Bernie vs Trump, Who is more Violent! (Social Experiment)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOkybuCXX0
Topic: Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? Support Your Position With Direct Quotes. (Read 3522 times)
April 19, 2016, 10:17:02 AM
April 16, 2016, 02:47:29 PM
Cut it with your bullshit, you are deliberately trying to stop anybody from posting about this by throwing accusations left and right and like most people like you you're extremely hostile to anyone that even politely disagrees with you, what's funny is you never really respond to anyone, you're just sitting there ragetyping and never having a conversation with people or reading their posts properly.
...aaand this is exactly why I made this self moderated thread so the adults could have a discussion about the facts without it being buried under a mountain of bullshit and bickering from moldlick and his ilk.
April 16, 2016, 02:29:51 PM
This thread is almost as classy as Donald Drumpf
You've been a big help for this.
Who's Donald Drumpf?
Still no direct quotes from you, not even in your little copycat thread made out of pure unicorn's dead skin.
John Oliver did a show about Donald Trump and how his grandfather changed his name to Trump from Drumpf when he immigrated here. He presented this as if it was evidence of Donald Trump being disingenuous even though he was born Donald Trump and had nothing to do with this name change. All the liberal loons watch shows like John Oliver's, Colbert, or The Daily Show where they spoon feed them highly manicured left leaning "factoids" in a show that is more infotainment than educational or news content and then proceed to pretend like they majored in the subject in college because they sat thru a 20 minute video about it.
April 16, 2016, 12:04:31 PM
This thread is almost as classy as Donald Drumpf
You've been a big help for this.
Who's Donald Drumpf?
Still no direct quotes from you, not even in your little copycat thread made out of pure unicorn's dead skin.
April 16, 2016, 08:20:18 AM
RE: Donald Trump calls for "ban on Muslims"
His ACTUAL words:
“Donald J. Trump, is calling for... now listen...you gotta to listen this one because this is pretty... pretty heavy stuff and it's common sense and we have to do it. Remember the poll numbers, 25%, 51%, remember the poll numbers. Ok, so remember this, so listen. Donald J. Trump, is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. We have no choice. We have...no...choice. We have...no...choice. According to Pew research among others, there is a great hatred towards Americans, by large segments of the Muslim population.
Most recently, a poll from Center for Security Policy released data showing 25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans... these are people that are here, by the way...people here. 25, not 1%, by the way 1% would be unacceptable. 1% is unacceptable. 25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans, here in the United States is justified as part... think of that…as part of the global jihad. They want to change your religion. I don't think so...I don't think so...I don't think so. Not gonna happen. ...as part of the global jihad, and 51% of those polled agreed that Muslims in America, should have the choice of being governed according to Sharia. You know what Sharia is. 51%. Sharia authorizes...and look, this...I mean...this is...this is terrible.
Sharia authorizes such atrocities as murder against nonbelievers who won't convert, beheadings, and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women. I mean...you look...especially women. Tough stuff, and we have a president that won't even mention the term and you're talking about numbers like this. Mr. Trump stated, without looking at the various polling data, it's obvious to anybody, the hatred is beyond comprehension. Such a big portion. ...where the hatred comes from, and why we'll have to determine, we're gonna have to figure it out. We have to figure it out. We can't live like this. It's gonna get worse and worse. We are going to have more World Trade Centers...it's gonna get worse and worse folks. We can be politically correct and we can be stupid, but its gonna get worse and worse. ...until we are able to determine and understand this problem, and the dangers the threat imposes, our country can not be the victim of horrendous attacks by people who believe only in jihad. These are people who only believe in jihad, they don't want our system. They don't want our system. ...and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. They have no respect for human life.”
Video of the speech: https://youtu.be/1Od9Bdfadvc?t=977
In summary, he is stating that polling data shows that a large percentage of Muslims currently residing in the US openly support violence against Americans and half of the Muslim population supports the implementation of Sharia law. He recognizes this threat is being underestimated by the media and politicians, and because they do not understand the scale of this threat, there should be a moratorium on Muslims entering the US until this threat can be addressed. He never said he wanted to ban all Muslims. Using polling data derived from the Muslim population within the United States itself, he is stating that this sentiment among their population is a threat and needs to be resolved BEFORE there are more attacks, not after, and this insane need to be politically correct is blinding people from seeing the enormity of this threat. These people do not want to integrate. They do not want to live by our laws. They want to impose their own religious laws upon this country. This violates everything we hold important as a secular nation. This is not racism. This is reality.
