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Quote from: Forester618 on March 31, 2017, 02:28:03 PM

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I think that Trump became president thanks to the secret government and if he does something not as beneficial to them, then mass protests will begin. He was well promoted and he became president, although most people did not vote for him. Perhaps his fortune, he also earned thanks to the help of someone from the representatives of the world government.

I doubt that there is a world government. If it existed then why do they President is an idiot? No I'm a supporter of the theory of the case. It seems to me that Trump helped the case. He probably did not expect to win. Just PR.

Well, this PR most likely arranged a secret world government. And if someone else has arranged, then the secret world government will remove Trump from the presidency ahead of schedule because they will not be interested in such a clown.

It will be removed anyway. There is a world government or not, but he has no chance. He not only has no support even in his party, but he is a wimp. Trump said that Obama is a wimp, and he can't do anything.

I agree. It can be removed by the end of the year. He will not fulfill his promises and mass protests will begin. It is weak and this will lead to even more exhaustion of the country. Therefore, the faster it is removed the better it will be for the country.

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Quote from: Forester618 on March 31, 2017, 02:28:03 PM

It will be removed anyway. There is a world government or not, but he has no chance. He not only has no support even in his party, but he is a wimp. Trump said that Obama is a wimp, and he can't do anything.

Trump correctly branded Obama as a wimp. Look at his foreign policy. It was a complete disaster. Had anyone with a stable mind was in the office, then the Benghazi attacks would have never happened. And look at the mess in Syria and Iraq.

I completely agree with you. Almost Obama failed the US foreign policy. This potential, which America collected for decades, it has greatly weakened. Maybe Tampa will get it right.

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Quote from: Forester618 on March 31, 2017, 02:28:03 PM

It will be removed anyway. There is a world government or not, but he has no chance. He not only has no support even in his party, but he is a wimp. Trump said that Obama is a wimp, and he can't do anything.

Trump correctly branded Obama as a wimp. Look at his foreign policy. It was a complete disaster. Had anyone with a stable mind was in the office, then the Benghazi attacks would have never happened. And look at the mess in Syria and Iraq.

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Quote from: rokkiBalboa on March 31, 2017, 02:15:45 PM

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Quote from: JofryTheKing on March 30, 2017, 01:15:28 PM

I think that Trump became president thanks to the secret government and if he does something not as beneficial to them, then mass protests will begin. He was well promoted and he became president, although most people did not vote for him. Perhaps his fortune, he also earned thanks to the help of someone from the representatives of the world government.

I doubt that there is a world government. If it existed then why do they President is an idiot? No I'm a supporter of the theory of the case. It seems to me that Trump helped the case. He probably did not expect to win. Just PR.

Well, this PR most likely arranged a secret world government. And if someone else has arranged, then the secret world government will remove Trump from the presidency ahead of schedule because they will not be interested in such a clown.

It will be removed anyway. There is a world government or not, but he has no chance. He not only has no support even in his party, but he is a wimp. Trump said that Obama is a wimp, and he can't do anything.

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Quote from: Lieldoryn on March 30, 2017, 01:22:36 PM

Quote from: JofryTheKing on March 30, 2017, 01:15:28 PM

I think that Trump became president thanks to the secret government and if he does something not as beneficial to them, then mass protests will begin. He was well promoted and he became president, although most people did not vote for him. Perhaps his fortune, he also earned thanks to the help of someone from the representatives of the world government.

I doubt that there is a world government. If it existed then why do they President is an idiot? No I'm a supporter of the theory of the case. It seems to me that Trump helped the case. He probably did not expect to win. Just PR.

Well, this PR most likely arranged a secret world government. And if someone else has arranged, then the secret world government will remove Trump from the presidency ahead of schedule because they will not be interested in such a clown.

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Trump ain't no puppet.

.... If you ignore.the giant, Russian elephant in the room.

Mis-use. 'Elephant in the room' implies something which is obvious and not talked about. 'The Russians' have been talked about for at least 9 months non-stop. What's sorely lacking is anything resembling solid evidence, and what 'evidence' is kicking around is ridiculously weak.

Actually, there is a huge elephant in the room regarding influence by a certain other nation who we give a lot of taxpayer money to and in doing so complicate our international relations and sully our own reputation (even more than we manage on our own.) It's almost as if some of our politicians are under extortion or something. Some former politicians say that DC is 'occupied territory', where the occupation is by people who have an affinity for said nation.

Don't hold your breath for the Left and the corporate media to attack Trump on this weakness even though it is seemingly the biggest defect the guy and his administration have.

Well shit, I'll bite. Is that said nation Israel? Because until they work that shit out over there, we will be tipping around on egg shells half defending them and half wagging our fingers at them. We send soooooo much money to Israel. And you won't hear too much about it because pro Israel interests sponsor on both sides of the aisle. Don't bite the hand that feeds.

