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Quote from: PX-Z on June 04, 2023, 05:22:43 PM

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Unless it was publicly announced on their ann thread which make it impossible because the owner was already arrested.

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There's a federal warrant for Minh Quốc Nguyễn's arrest but I haven't seen any news about him being caught.

This. With those available information, i only assumed he is already in custody of the authorities. Although there's no public news that he was arrested because its not necessary imo.

The authorities will always announce if they caught criminals that have warrants, no updates mean he is still at large, and they have no reason not to publish his arrest, his arrest will put a stop to speculation that he is coming up with another mixer or he is being protected.
Chipmixer's shutdown is a piece of big media news and his arrest will also become bigger news, right now he is good at hiding I think he has an escape plan if ever things got worse.

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Quote from: PX-Z on June 04, 2023, 09:08:15 PM

What i mean is the announcement, most cases of mixers that was shutdown wasn't publicized ^{(i guess)} since i didnt find one. Well, it has a point, and if that's the case, i'll alter what i said.

Depends on how the mixer was shutdown.

Voluntary shutdown? - Some times they announce their shutdowns like coinmixer.se, Bitmixer.io, BitBlender.io

Exit scam? - They always go quietly, perfect example was Smartmixer.io

Shutdown by authorities? Obviously authorities have to announce about the Seizure and if by any chance they arrest the person behind the mixer, they will proudly announce about his arrest. I don't think they would go quiet on that one.

It also depends on the extent of investigations in each case. It is not in the interest to disclose the achievements of the authorities if this does not serve the progress of the research if the case is still open, especially if there are more than one accused and there are still some of them who have not been arrested yet. In certain cases, the announcement of the arrest of one or more suspects is in the context of the investigations themselves, i.e. to serve one of the objectives of the investigations.
With regard to closed cases, the authorities will certainly proudly announce their victories, and this is their duty anyway to clarify the picture for public opinion.

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Quote from: PX-Z on June 04, 2023, 09:08:15 PM

What i mean is the announcement, most cases of mixers that was shutdown wasn't publicized ^{(i guess)} since i didnt find one. Well, it has a point, and if that's the case, i'll alter what i said.

Depends on how the mixer was shutdown.

Voluntary shutdown? - Some times they announce their shutdowns like coinmixer.se, Bitmixer.io, BitBlender.io

Exit scam? - They always go quietly, perfect example was Smartmixer.io

Shutdown by authorities? Obviously authorities have to announce about the Seizure and if by any chance they arrest the person behind the mixer, they will proudly announce about his arrest. I don't think they would go quiet on that one.

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Quote from: coupable on June 04, 2023, 08:59:10 PM

Do you mean that it is not necessary to arrest him or is it not necessary to announce this in case it happened?
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But if he is the main suspect and his arrest will close the file, then I think that the authorities will consider it necessary to announce this in order for this to be added to their record of successes and to serve as an example to others.

What i mean is the announcement, most cases of mixers that was shutdown wasn't publicized ^{(i guess)} since i didnt find one. Well, it has a point, and if that's the case, i'll alter what i said.

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Quote from: PX-Z on June 04, 2023, 05:22:43 PM

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Quote from: PX-Z on June 03, 2023, 05:50:42 PM

Unless it was publicly announced on their ann thread which make it impossible because the owner was already arrested.

source?

There's a federal warrant for Minh Quốc Nguyễn's arrest but I haven't seen any news about him being caught.

This. With those available information, i only assumed he is already in custody of the authorities. Although there's no public news that he was arrested because its not necessary imo.

Do you mean that it is not necessary to arrest him or is it not necessary to announce this in case it happened?
I think that the authorities are really interested in his arrest and the necessity of announcing this if his arrest proves the guilt and stops the investigations. This means that if the announcement of his arrest hinders investigations regarding the involvement of other parties, for example, then this will certainly be postponed. But if he is the main suspect and his arrest will close the file, then I think that the authorities will consider it necessary to announce this in order for this to be added to their record of successes and to serve as an example to others.

