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January 11, 2018, 08:11:26 AM
Bitcoin is really money it is like we are working on internet where we get profit from these gambling - trading - investment these three are good income if you really wanted to earn bitcoin maybe we should work hard for it. But since bitcoin is unstable price where bitcoin decrease fast we lose instant profit when we stocking coins. But it is okay it is part like paypal tho.
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January 11, 2018, 08:00:17 AM
+1 agreed.  It's a commodity that can be exchange for money


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January 11, 2018, 07:49:36 AM
I think bitcoin is becoming money, because you can use it as a coin (selling and buying stuff), but its price is always changing, so no, its not a coin (yet). Its value is working more like bonuses, where the real price of the stuff is just based in speculation. In the other hand, I think BTC is an active, a bonus, in a process to become money. But what is money? Historically, money is something with a value because there are not much, you can hold it, transform it, and trade with it, that's the reason because, for instance, salt was treated as coin for a long time in history.

The other kind of “historical money” was bartering, trading with stuff of use. But when coin appear in history, they were made by gold or silver or another material humanity decided to consider of value. So... is BTC money??? I think in a historical moment as the one we are living today, tech, is the new gold. There is a limited number of BTC in the world, it has value, you can trade with it... so, yeah!! BTC is becoming money. Just becoming... for now.

But it doesn't mean it's just money, yes it is money because it works like money, but bitcoin is a code, is a step in the evolution, is a block chain, is freedom, and is lot of things more... Not just money. 
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January 11, 2018, 12:40:41 AM
    Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

    We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads [mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

    My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

    Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

    Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:
    • 1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
    • 2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
    • 3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
    • 4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
    • 5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
    • 6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.
    [links omitted]
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    I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

    But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?






    Bitcoin is not really considered as a money but how it functions is it. We who knows what is it can term it as a money. It just that some would still call what is it. But right now it is a modern money.
    full member
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    January 11, 2018, 12:35:39 AM
    yes bitcoin is online money. There is a possibility of an online store to accept bitcoins for payment. There are a lot of bank bitcoins. Bitcoin is money for me. It is very useful and easy to use.
    Bitcoin is definitely a modern form of the money. Though most of the people who are buying in bitcoin are treating it as a good way of investing their money but apart from using bitcoin as a way of investing money, you can also treat it like money. The usage of bitcoin is not that much significant now-a-days but this will become normal in the near future. Bitcoin is and will be used as money.
    newbie
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    January 10, 2018, 03:09:36 PM
    That's all about money! Because now we have definition for crypto currency
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    January 10, 2018, 03:06:14 PM
    Well a lot of people would say yes. Bitcoin can be converted to fiat money and in some cases it can also be used as payment in some establishments. A lot of people became rich because of bitcoin and I really think it's really good to have bitcoin.
    sr. member
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    January 10, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
    Its like gold
    Your logic is fine. The Bitcoin is money at every time. Any person who is keeping Bitcoin is same like the real money in his hands with a high price. Because, whenever you need the currency, you simply sell your Bitcoin at high cost and get money with profit.  The demand of Bitcoin is too high in all over the world. The money we have that we use to pay for purchase of goods. The Bitcoin provides the same facilities to us with a fast and secure way.
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    January 09, 2018, 11:34:49 AM
      Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

      We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads [mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

      My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

      Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

      Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:
      • 1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
      • 2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
      • 3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
      • 4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
      • 5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
      • 6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.
      [links omitted]
      [/list]

      I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

      But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?






      Bitcoin is a money that can not be handled because it is a digital asset that is used by the internet but the bitcoin can be the money you can hold because the bitcoin value is worth the money and is replaced by the cryptoworld. But those with knowledge bitcoin is not so much that they do not know bitcoin can be a bit of money
      copper member
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      January 09, 2018, 11:09:11 AM
      Bitcoin is a digital money that can be used to transact anything.
      member
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      January 09, 2018, 10:59:42 AM
      yes bitcoin is online money. There is a possibility of an online store to accept bitcoins for payment. There are a lot of bank bitcoins. Bitcoin is money for me. It is very useful and easy to use.
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      January 09, 2018, 08:43:42 AM
        Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

        We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads [mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

        My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

        Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

        Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:
        • 1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
        • 2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
        • 3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
        • 4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
        • 5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
        • 6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.
        [links omitted]
        [/list]

        I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

        But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?






        On my own opinion l agree that bitcoin is money.Bitcoin produces money,it is bigger than any other description of cash. The good thing to bitcoin is higher than cash.Bitcoin has a volatile value so that you will get the best profit in bitcoin.
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        January 09, 2018, 08:19:55 AM
        Well in my opinion looking on how money is defined as any commodity that can be used as mode of payment in order to avail goods, services and as payment of debts bitcoin can be called money since it can be used on latter purposes stated. As of now, use of bitcoins in financial activities are only limited and not all peopleor institution is accepting bitcoins like money then I could say it still a reason not to call bitcoins money unless it is already acceted by all.
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        January 09, 2018, 07:44:13 AM
        Yes, it is the same with money which can be used to purchased something, it can alter into fiat currency and could also be a good source of income, by simply holding it and wait for the right time to pumps up its value:)
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        January 09, 2018, 07:29:41 AM
          Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

          We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads [mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

          My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

          Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

          Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:
          • 1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
          • 2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
          • 3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
          • 4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
          • 5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
          • 6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.
          [links omitted]
          [/list]

          I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

          But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?






          I think this is a certain kind of money.
          It has some signs of money. Bitcoin can be used for payment, but it is not recognized by the majority

          Not everyone recognizes Bitcoin among them for the inland people who are difficult to access the Internet network.
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          January 09, 2018, 07:28:16 AM
          For me, Bitcoin is not a money, it is a virtual currency. It doesn’t exist in the kind of physical form that the currency & coin we’re used to exist in. It doesn’t even exist in a form as physical as money.

          But consider how much cash you personally handle. You get a paycheck that you take to the bank or it’s autodeposited without you even seeing the paper that it’s not printed on. In short, Bitcoin is a global currency, which is traded person to person without any need for a bank in the middle.
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          January 09, 2018, 06:55:18 AM
            Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

            We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads [mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

            My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

            Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

            Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:
            • 1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
            • 2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
            • 3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
            • 4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
            • 5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
            • 6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.
            [links omitted]
            [/list]

            I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

            But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?






            I think this is a certain kind of money.
            It has some signs of money. Bitcoin can be used for payment, but it is not recognized by the majority
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            January 09, 2018, 06:47:54 AM
            Bitcoin is a digital currency or even you can think about it as an asset because of the fluctuation in its price according to its demand in the market.
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            January 09, 2018, 06:39:27 AM

            I agree too that bitcoin is like money nowadays.

            Many of us are already calculating with this tool and me too.
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            January 09, 2018, 06:26:39 AM
              Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

              We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads [mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

              My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

              Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

              Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:
              • 1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
              • 2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
              • 3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
              • 4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
              • 5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
              • 6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.
              [links omitted]
              [/list]

              I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

              But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?





              Yes!bitcoin is also a money.in other countries this kind of currency was already been used to any transactions and transportations anyway.and we here in the Philippines bitcoin is money also because bitcoin can transfer to our own currency as peso.thats why I can says that bitcoin is a money.
              I agree with you in my country you can already pay with bitcoins and order a pizza at home or even book plane tickets to somewhere and pay that with your bitcoins i believe we are getting closer and closer to a world with bitcoins.
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