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Topic: Is bitcoin more likely to rise about $1,000 or go and stay below $500? (Read 3556 times)

legendary
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Run me through the psychology of that?

The psychology of Liar walls?

To affect investor psychology of course. At the time I made my previous post, Bitcoin was at $650? Perhaps if a holder of Bitcoin were stupid enough to trust the huge Bid wall, he would look at the thousands of BTC of orders standing in between the then current $650 and a mere $20 - $30 drop and think that he was safe and that he didn't need to sell. He may then look at the comparatively shallow Ask wall, and think, "gee, with all this buying interest piling up I had better get me some $650 Bitcoin whilst I still can".

Now that we are at $590, and probably much lower by the time you read this, perhaps you can see why an investor shouldn't place too much faith in what the Bid/Ask wall is telling him about the market conditions.

These walls need not be 'liar walls' as such, they may be genuine in that there are forces out there with much more to lose than the nominal value of thier crypto holdings if Bitcoin goes dramatically down. There might be huge sums of money being put into these walls that will really stand and absorb any dump that comes it's way, without attempting to immediately liquidate at the next best opportunity that comes along. But the fact that we have this one bullish indicator (the huge Bid volume across all exchanges), in amongst a shit-storm of bearish indicators and sentiment, should tell you not to make any Bitcoin decision based on what the Wall is telling you.

Ok, misunderstood what you were saying (or, at least, the exact way in which you were being facetious).
Bid walls aren't a reliable indicator that the market is going to do the opposite of what they suggest on the surface of it - they're an apparent indicator that isn't reliable in any sense? Of course, if there were any really reliable indicators, the market would take that into account and do something different...
Makes me wish I hadn't sold my house and bought at $640 though.
hero member
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Run me through the psychology of that?

The psychology of Liar walls?

To affect investor psychology of course. At the time I made my previous post, Bitcoin was at $650? Perhaps if a holder of Bitcoin were stupid enough to trust the huge Bid wall, he would look at the thousands of BTC of orders standing in between the then current $650 and a mere $20 - $30 drop and think that he was safe and that he didn't need to sell. He may then look at the comparatively shallow Ask wall, and think, "gee, with all this buying interest piling up I had better get me some $650 Bitcoin whilst I still can".

Now that we are at $590, and probably much lower by the time you read this, perhaps you can see why an investor shouldn't place too much faith in what the Bid/Ask wall is telling him about the market conditions.

These walls need not be 'liar walls' as such, they may be genuine in that there are forces out there with much more to lose than the nominal value of thier crypto holdings if Bitcoin goes dramatically down. There might be huge sums of money being put into these walls that will really stand and absorb any dump that comes it's way, without attempting to immediately liquidate at the next best opportunity that comes along. But the fact that we have this one bullish indicator (the huge Bid volume across all exchanges), in amongst a shit-storm of bearish indicators and sentiment, should tell you not to make any Bitcoin decision based on what the Wall is telling you.
sr. member
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Time goes more slowly when you spend so much time in front of the computer waiting for the price to rise. This mini-crisis has only been around for about a week. Right now, even though pushing the low 600's USD, I see the bottom end just about where it is now, and hopefully it will push up again to the upper 600's in a day or so. I don't see it breaking 700 in the next few days, but give it 2-3 weeks I see a very good chance of 800 again. That should get the ball rolling. Tough times require patience. As for the long term, it would be nice to see a steady rise, maybe $1100 by May 1? I wouldn't bet on it though, not until we see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

457 usd at gox !!!
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Time goes more slowly when you spend so much time in front of the computer waiting for the price to rise. This mini-crisis has only been around for about a week. Right now, even though pushing the low 600's USD, I see the bottom end just about where it is now, and hopefully it will push up again to the upper 600's in a day or so. I don't see it breaking 700 in the next few days, but give it 2-3 weeks I see a very good chance of 800 again. That should get the ball rolling. Tough times require patience. As for the long term, it would be nice to see a steady rise, maybe $1100 by May 1? I wouldn't bet on it though, not until we see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
legendary
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Run me through the psychology of that?

MatTheCat has a point about the wall of buyers stacked up - though looking back there are suddenly more sellers on the other side now, too.

I was indeed only being 'facetious'.

When the market is stationary relative to the mass of buy and sell orders, trust the Bid/Ask walls like you would trust a fox to guard a chicken coop.


sr. member
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I think Matt was being facetious.
Heh, yeah, when isn't he? Tongue
hero member
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MatTheCat has a point about the wall of buyers stacked up - though looking back there are suddenly more sellers on the other side now, too.

I was indeed only being 'facetious'.

