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Topic: Is Bitcoin's rally really about BTG? - page 2. (Read 897 times)

legendary
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October 13, 2017, 09:50:47 AM
#9
Right now, I'm not exactly sure what to think of the surge to ~$5800.  These are the points I see in favor of it not being related to upcoming forks:

1. There has to be some newfound confidence in the market that we've gotten past China's issues.

2. You usually see some follow-through in a strong move that breaks to new highs.

3. Bouncing off $3k so quickly probably left a lot of traders hoping to get in (or get back in) around $3k.  And if they've been waiting for another drop to that level, the break of $4500 confirmed that that probably won't happen (any time soon, at least), which may be leading to a lot of panic buying.

But there are some things that make me wonder if upcoming forks may be playing a significant role:

1. As I said above, I would expect follow-through on a break to new highs.  But ~$1k in 24 hours, which is about a 20% increase, is a lot, even for bitcoin.  I think the break of the previous $1100 high was part of a move that was only about a 10% increase.  This makes me think it's more than just a break of the previous ATH.

2. Except for LTC, which seems to be an anomaly, almost all of the other cryptos are down double-digit percentages.  This suggests that a lot of people are dumping other cryptos to buy bitcoin.  This is a big change from earlier this year when everything was going up together.  This demand for bitcoin only makes me wonder if people aren't starting to hoard for extra forked coins.

Im still trying to figure out why LTC is going up after segwit was also enabled on BTC. What distinguishes LTC from BTC anymore, other than their software is outdate because they are several Core versions backwards?

But anyway, if you look at the graph, LTC is not going up against BTC, only against the USD, and I want to increase my BTC, not USD.
Not a single coin seems to be going up against BTC anymore.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/litecoin/
legendary
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October 13, 2017, 07:34:10 AM
#8
It's definitely possible, but I find it quite hard to believe due to the intensity of current increase. It would only be a justifiable action to buy up this market in the runup to the Bitcoin Gold chain split, if the entities doing so have a strong believe in the value of the split coins. If the price of the split coins will more or less behave the same as Bitcoin Cash did in all aspects, it will turn out to be a worthwile event, but I find it hard to believe, unless there are whales involved lifting this market up to eventually unload their bags on dumb and delusional people.

That's why I said that I'm a little bit worried with all the price hike specially when it started to break the $5000 barrier. I can't fathom who are behind this sudden pump, I'm asking the same questions. Are whalers really doing this for the market, or are they really for the those free coins? The current increase was unbelievable and even touches $6000 for a moment, then correction ensued. The Bitcoin Gold split is 12 days to go, are we expecting $6500 prior to the fork? Its really hard to understand the current predicament but one this is for sure, whales are not that dumb. I think if there is a unload it should happened after the fork and not prior. Well, I may be wrong. Let's see thing as they prosper in the coming days and look if this event is sustainable in the long run.
legendary
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Merit: 1427
October 13, 2017, 07:25:52 AM
#7
It's definitely possible, but I find it quite hard to believe due to the intensity of current increase. It would only be a justifiable action to buy up this market in the runup to the Bitcoin Gold chain split, if the entities doing so have a strong believe in the value of the split coins. If the price of the split coins will more or less behave the same as Bitcoin Cash did in all aspects, it will turn out to be a worthwile event, but I find it hard to believe, unless there are whales involved lifting this market up to eventually unload their bags on dumb and delusional people.
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 13, 2017, 07:19:16 AM
#6
I think that there will be an increase in unnecessary legislation soon to follow.  Probably more focused on "Blockchain based assets" rather than specific coins.  Governments around the world will want their taxed share.  Will this drive the price up or down?  Answer is yes.    
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 1169
October 13, 2017, 07:14:35 AM
#5
I really think it is because of the BTG hype and not because of BTG it is just a hype because of the recent Fork all bitcoin user might want to get free Coins just like what happen with bitcoin cash, I really never expect much in bitcoin gold but the hype is real, or it is because of the fake news that is why there are so much hype involve.
member
Activity: 69
Merit: 10
October 13, 2017, 06:29:36 AM
#4
I think the fact that BTC broke $5000 + the forks is what is driving the price up so high. $5000 was a major barrier. FOMO is what drives it high.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
October 13, 2017, 06:18:30 AM
#3
Right now, I'm not exactly sure what to think of the surge to ~$5800.  These are the points I see in favor of it not being related to upcoming forks:

1. There has to be some newfound confidence in the market that we've gotten past China's issues.

2. You usually see some follow-through in a strong move that breaks to new highs.

3. Bouncing off $3k so quickly probably left a lot of traders hoping to get in (or get back in) around $3k.  And if they've been waiting for another drop to that level, the break of $4500 confirmed that that probably won't happen (any time soon, at least), which may be leading to a lot of panic buying.

But there are some things that make me wonder if upcoming forks may be playing a significant role:

1. As I said above, I would expect follow-through on a break to new highs.  But ~$1k in 24 hours, which is about a 20% increase, is a lot, even for bitcoin.  I think the break of the previous $1100 high was part of a move that was only about a 10% increase.  This makes me think it's more than just a break of the previous ATH.

2. Except for LTC, which seems to be an anomaly, almost all of the other cryptos are down double-digit percentages.  This suggests that a lot of people are dumping other cryptos to buy bitcoin.  This is a big change from earlier this year when everything was going up together.  This demand for bitcoin only makes me wonder if people aren't starting to hoard for extra forked coins.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1163
Where is my ring of blades...
October 13, 2017, 03:46:51 AM
#2
whenever there is a downtime like the past month and price takes a huge dive because of a popular FUD, we always have a big rise afterwards. you can look at the charts to see this pattern clearly after each big dip.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1784749.0;all

although I am not denying the fact that Bitcoin Gold airdrop/fork must have been effective in this rise but I do believe that the dip-effect is the dominant one here.

also don't forget that most people don't even know about BTG fork yet. when you say upcoming fork they think it is the 2x fork. the BTG website is not even ready yet! how can people even know about it Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1823
October 13, 2017, 01:50:44 AM
#1
I do not believe this rally is all because of BTG. That fork is weak and a joke, it is also more rushed than Segwit2x. Who are the developers behind it? All we know is it was started by an Asic manufacturer from Hong Kong.

I also cannot access their website, http://btcgpu.org/

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