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October 15, 2017, 06:44:39 PM
#29
I don't think the price hike is due to BTG the price has been increasing early up this year and there might be some drops and fluctuations but its not about any upcoming fork I think bitcoin just need to adjust its value in preparation for the increasing demand
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October 15, 2017, 03:45:37 PM
#28
I do not believe this rally is all because of BTG. That fork is weak and a joke, it is also more rushed than Segwit2x. Who are the developers behind it? All we know is it was started by an Asic manufacturer from Hong Kong.

I also cannot access their website, http://btcgpu.org/


So far this fork seems really weak as compare to the last one and it will not going to effect price negatively. Price is still on the top and fluctuating between $5500 to $5800 which is indeed a positive sign. The hype created for the fork was just to scare, it will be a flop show i guess.
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October 15, 2017, 03:44:47 PM
#27
There is a big probality that it is the reason the price of Bitcoin is surging. There is nothing to lose when they bought some Bitcoin. There was no bad effect even what negative Jamie Dimon posted lately about Bitcoin.
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October 15, 2017, 03:30:56 PM
#26
I think that there will be an increase in unnecessary legislation soon to follow.  Probably more focused on "Blockchain based assets" rather than specific coins.  Governments around the world will want their taxed share.  Will this drive the price up or down?  Answer is yes.    
The recent rally on the price of bitcoin might be the direct result of the forking coming up and the possibility to earn some extra coins if you are keeping your bitcoins in a private wallet. I am not sure what you meant by unnecessary legislation could drag the price down,i have seen many rallies in the past and after a certain point any FUD news could make the difference and could drag the price crazy.
True,even op would say that he wont believe that this rally isnt been cause by Bitcoin Gold. I would really say that it does really give some effects  and as you said any news regarding on bitcoin would really make a difference on the price.We sometimes see this price rally as a bubble but yet we cant be sure if price would dip down again after the fork. 2 forks would really happen on this month and the next month.For now the best thing to do is accumulate bitcoin as much as can to earn those free coins again just like we did on Bitcoin cash.
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October 15, 2017, 02:55:45 PM
#25
I do not believe this rally is all because of BTG. That fork is weak and a joke, it is also more rushed than Segwit2x. Who are the developers behind it? All we know is it was started by an Asic manufacturer from Hong Kong.

I also cannot access their website, http://btcgpu.org/


Wtf... Are you telling me that people are going crazy after bitcoin gold without even knowing anything, that's heights of being an immature person. Knowingly or accidentally this has caused bitcoin's price to go up and break yet another record and I am happy with it. But such a craze on bitcoin gold is unnecessary I guess.
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October 15, 2017, 02:44:48 PM
#24
Yes bitcoin price is incresing due the upcoming fork and coin spliting from bitcoin. I know we all people really worry about the price dip after the novmber 25th. we may not sure price bump up in the bitcoin then how you can say BTG's rate.

Today almost 200 usd downfall in the price chart. by dumbing the coin whales may invest on the bitcoin and buy it for cheap price.
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October 15, 2017, 05:49:43 AM
#23
If this coindesk article is to be believed, the recent rally is due to the upcoming forks:

https://www.coindesk.com/logical-not-bitcoins-coming-fork-boosting-price/

If this really is due to the bitcoin gold fork, it will be interesting to see what happens afterward (if the fork happens).  You might think that BTC will selloff, but if everyone is trying to get BTG so they can dump it to get more BTC, that might actually make BTC rally further.
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October 14, 2017, 04:50:34 PM
#22
I think that there will be an increase in unnecessary legislation soon to follow.  Probably more focused on "Blockchain based assets" rather than specific coins.  Governments around the world will want their taxed share.  Will this drive the price up or down?  Answer is yes.    
The recent rally on the price of bitcoin might be the direct result of the forking coming up and the possibility to earn some extra coins if you are keeping your bitcoins in a private wallet. I am not sure what you meant by unnecessary legislation could drag the price down,i have seen many rallies in the past and after a certain point any FUD news could make the difference and could drag the price crazy.
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October 14, 2017, 12:53:43 PM
#21
It is very likely that this price up is at least partly due to new coin BitcoinGold,people still have fresh memories on last fork and BitcoinCash who make nice profit for them.Nobody wants to miss the possibility for new profits and trying to accumulate as much as possible.