His ACTUAL words:
“Donald J. Trump, is calling for... now listen...you gotta to listen this one because this is pretty... pretty heavy stuff and it's common sense and we have to do it. Remember the poll numbers, 25%, 51%, remember the poll numbers. Ok, so remember this, so listen. Donald J. Trump, is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. We have no choice. We have...no...choice. We have...no...choice. According to Pew research among others, there is a great hatred towards Americans, by large segments of the Muslim population.
Most recently, a poll from Center for Security Policy released data showing 25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans... these are people that are here, by the way...people here. 25, not 1%, by the way 1% would be unacceptable. 1% is unacceptable. 25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans, here in the United States is justified as part... think of that…as part of the global jihad. They want to change your religion. I don't think so...I don't think so...I don't think so. Not gonna happen. ...as part of the global jihad, and 51% of those polled agreed that Muslims in America, should have the choice of being governed according to Sharia. You know what Sharia is. 51%. Sharia authorizes...and look, this...I mean...this is...this is terrible.
Sharia authorizes such atrocities as murder against nonbelievers who won't convert, beheadings, and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women. I mean...you look...especially women. Tough stuff, and we have a president that won't even mention the term and you're talking about numbers like this. Mr. Trump stated, without looking at the various polling data, it's obvious to anybody, the hatred is beyond comprehension. Such a big portion. ...where the hatred comes from, and why we'll have to determine, we're gonna have to figure it out. We have to figure it out. We can't live like this. It's gonna get worse and worse. We are going to have more World Trade Centers...it's gonna get worse and worse folks. We can be politically correct and we can be stupid, but its gonna get worse and worse. ...until we are able to determine and understand this problem, and the dangers the threat imposes, our country can not be the victim of horrendous attacks by people who believe only in jihad. These are people who only believe in jihad, they don't want our system. They don't want our system. ...and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. They have no respect for human life.”
Video of the speech: https://youtu.be/1Od9Bdfadvc?t=977
In summary, he is stating that polling data shows that a large percentage of Muslims currently residing in the US openly support violence against Americans and half of the Muslim population supports the implementation of Sharia law. He recognizes this threat is being underestimated by the media and politicians, and because they do not understand the scale of this threat, there should be a moratorium on Muslims entering the US until this threat can be addressed. He never said he wanted to ban all Muslims. Using polling data derived from the Muslim population within the United States itself, he is stating that this sentiment among their population is a threat and needs to be resolved BEFORE there are more attacks, not after, and this insane need to be politically correct is blinding people from seeing the enormity of this threat. These people do not want to integrate. They do not want to live by our laws. They want to impose their own religious laws upon this country. This violates everything we hold important as a secular nation. This is not racism. This is reality.
April 15, 2016, 07:46:22 PM
Of course not.
P.S. stop speaking for me.
P.S. stop speaking for me.
April 15, 2016, 06:55:29 PM
Since Moloch is too lazy to do his own homework I will do it for him. I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and chock it up to laziness and not stupidity or being flat out disingenuous. Either way I am pretty sure he is not interested in the truth, because the truth conflicts with his ideologies.
"I have black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that."
"That line, however, is not directly from Trump. It is found in a 1991 tell-all by a former Trump employee, who alleges in his book that he heard Trump say those words to a black accountant at a Trump-owned establishment, according a 2011 article in the Huffington Post." A former employee who was fired and is trying to sell his book BTW...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fusion-misattributes-racist-quote-to-donald-trump/article/2567872
And let me guess, no one else heard and has confirmed the quote in question?
Thought so.
"I have black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that."
"That line, however, is not directly from Trump. It is found in a 1991 tell-all by a former Trump employee, who alleges in his book that he heard Trump say those words to a black accountant at a Trump-owned establishment, according a 2011 article in the Huffington Post." A former employee who was fired and is trying to sell his book BTW...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fusion-misattributes-racist-quote-to-donald-trump/article/2567872
This is the difference between a Trump and Bernie supporter:
One of us checks his facts before posting...
The other makes up bullshit lies (then accuses me of doing the same)
One of us checks his facts before posting...