And I'll keep my choice of elephant, given your definition Wink

This has been dismissed so completely by parts of the GOP and hyper conservative media. The Russians pulled a pretty decent psy op on us, and they would have gotten away with it too, if not for those meddling kids. But the outrage expressed at this is less than the daily outrage expressed at Hillary and Obama's mere existence. The GOP is playing it real fast and loose with this one; it will have repercussions around the bend.

You are right, the Russian connection is quite obvious. And it seems like the Trumpian WH and GOP want to talk about everything else but that. So, I would change it to 'elephant shaped nesting dolls' in the room. With recording equipment inside.

Do you still think that in the US elections were intervened on the orders of Russia or Trump is the chicken president whom the citizens of the United States wanted to see? I'm interested in people's thoughts on this matter. A lot of information that looks like nonsense and so you want truth.

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Quote from: tvbcof on March 30, 2017, 11:43:09 AM

Quote from: GreenBits on March 30, 2017, 09:14:39 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 30, 2017, 08:40:53 AM

Trump ain't no puppet.

.... If you ignore.the giant, Russian elephant in the room.

Mis-use. 'Elephant in the room' implies something which is obvious and not talked about. 'The Russians' have been talked about for at least 9 months non-stop. What's sorely lacking is anything resembling solid evidence, and what 'evidence' is kicking around is ridiculously weak.

Actually, there is a huge elephant in the room regarding influence by a certain other nation who we give a lot of taxpayer money to and in doing so complicate our international relations and sully our own reputation (even more than we manage on our own.) It's almost as if some of our politicians are under extortion or something. Some former politicians say that DC is 'occupied territory', where the occupation is by people who have an affinity for said nation.

Don't hold your breath for the Left and the corporate media to attack Trump on this weakness even though it is seemingly the biggest defect the guy and his administration have.

Well shit, I'll bite. Is that said nation Israel? Because until they work that shit out over there, we will be tipping around on egg shells half defending them and half wagging our fingers at them. We send soooooo much money to Israel. And you won't hear too much about it because pro Israel interests sponsor on both sides of the aisle. Don't bite the hand that feeds.

And I'll keep my choice of elephant, given your definition Wink

This has been dismissed so completely by parts of the GOP and hyper conservative media. The Russians pulled a pretty decent psy op on us, and they would have gotten away with it too, if not for those meddling kids. But the outrage expressed at this is less than the daily outrage expressed at Hillary and Obama's mere existence. The GOP is playing it real fast and loose with this one; it will have repercussions around the bend.

You are right, the Russian connection is quite obvious. And it seems like the Trumpian WH and GOP want to talk about everything else but that. So, I would change it to 'elephant shaped nesting dolls' in the room. With recording equipment inside.

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Quote from: Lieldoryn on March 30, 2017, 01:22:36 PM

Quote from: JofryTheKing on March 30, 2017, 01:15:28 PM

I think that Trump became president thanks to the secret government and if he does something not as beneficial to them, then mass protests will begin. He was well promoted and he became president, although most people did not vote for him. Perhaps his fortune, he also earned thanks to the help of someone from the representatives of the world government.

I doubt that there is a world government. If it existed then why do they President is an idiot? No I'm a supporter of the theory of the case. It seems to me that Trump helped the case. He probably did not expect to win. Just PR.

I think there is a world government, look at how even the Republican Party were sorely against A Trump Prescidency, The whole world was against him, I heard Trumps own dogs were against him being President. They world painted him as a narcissist and fraud. It was only because his message of making America great which resonated so well with the American people which made him win coupled with Obama's uneffectivenes against ISIS and other major problems in the USA that made him the election.

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Quote from: JofryTheKing on March 30, 2017, 01:15:28 PM

I think that Trump became president thanks to the secret government and if he does something not as beneficial to them, then mass protests will begin. He was well promoted and he became president, although most people did not vote for him. Perhaps his fortune, he also earned thanks to the help of someone from the representatives of the world government.

I doubt that there is a world government. If it existed then why do they President is an idiot? No I'm a supporter of the theory of the case. It seems to me that Trump helped the case. He probably did not expect to win. Just PR.

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I think that Trump became president thanks to the secret government and if he does something not as beneficial to them, then mass protests will begin. He was well promoted and he became president, although most people did not vote for him. Perhaps his fortune, he also earned thanks to the help of someone from the representatives of the world government.

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Quote from: yoseph on March 30, 2017, 12:42:55 PM

The options provided for the question is not really fair, OP has already determined that Trump is already not an independent, People should be given the benefit of the doubt and we should go be in this world with an open mind. Thats the best way in life.

Putin today threw an open challenge to Trump. Let's see how this clown will respond to it. I remember that before the election he said he will show Putin who is a strong President. Will wait for his response. Although most likely there will be no answer.

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The options provided for the question is not really fair, OP has already determined that Trump is already not an independent, People should be given the benefit of the doubt and we should go be in this world with an open mind. Thats the best way in life.