It is difficult to say is this the only reason why we are so close to 6000$,but demand for BTC is big,more buying then selling is always causing price increase.Probably we will see correction after hard fork is finished,it is always been like that-after pump always come dump.
The fact of the matter is that I probably will use the reality of the same case as it was with the next fork, when practically I got new coins in my wallet while doing nothing. I think that Bitcoin's new double will be no worse than my predecessor ..
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October 14, 2017, 11:44:55 AM
#20
There is bitcoin gold, segwit2x and also the fact that september ended without any further bad news from China, all of this combined plus some others will have an effect on the price.
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October 14, 2017, 11:43:14 AM
#19
It is very likely that this price up is at least partly due to new coin BitcoinGold,people still have fresh memories on last fork and BitcoinCash who make nice profit for them.Nobody wants to miss the possibility for new profits and trying to accumulate as much as possible.

It is difficult to say is this the only reason why we are so close to 6000$,but demand for BTC is big,more buying then selling is always causing price increase.Probably we will see correction after hard fork is finished,it is always been like that-after pump always come dump.
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October 14, 2017, 11:41:10 AM
#18
I do not believe this rally is all because of BTG. That fork is weak and a joke, it is also more rushed than Segwit2x. Who are the developers behind it? All we know is it was started by an Asic manufacturer from Hong Kong.

I also cannot access their website, http://btcgpu.org/


Well, I'm afraid to tell you that the bitcoin rally happened because of the up coming BTCG fork. Although, some people believe the fork is all a joke, some believe that the group involve are not serious or something and some don't want to miss the chance of getting free 11.1BTCG out of 10.25BTC.
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October 14, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
#17
Perhaps is both because of the bitcoingold and segwit2x fork.

As you say, probably those forks are not too serious, but the forked coin will have some value anyway. Where does that value come from if not from Bitcoin itself? It is as like some people are buying Bitcoin just to get some forked coins for free.

sr. member
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October 14, 2017, 09:52:55 AM
#16
I do not believe this rally is all because of BTG. That fork is weak and a joke, it is also more rushed than Segwit2x. Who are the developers behind it? All we know is it was started by an Asic manufacturer from Hong Kong.

I also cannot access their website, http://btcgpu.org/


You still got a point there but the recent drops of other popular altcoins might trigger and support the assumption that this price rally is because of bitcoin gold. We still cannot even conclude that bitcoin gold is not yet know by the bitcoin investors(some of them might not know it but every person that has some interests in bitcoin researched about it before  investing on it.)
legendary
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October 14, 2017, 09:36:51 AM
#15
I do not believe this rally is all because of BTG. That fork is weak and a joke, it is also more rushed than Segwit2x. Who are the developers behind it? All we know is it was started by an Asic manufacturer from Hong Kong.

I also cannot access their website, http://btcgpu.org/

Of course it is not. The Bitcoin Gold operators are just trying to portray themselves as an alternative to Bitcoin. But they are trying to gloss over the fact that there is a premine and they did attempt an ICO before. Bitcoin Cash was a reasonably successful fork and now others are trying to get into the act.
legendary
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October 14, 2017, 01:25:29 AM
#14
On last night's daily markets thread on the bitcoinmarkets subreddit, someone pointed out that the surge to nearly $6000 came because of a China rumour:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/75ukuy/daily_discussion_thursday_october_12_2017/doapq4e/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-12/bitcoin-explodes-5600-30-end-chinas-golden-week-holiday

It's the classic FUD stuff that Charles Lee warned about, and is likely to be false, but trigger happy traders still bought at the top!

It's hilarious to see China banning all exchanges, then only to find out weeks later that China is supposedly still driving up massive amounts of volume. The guys at PBOC must be kicking themselves, and im assuming that this is not al part of a conspiracy where they always knew they would eventually lift the ban and enjoy the gains (since they would have bought the dip heavily OTC while their citizens weren't allowed to do so).