When the market is stationary relative to the mass of buy and sell orders, trust the Bid/Ask walls like you would trust a fox to guard a chicken coop.

legendary
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I think Matt was being facetious.
legendary
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MatTheCat has a point about the wall of buyers stacked up - though looking back there are suddenly more sellers on the other side now, too.
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I reckon it will go to around 500, but not necessarily under and then hang round there for a while before rising to 800 ish.
legendary
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What is more likely looking at the chart and current news? I say down so that probably means up since I'm wrong more than I'm right. Good thing I have miners making me btc and doge to cover my fuck ups.
Everyone is looking to pick up cheap coins which means it probably won't happen. Major crashes seem to happen when most don't expect it. I'm still betting it will drop this weekend though.
legendary
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Something's about to happen, one way or another. Last time this happened it dumped $250 and then bounced back to $700. I'll probably miss it laughing at the bear though.
hero member
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I would also add that the fact that we have spent almost 2 days in the mid 600s is a clear indication of a strong bottom that should never be breached again in the next decade  Cheesy

Ah, but can you back up this thesis with a chart, with coloured lines drawn on in Windows Paint?
hero member
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I came to this thread looking for some insight as to what the extremely narrow range of trading today might mean (virtually static market often heralds big move in my opinion).
But this is SO MUCH BETTER.

The narrow trading range represents sellers refusing to meet such outrageously low Bitcoin prices, thus Bitcoin is consolidating and preparing itself for a HUGGGEEEE bullish break-out!

Check out the Bid wall on Stamp. An absolute mountain of buyers piled up there in volumes never seen before. No point then in trying to get low priced buy-ins in amongst that lot. The only way you can be assured of cheap Bitcoins at these prices ever again is clearly to pile in at the bottom/front of the Bid Wall now!

Go, do it, before its too late!

Please?

Pretty Please?

With fucking sugar on top?
legendary
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childish beartroll rant

Best. Post. Ever.

All the bulltards who now say 'only idiots buy at the top', were the very same ones who were pumping btc like no tomorrow at $1000+. Fucking peices of dogshit.

Sigh. Permabears. Not the brightest.



They sure can be a bunch of wankers though.



 Grin

I came to this thread looking for some insight as to what the extremely narrow range of trading today might mean (virtually static market often heralds big move in my opinion).
But this is SO MUCH BETTER.
hero member
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@Edward50

You watched price go from $2 to $1242 but somehow LOST money

you can't talk

from dec 2013 year, the price reverse flow, from 1242 to 2 usd

Confirmed!
sr. member
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@Edward50

You watched price go from $2 to $1242 but somehow LOST money

you can't talk

from dec 2013 year, the price reverse flow, from 1242 to 2 usd
legendary
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@Edward50

You watched price go from $2 to $1242 but somehow LOST money

you can't talk
hero member
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Silly noobs who bought at the peak don't hold enough coins to bitchslap anyone.

U absolute despicable cunt!

You more than anyone have been cheer-leading Bitcoin at the top of the market, telling everyone to buy, telling everyone how you were going to buy, calling bear traps etc etc. Unfortunately for such a junk food addled Bitcoin Nutter retard, you leave an absolute Autobahn sized trail of evidence behind you, proving what a absolute clueless fuckwit you are.

I have taken a little look through your post history and have to say I found an embarrassment of riches (for anyone who interested in humiliating one of the worst Bull-tards on the whole forum).

Take a look folks and if you like these, believe me, there is much more where that came from:

This is The Great Crash!

I WAS RIGHT!!!

Yep, crashed right back up to 1230+  LOL

Oh noes.

We almost lost 3 days worth of gains.

The sky is falling.

Enjoy your picnic little teddy bears.

LOL

Last chance to buy under $1000.

Don't miss out.

edit- too late

How long before the next feeble attempt to push the Gox price under $700?

Lots of money has been wasted by somebody trying to do that without success via market sells when they could have just placed asks and waited for them to be filled.

Why's everybody so surprised?

We've had lots more market dumps of a similar size in the last few days.

It was just a matter of time.

This whole crash was bogus.

Perhaps I should have said bear trap.

Don't be ridiculous.

Selling now would be foolish.

LOLOLOL

Missed your chance to buy cheap? Too bad kid . Some day you'll learn.

LOLOLOL

Of course the flip side to that is that the move down to 576 was a bear trap which has finally been sprung.

956 wall eaten. Nomnom.

Congratulations. You are probably the most consistently wrong poster on this forum Since Dec 2013. If I were you, I wouldn't have the face to keep spouting so much shite when you clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Best. Post. Ever.

All the bulltards who now say 'only idiots buy at the top', were the very same ones who were pumping btc like no tomorrow at $1000+. Fucking peices of dogshit.

LOL, OWNED

These Bitcoin cheerleerders will never stop. They also sit on here and try to immediately and undermine anyone who posts anything they consider negative.


I just say to them, why do you not just sell your bitcoins if you're going to waste all that time trying to mislead people into buying.
legendary
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I don't see it going above $1000 anytime soon (i.e. this year). If it does it'll quickly get bitchslapped down by people like me who are still trying to offload stupidly expensive coins bought during, um, more optimistic times.

Silly noobs who bought at the peak don't hold enough coins to bitchslap anyone.
Number 1 positive about a crash to zero: fuckheads like you don't get to be bazillionaires.
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