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While you search for evidence Putin has threatened America with war for the support of Ukraine. He feels weakness and Trump openly wipes his feet on. He would say so under Reagan or Bush Sr. Trump is a disgrace to the nation.

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Quote from: GreenBits on March 30, 2017, 09:14:39 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 30, 2017, 08:40:53 AM

Trump ain't no puppet.

.... If you ignore.the giant, Russian elephant in the room.

Mis-use. 'Elephant in the room' implies something which is obvious and not talked about. 'The Russians' have been talked about for at least 9 months non-stop. What's sorely lacking is anything resembling solid evidence, and what 'evidence' is kicking around is ridiculously weak.

Actually, there is a huge elephant in the room regarding influence by a certain other nation who we give a lot of taxpayer money to and in doing so complicate our international relations and sully our own reputation (even more than we manage on our own.) It's almost as if some of our politicians are under extortion or something. Some former politicians say that DC is 'occupied territory', where the occupation is by people who have an affinity for said nation.

Don't hold your breath for the Left and the corporate media to attack Trump on this weakness even though it is seemingly the biggest defect the guy and his administration have.

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When it comes to independence of the president, I make bold to say, it does not exist any where in the world because if Trump had been independent, then the travel ban in the first few weeks of his administration would have passed without any reprisal but because he is answerable to others who are even more powerful than him, he had to go back to the drawing board. Any politician campaigning on his own independence is just a clown deceiving the electorates...

But if we are talking about a dictator? It is clear that Trump is a puppet, but a dictator like Putin or Erdogan? Many of their associates unhappy with their policies, but they can not influence their actions. It turns out that not all countries presidents are puppets.

Trump ain't no puppet.

.... If you ignore.the giant, Russian elephant in the room.

Why do you think that in America ignore the Russian threat? I think it is not. Trump and his team on this occasion had turned a corner. View, every step is controlled by the Senate and the Congress. All decrees Trump blocked by the courts. The CIA investigates links with Russia all team members Trump.

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Quote from: Spendulus on March 30, 2017, 08:40:53 AM

Quote from: Casanova18 on March 29, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

Quote from: olubams on March 29, 2017, 07:07:06 AM

When it comes to independence of the president, I make bold to say, it does not exist any where in the world because if Trump had been independent, then the travel ban in the first few weeks of his administration would have passed without any reprisal but because he is answerable to others who are even more powerful than him, he had to go back to the drawing board. Any politician campaigning on his own independence is just a clown deceiving the electorates...

But if we are talking about a dictator? It is clear that Trump is a puppet, but a dictator like Putin or Erdogan? Many of their associates unhappy with their policies, but they can not influence their actions. It turns out that not all countries presidents are puppets.

Trump ain't no puppet.

.... If you ignore.the giant, Russian elephant in the room.

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Quote from: Casanova18 on March 29, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

Quote from: olubams on March 29, 2017, 07:07:06 AM

When it comes to independence of the president, I make bold to say, it does not exist any where in the world because if Trump had been independent, then the travel ban in the first few weeks of his administration would have passed without any reprisal but because he is answerable to others who are even more powerful than him, he had to go back to the drawing board. Any politician campaigning on his own independence is just a clown deceiving the electorates...

But if we are talking about a dictator? It is clear that Trump is a puppet, but a dictator like Putin or Erdogan? Many of their associates unhappy with their policies, but they can not influence their actions. It turns out that not all countries presidents are puppets.

Trump ain't no puppet.

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Quote from: olubams on March 29, 2017, 07:07:06 AM

When it comes to independence of the president, I make bold to say, it does not exist any where in the world because if Trump had been independent, then the travel ban in the first few weeks of his administration would have passed without any reprisal but because he is answerable to others who are even more powerful than him, he had to go back to the drawing board. Any politician campaigning on his own independence is just a clown deceiving the electorates...

But if we are talking about a dictator? It is clear that Trump is a puppet, but a dictator like Putin or Erdogan? Many of their associates unhappy with their policies, but they can not influence their actions. It turns out that not all countries presidents are puppets.

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When it comes to independence of the president, I make bold to say, it does not exist any where in the world because if Trump had been independent, then the travel ban in the first few weeks of his administration would have passed without any reprisal but because he is answerable to others who are even more powerful than him, he had to go back to the drawing board. Any politician campaigning on his own independence is just a clown deceiving the electorates...

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Quote from: CroIsBest on January 24, 2017, 05:35:44 PM

Yea Donald Trump is not controlled by nobody but many Americans dont see that Donald Trump is the best USA president and reall funny but really weird what makes him more funny with really big world public:He also want peace and work with Russia what is good so maybe he will not give access to balck organisations to make a wars.

I agree with you. Trump is the worst President. Other than PR, he has nothing to offer neither the us nor the world. He is torn between his sponsors. He says one thing, promises another, and do third. How can you respect a President? No respect for the President will not respect neither to him nor to America.

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