Im actually pretty sure something along the lines is happening. Im damn sure throught 2018 if not before, Chinese citizens will be able to trade again and the price will keep going even higher due these news.

The PBOC will have to act more decisively sooner or later or they risk making it look like that the Chinese government does not have control of financial regulations in their country. But that is what Bitcoin is there for, to disrupt everything.

also don't forget that most people don't even know about BTG fork yet. when you say upcoming fork they think it is the 2x fork. the BTG website is not even ready yet! how can people even know about it Cheesy

I agree. I believe BTG is a scam. The main idea of changing the mining algorithm was stolen from Lukejr.

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October 13, 2017, 03:01:12 PM
#13
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2. Except for LTC, which seems to be an anomaly, almost all of the other cryptos are down double-digit percentages.  This suggests that a lot of people are dumping other cryptos to buy bitcoin.  This is a big change from earlier this year when everything was going up together.  This demand for bitcoin only makes me wonder if people aren't starting to hoard for extra forked coins.

My guess is that when BTC started to surge earlier this year, it simply awakened the alt coins from their long bear market slumber as well. Regained trust in BTC made it easier to trust alts again, new money entered the market and pumpers took care of the rest. And then of course, there was the ICO boom.

Now the hype around ICOs has mostly subsided, BTC successfully defended its #1 spot and I guess trust in alts is not as strong as in BTC, making it harder for alts to sustain their price level.
legendary
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October 13, 2017, 12:41:31 PM
#12
On last night's daily markets thread on the bitcoinmarkets subreddit, someone pointed out that the surge to nearly $6000 came because of a China rumour:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/75ukuy/daily_discussion_thursday_october_12_2017/doapq4e/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-12/bitcoin-explodes-5600-30-end-chinas-golden-week-holiday

It's the classic FUD stuff that Charles Lee warned about, and is likely to be false, but trigger happy traders still bought at the top!

It's hilarious to see China banning all exchanges, then only to find out weeks later that China is supposedly still driving up massive amounts of volume. The guys at PBOC must be kicking themselves, and im assuming that this is not al part of a conspiracy where they always knew they would eventually lift the ban and enjoy the gains (since they would have bought the dip heavily OTC while their citizens weren't allowed to do so).

Im actually pretty sure something along the lines is happening. Im damn sure throught 2018 if not before, Chinese citizens will be able to trade again and the price will keep going even higher due these news.
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October 13, 2017, 11:10:25 AM
#11
On last night's daily markets thread on the bitcoinmarkets subreddit, someone pointed out that the surge to nearly $6000 came because of a China rumour:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/75ukuy/daily_discussion_thursday_october_12_2017/doapq4e/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-12/bitcoin-explodes-5600-30-end-chinas-golden-week-holiday

It's the classic FUD stuff that Charles Lee warned about, and is likely to be false, but trigger happy traders still bought at the top!
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October 13, 2017, 10:37:34 AM
#10

1. As I said above, I would expect follow-through on a break to new highs.  But ~$1k in 24 hours, which is about a 20% increase, is a lot, even for bitcoin.  I think the break of the previous $1100 high was part of a move that was only about a 10% increase.  This makes me think it's more than just a break of the previous ATH.

2. Except for LTC, which seems to be an anomaly, almost all of the other cryptos are down double-digit percentages.  This suggests that a lot of people are dumping other cryptos to buy bitcoin.  This is a big change from earlier this year when everything was going up together.  This demand for bitcoin only makes me wonder if people aren't starting to hoard for extra forked coins.

I believe that people are buying more Bitcoin because they want to have more Bitcoin Gold and this fact can be verified right now. Well, this can be one of the many factors for the sudden rise of Bitcoin beyond the $5,000 level. When things would ebb, Bitcoin can be back at the $5,500 point while waiting for factors to push it beyond the $6,000 mark. As always, there would be some small corrections and we are already seeing it now.
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