Topic: Is College Worth it? So many graduates In Debt/Underemployed - page 4. (Read 4883 times)

Think of education as an investment. It costs money, but you might end up with a better chance earning a higher salary.

Some colleges are crap, those aren't worth attending.

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It depends on what field you want to get into. If you wanna be a engineer or mechanic, you don't need college.
If you want to be a nurse, you need college.

Depends on the field guys......and even then you're not guaranteed a job.

Summed up perfectly. It's something that you should do if you're interested but not forced upon you.

Graduate school is broken in this respect at the moment i.e folks go to get the salary and not because they're passionate about the subject matter.

Yes College is good, but not all the people need it!

Well, if the peers accept your proof, your transaction gets included in the blockchain. And once that builds on to the next job, the new employer tends to overlook the fork you created.

I mean, if, after 10 years of working as a Network Admin, someone finds out that I cheated my certificates ...

For all other professionals, so long as you pass the board exam or whatever usual requirement is in that industry, then you're probably good to go. Most will not allow you to take the exam though, if you don't show "proof" that you studied that particular profession. (Law, Medical field, Accounting, etc.)

He must have been very busy during that one year.
It takes real dedication to get that much done quickly.

Hopefully our doctors won't cheat, else you will have a fun time after visiting them.

Well, some degrees are much more worthwhile than others. A lot of stats on this are available, generally showing much better payoff from technical fields compared to degrees in the humanities (unsurprisingly). In all cases, however, college provides one with an opportunity to build a network of contacts that can be a useful lifelong resource, it's up to the individual to make the most of it.

Isn't it less proof since you can cheat your way through college?

College = Proof of Work

Proof of Stake = ?

LOL, just thinking out loud.

No doubt. College/Universities are great places to gain knowledge (even though I believe most people go for the degrees).

In all honesty however, I think it is based off different learning types.

If you like balance and a structure of learning and cannot apply that on your own (Which many people cannot), then University/College is a better choice.

However, if you can apply the structure or sort-of "self-teach" yourself, then "self-teaching" yourself and building yourself up may be something to look at as well.

I think the bottom line is to not get influenced by others, evaluate yourself, and then make your own decision if University or College is worth it based on your principles of learning.

Edit: BTW, I forgot to vote on the poll. I voted "Yes, for the majority" simply because of the above stances of most people not knowing or able to self teach themselves.

Study to gain knowledge and be able to create your own business.

Good thoughts guys. Agree with 90%

I also think the best option is to work for yourself; entrepreneurship and self learning.

Business owner, Entrepreneur, Managing your own business. Never on my dream to work for someone.  My dreams are people working for me. 

I definitely think college is worth it for most degrees that have risk or you cannot demonstrate experience or skills based off actual proof.

But let me go into depth.

I believe for example, college is, and should be a requirement to be a doctor. Doctors have risk and need proof of some form of learning.

As a doctor, if a customer asks you for proof about previous "work", you cannot grab one of your clients and ask them to discuss their issue and how you helped resolve it with them (at least 99% of the time).

In relation to jobs such as Web Developer, Server Admin, Business, etc... I think there is no necessarily a requirement for college. You can display your testimonials and work on-demand, and there is no risk provided within the job (unless you are managing sensitive data, or data which cannot be destroyed (which you are not going to get with any level of college degree without experience anyways)).

With the startup industries we have today (which continue to grow) and inventions like Bitcoin which allow for innovation and adoption on all levels with no exclusion of people without college degrees, I think having no college degree is worth something to look at.

In my opinion, I think every teenager looking to go into university or college should look into depth at their current standing situation. Most college and university students are funnelled through college not because they need college or university, but because they believe they need college or university (promoted via ads or parents). I have to admit, the level and demonstration of marketing and promotion from the universities and colleges over the decades is remarkable. They made people believe they need proof of "knowledge and skills" from a corporate entity (most of the time).

In most cases I find people believe you cannot get anywhere in life without a college degree. "You're going to be working at McDonalds for the rest of your life".

With facts taken from http://facts.randomhistory.com/millionaires-facts.html and other websites (can source if required), around 20% of millionaries and billionaires don't have college/university degrees. I cannot find the article but I explicitly found an article ( I think on Forbes or something) that said a large population of the 1% of the 1% don't have degrees either (Bill Gates for example). Now I know anyone can go on the fact that "These are small cases, and do not happen a lot". My point is simple, if a person feels they can succeed, don't stunt that with your own beliefs. There is no age requirement for college (as far as I know) and you can go at any time. Let the person look into their own mind and make their OWN decision, not yours.

TL;DR: Do I think College is worth it... Yes, but only if...

1. The person is willing and doesn't have a sense of urge or motivation to "try it out on his/her own".
2. The degree is worth it in terms of the specific job.

I'm sorry, but with the unemployment rate standing today... It won't be your college degree or diploma that gets you the job much longer, it will be your motivation and enthusiasm about the job you want to posses -- so why can't people who are extremely motivated and have enthusiasm with no degree gets jobs again?...

For the record, I went to college, dropped out. I am trying without, if not - I shall make the responsible and personal decision on college or no college again.

No, 'compulsory' public education has been an extreme failure that nobody wants to talk about because they've convinced themselves it's the morally right thing to do to trick children from an early age into believing they're learning something that will either get them a job or help them survive out there, I was just having a chat with my art tutor about this and it's not only people my age that are being forced to stay at their parents homes again but even people her age ( She's a bit older than me ) are going back to their parents because it's becoming too expensive to stay on their own.

Now before public education advocates attack me with pitchforks and set me on fire, that is not to say it's necessarily a bad thing to go and get an education, if you can pick up a real skill set and you learn something then good on you, but the problem is the people running these courses are often scam artists and promise students the world if they sign up, once they have your money then that's it and you're fucked.

I stuck to private tuition and I honestly believe I have learned more in these past couple of years about my chosen subjects ( Art and Jewellery ) than I ever would have in a university factory processing environment because that's really all that matters to them. So long as you make their statistics look good, you aren't a problem to worry about or dispose of, my own experience of education was if I didn't care and did my work they didn't do shit, but if I did care and was actually interested in the subject they knew fuck all and were unwilling to teach me.

For the record I haven't been to university, but I've heard enough horror stories to prevent me from going and my experience in public education alone is what keeps me away, I think one of the worst parts about all these educational institutions is you're work is essentially their property and you sign it over when you go onto their course because they have zero respect for intellectual property, oh and they don't fucking pay freelancers.

For the accreditation yes

Will be some time yet before employers will look beyond diplomas to skill sets alone

College is about getting the diploma. Nowaday you can learn almost anything you want for free on the internet. There is a guy who did the MIT undergraduate computer science cirriculum in one year at home for the cost of text books. So if you can sell yourself without a diploma and have the discipline to learn on your own, skip college and the student debt and teach yourself.

Things you learn from college can be learnt from books and practical experience. Knowledge wise, it is not worth it. From securing a good steady job stand point, college is well worth it. How else can you give an employer confidence that you are as you as you say, against other hundreds of applicants?