The other makes up bullshit lies (then accuses me of doing the same)
And let me guess, no one else heard and has confirmed the quote in question?
Thought so.
April 15, 2016, 03:45:19 PM
Real PER CAPITA homicide rates by race. Liberals have a severe aversion to statistical accuracy such as factoring in population size of the studied demographic. Scroll down for tables.
http://www.columbia.edu/~rs328/Homicide.pdf
...Or is Columbia University racist too? Maybe reality is racist.
http://www.columbia.edu/~rs328/Homicide.pdf
...Or is Columbia University racist too? Maybe reality is racist.
April 15, 2016, 02:36:08 PM
Since Moloch is too lazy to do his own homework I will do it for him. I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and chock it up to laziness and not stupidity or being flat out disingenuous. Either way I am pretty sure he is not interested in the truth, because the truth conflicts with his ideologies.
"I have black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that."
"That line, however, is not directly from Trump. It is found in a 1991 tell-all by a former Trump employee, who alleges in his book that he heard Trump say those words to a black accountant at a Trump-owned establishment, according a 2011 article in the Huffington Post." A former employee who was fired and is trying to sell his book BTW...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fusion-misattributes-racist-quote-to-donald-trump/article/2567872
The irony is so sweet.
"I have black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that."
"That line, however, is not directly from Trump. It is found in a 1991 tell-all by a former Trump employee, who alleges in his book that he heard Trump say those words to a black accountant at a Trump-owned establishment, according a 2011 article in the Huffington Post." A former employee who was fired and is trying to sell his book BTW...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fusion-misattributes-racist-quote-to-donald-trump/article/2567872
This is the difference between a Trump and Bernie supporter:
One of us checks his facts before posting...
The other makes up bullshit lies (then accuses me of doing the same)
One of us checks his facts before posting...
The other makes up bullshit lies (then accuses me of doing the same)
The irony is so sweet.
April 15, 2016, 08:17:58 AM
This moloch is giving a bad name to that ancient, evil, but original baby burning god. Sad.
How about that. So my vague memories of the nature of a Moloch were not wrong. Maybe I remember it from Paradise Lost. (which is not a training manual for a better, socialist future...)
April 14, 2016, 08:17:45 PM
This moloch is giving a bad name to that ancient, evil, but original baby burning god. Sad.
April 14, 2016, 08:12:10 PM
Please don't make it look like my words are Moloch's, he doesn't deserve that much credit.
Okay, okay, and look, this is all like- serious, dude. It's the eulogy to the fun-eral of that Benie dudester. April 14, 2016, 07:27:43 PM
Please don't make it look like my words are Moloch's, he doesn't deserve that much credit.
April 14, 2016, 06:58:50 PM
I thought you were done posting here. You can't even follow your own rules. If you'll notice I have quoted everything you said, so no need to crap up the thread with your bullshit two times.
P.S. I don't need to edit your words to make you look stupid, you do a great job of that on your own.
P.S. I don't need to edit your words to make you look stupid, you do a great job of that on your own.
I don't think it's trolling to note that "Molooch" sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings, if it DOES...
April 14, 2016, 03:32:19 PM
If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change
You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak
#Trumpeteer
You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak
#Trumpeteer
I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.
I agree, anyway the name Moloch sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings.
If you notice all he ever does is list excuses of why he doesn't have to engage in debate or acknowledge any points in opposition to his own bias, and then accuse you of doing it when you point it out. It is much like the psychology of a 4 year old when you confront them about the cookies they stole out of the cookie jar. "You ate those cookies didn't you?" "NO YOU!"
^^ This is trolling
You two should seriously get a room if you want to compare your Troll-penis size
You have never attempted to have a debate
You have never made a single point/claim, much less backed it up with any form of evidence...
What is your game here?
Slander me? To what end?
Anyone reading this thread (or others) can see you are completely wrong, and acting childish
If you want to be treated like an adult, act like one. Debate me instead of running away like a coward. This thread is about YOU providing evidence to back up YOUR claims, not just some bullshit sensationalized editorial from Huffington Post. Tell me what am I supposed to prove, that Donald Trump is not a racist?