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Quote from: EFS on June 04, 2023, 04:55:27 PM

Quote from: LeGaulois on June 04, 2023, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: PX-Z on June 03, 2023, 05:50:42 PM

Unless it was publicly announced on their ann thread which make it impossible because the owner was already arrested.

source?

There's a federal warrant for Minh Quốc Nguyễn's arrest but I haven't seen any news about him being caught.

This. With those available information, i only assumed he is already in custody of the authorities. Although there's no public news that he was arrested because its not necessary imo.

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We've seen too many of this type of phishing attempt in the past. Generally speaking I wouldn't trust any new mixer site claiming to be back in business, even if it had previous owners.

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Quote from: PX-Z on June 03, 2023, 05:50:42 PM

Unless it was publicly announced on their ann thread which make it impossible because the owner was already arrested.

source?

There's a federal warrant for Minh Quốc Nguyễn's arrest but I haven't seen any news about him being caught. Even if he wasn't caught, I'm sure he wouldn't be doing something like this again.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on May 01, 2023, 05:19:08 PM

ChipMixer.be is a scam to avoid

- The domain name has been created just yesterday, Apr 30 2023 (while we all know about the real Chipmixer site)
- They claim their bitcointalk account is @Chipmixer (while we all know it's not true)
- The scammer is the same behind other scams such as anonymix-btc.com, smartbitmix-btc.com, bitcoinlaundry.net, blennder.net

Onion address V3:
chipmixjojzkyqj32ih5njuayhzyzb7uoecq7rexnse24lb2hrdtyzid.onion
Easy way to remember: Chip Mix Or Fly they say.

I see Chip Mix Joj Zky
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Quote from: PX-Z on June 03, 2023, 05:50:42 PM

Unless it was publicly announced on their ann thread which make it impossible because the owner was already arrested.

source?

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on June 04, 2023, 08:04:08 AM

Quote from: rby on June 04, 2023, 07:58:38 AM

In the case that ChipMixer is cleared of the allegations against them, they will likely re-start with a new domain, unless FBI and other regulatory bodies involved in the seizure of the site will make a public notice about the case which I know they cannot.

ChipMixer can't get back to business, unless they log in, clarify us what has happened, and cover the damages of their clients. And something tells me they won't, especially given that the operator is known now more.

These are statements of truth but I have an excerpt from the last paragraph of your posts..."clarify us what has happened, and cover the damages of their clients"
ChipMixer was the most popular mixer known in Bitcointalk, but considering how popular they were, we didn't see cases of clients complaining of loses. I particularly didn't see, maybe I saw 1 but I cannot actually tell if my memory is failing me.

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Obvious scam. ChipMixer is shut down, gone for good. We haven't heard of them since that incident with the FBI. Last time logged in: March 14, 2023, 03:14:42 AM. I'm pretty sure they'd have given some signs if they were back in business.

Quote from: rby on June 04, 2023, 07:58:38 AM

In the case that ChipMixer is cleared of the allegations against them, they will likely re-start with a new domain, unless FBI and other regulatory bodies involved in the seizure of the site will make a public notice about the case which I know they cannot.

ChipMixer can't get back to business, unless they log in, clarify us what has happened, and cover the damages of their clients. And something tells me they won't, especially given that the operator is known now more.

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Quote from: Edwardard on June 04, 2023, 07:53:12 AM

Brand new account posting a link to fake phishing site in the name of asking query about a seized mixer service? You dont seem to be a newbie. You already know much about things and this type of tactic already gives me a doubt that you are promoting a scam instead of asking a doubt here.

There's actually nothing to worry about. There's something with brands, when a particular brand is flagged, everything including name or activities involving the brand is also flagged.
There's actually nothing on the internet today which has a prefix or suffix of ChipMixer that is legit.

In the case that ChipMixer is cleared of the allegations against them, they will likely re-start with a new domain, unless FBI and other regulatory bodies involved in the seizure of the site will make a public notice about the case which I know they cannot.

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Brand new account posting a link to fake phishing site in the name of asking query about a seized mixer service? You dont seem to be a newbie. You already know much about things and this type of tactic already gives me a doubt that you are promoting a scam instead of asking a doubt here.