Listen fucktard
It's not a debate when I (along with other forum members) post quotes and sources... then you delete them, and talk shit
I'm done with this thread (and you), go troll someone else
Damn... delete my post AND edit what I said... Classy
I thought you were done posting here. You can't even follow your own rules. If you'll notice I have quoted everything you said, so no need to crap up the thread with your bullshit two times.
P.S. I don't need to edit your words to make you look stupid, you do a great job of that on your own.
April 14, 2016, 03:29:05 PM
If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change
You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak
#Trumpeteer
You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak
#Trumpeteer
I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.
I agree, anyway the name Moloch sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings.
If you notice all he ever does is list excuses of why he doesn't have to engage in debate or acknowledge any points in opposition to his own bias, and then accuse you of doing it when you point it out. It is much like the psychology of a 4 year old when you confront them about the cookies they stole out of the cookie jar. "You ate those cookies didn't you?" "NO YOU!"
^^ This is trolling
You two should seriously get a room if you want to compare your Troll-penis size
You have never attempted to have a debate
You have never made a single point/claim, much less backed it up with any form of evidence...
What is your game here?
Slander me? To what end?
Anyone reading this thread (or others) can see you are completely wrong, and acting childish
If you want to be treated like an adult, act like one. Debate me instead of running away like a coward. This thread is about YOU providing evidence to back up YOUR claims, not just some bullshit sensationalized editorial from Huffington Post. Tell me what am I supposed to prove, that Donald Trump is not a racist?
Listen fucktard
It's not a debate when I (along with other forum members) post quotes and sources... then you delete them, and talk shit
I'm done with this thread (and you), go troll someone else
You can't even use the quote function let alone provide quotes with a source. Run back to your safe space before you might have to question your ideals. RUN FORREST RUN!
April 14, 2016, 03:16:45 PM
Listen fucktard
It's not a debate when I (along with other forum members) post quotes and sources and you delete them
It's not a debate when I (along with other forum members) post quotes and sources and you delete them
So this isn't trolling but I am trolling? Interesting how those standards are different for you. Additionally no you didn't, you produced editorial 3rd party "sources" which were taken out of context. I explicitly stated the sources had to be direct and unedited. I am sorry if you are incapable of following simple logical standards that are the basis for any source or debate the world over. If you had completed more than a high school level of education you would know how to do this.
April 14, 2016, 03:09:47 PM
If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change
You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak
#Trumpeteer
You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak
#Trumpeteer
I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.
I agree, anyway the name Moloch sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings.
If you notice all he ever does is list excuses of why he doesn't have to engage in debate or acknowledge any points in opposition to his own bias, and then accuse you of doing it when you point it out. It is much like the psychology of a 4 year old when you confront them about the cookies they stole out of the cookie jar. "You ate those cookies didn't you?" "NO YOU!"
^^ This is trolling
You two should seriously get a room if you want to compare your Troll-penis size
You have never attempted to have a debate
You have never made a single point/claim, much less backed it up with any form of evidence...
What is your game here?
Slander me? To what end?
Anyone reading this thread (or others) can see you are completely wrong, and acting childish
If you want to be treated like an adult, act like one. Debate me instead of running away like a coward. This thread is about YOU providing evidence to back up YOUR claims, not just some bullshit sensationalized editorial from Huffington Post. Tell me what am I supposed to prove, that Donald Trump is not a racist? My "game" here is proving you, and people like you are incapable of having a legitimate debate which includes REAL sources.
April 14, 2016, 02:56:46 PM
If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change
You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak
#Trumpeteer
You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak
#Trumpeteer
I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.
I agree, anyway the name Moloch sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings.
If you notice all he ever does is list excuses of why he doesn't have to engage in debate or acknowledge any points in opposition to his own bias, and then accuse you of doing it when you point it out. It is much like the psychology of a 4 year old when you confront them about the cookies they stole out of the cookie jar. "You ate those cookies didn't you?" "NO YOU!"
April 14, 2016, 01:45:14 PM
If you wanted a debate, you wouldn't have deleted people's posts, changed the rules in the OP, then mocked everyone for not following your ex-post-facto rule change
You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak
#Trumpeteer
You created this thread... to toot your own horn... so to speak
#Trumpeteer
I created this thread because people like you are too retarded to engage in an actual debate. Run away back back to your safe space now.
I agree, anyway the name Moloch sounds like a bad guy from the Lord of the Rings.