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Scammers are cloning it because there's a big opportunity to make money, Chipmixer still had loyal customers they could assume that its one of the domains owned by Chipmixer and they are back in business in mixing, so those who are not reading updates and not good on how to check the right domain to a clone, they are going to lose money.

There are other mixers that people can use, Chipmixer did not create a hole in the mixing business when it was seized in fact many developers take this opportunity to create a platform that will fill Chipmixer's service.

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Quote from: new19980 on June 03, 2023, 07:44:07 AM

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is btc mixer chipmixer .be legit or fake since i heard that original chipmixer .com seized by FBI

There is a thing you have to learn, when website gets seized or hacked, just remember that you shouldn't trust this website or any name associated with it anymore! Chipmixer has been seized, that means, just forget Chipmixer and never use any name/service associated with them, they aren't going to return back and don't expect that one of their moderator or co-owner escaped and decided to rebuild a similar business. Scammers use opportunities like this to lie people and milk them.

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Quote from: new19980 on June 03, 2023, 07:44:07 AM

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is btc mixer chipmixer .be legit or fake since i heard that original chipmixer .com seized by FBI

According to the LFBI report, the number of domains that chipmixer managed is three, and all of them have been seized.
this domain is fake clones of CM, and in any case it cannot enjoy the same trust that the original site enjoyed.
So chipmixer .be is a scammer trying to win over users trusting CM name.

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Quote from: smyslov on June 03, 2023, 08:31:10 AM

After the FBI seized Chipmixer there's so many clones and fake Chipmixer sites

There used to be a lot of clone and fake chipmixer sites even way before Chipmixer's domain seizure probably because of the Bitcoin mixture's popularity

Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 03, 2023, 08:38:59 AM

On top of that, Chipmixer was only running through an onion link, which could only be accessed using the Tor browser. Thus, any kind of Chipmixer website on the Clearnet is almost definitely a scam or phishing attempt. Thus, it'd be best to stay away from any kind of website that resembles the real CM and stick to a few alternative mixers that you can find around the forum.

Initially Mixing on Chipmixer could be done both on clearnet and Tor version. However, when the clearnet started getting lots of DDoS attacks and down times, they decided to make it just for informational purposes

Most of the fake and clone mixers are based on the old format of chipmixer.

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Quote from: examplens on June 03, 2023, 04:56:03 PM

Without any verification, any site that alludes to Chipmixer can be considered an attempted phishing scam.

Unless it was publicly announced on their ann thread which make it impossible because the owner was already arrested.

I guess asking such question with obvious answer is the proof why there are still getting scammed by phishing mixer site.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on June 03, 2023, 07:47:29 AM

Yes, the real site has been seized. The domain you shared was only bought a month ago (30th of April), this is just another phishing attempt.

I think it is almost impossible or there are very few chances that someone will start a "legal" mixing business using Chipmixer as a name in any form. It would be madness to deliberately attract attention from the investigative authorities from the beginning.
Without any verification, any site that alludes to Chipmixer can be considered an attempted phishing scam.

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Quote from: new19980 on June 03, 2023, 07:44:07 AM

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is btc mixer chipmixer .be legit or fake since i heard that original chipmixer .com seized by FBI

You knew it that the real one has been taken down by the government and that's why anything that comes out with the same name but with different domain, they're all fake and trying to phish some of the gullible people. Maybe there are still those folks that have funds there and trying to acquire their funds that's stuck there but due to the seizing, it was left there. The trickery is maybe telling these people that they can recover and send it back to them unless they pay a fee or it's simply just portraying as the legit one and anything that's deposited there is gone forever.

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Quote from: smyslov on June 03, 2023, 08:31:10 AM

After the FBI seized Chipmixer there's so many clones and fake Chipmixer sites if you're not updated on the latest news about Chipmixer you could fall to these clones and phishing Chipmixer sites, there are new mixers in the community if you want to find one you can check the service announcement
be sure to read users' feedback so you'll have ideas if this is the kind of mixer you're looking for.

There were a crap ton of scam clones even before Chipmixer got seized. It's pretty much the reason why a lot of people on various communities think that Chipmixer was a scam — because they pretty much got phished.

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