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newbie
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July 14, 2024, 11:07:26 AM
Grin hashrate : 4:62 KGps   Shocked
That's the graph rate. Each graph is defined by 2^33 (~8 billion) hashes.

you just nitpicking.
What matter is GPS or hashrate is ALL Time LOW.

G1 ASICs available generally, even directly from ipollo still recently I think. This still represents thousands of ASICs securing the chain as it is, but all time low hashrate means you get the most coins for the least work, so never been a better time to mine.

The price of Grin has dropped by 99.9 percent. Of the thousands of miners you mentioned, there is no sound. The company (iPollo), which spent tens of millions of dollars just for chip investment, gave no reaction.

somebodys know grin more than us,  they without caring about the price, are waiting for the collapse of BTC after 2028 and the rise of Grin.

You are a gang. You have taken over Grin and are pulling all kinds of tricks. You have destroyed small investors. You have many BTC in your hands and you are comfortable.

The gang;
 dont finish GUI wallets, does not respond to stock markets, closes Telegram channels and Twitter accounts, gives wrong codes to volunteer software developers, and does not fix the errors they find.

Now you can call me a "troll" and feel at ease.
legendary
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Today at 03:09:45 AM

all the gosh knows how many other coins that emit the same number of coins per block forever

I don't know of any besides Grin.

I know Doge currently has a fixed block reward, but over the first year rewards were 20x higher.


Hmm you joined the forum in 2013, maybe they were all before your time?

Off the top of my head I can think of CoiLedCoin (CLC) and I think maybe GeistGeld (XGG) too, and of course GRouPcoin (GRP)'s 50 coins per block forever followed by DeVCoin's 50,000 coins per block forever which admittedly can be marred by failing to provide viable distribution files since if it cannot find a consensus as to which projects to send 90% of the mined coins to it creates only the 5000 the miner gets.

Are there really no others? TeneBriX (TBX)'s 7 coins per block forever is of course marred from the outset by its pre-mine, and FairBriX (FBX) didn't just correct the pre-mine I think but maybe put some kind of halving too (?).

I cannot recall offhand what United Federation Credits (UFC)'s emission schedule is, does it have some halving or something too?

Coins which combine staking alongside proof of work of course, and plain old staking coins too, might even cause an even more fair emission rate as in closer to the same percent of pre-existing coins emitted generation after generation, rather than a smaller and smaller emission for each generation of the total thus far minted...

I had not realised though that a constant number of coins emitted per block is truly rare, I am pretty sure there are other examples I have stumbled upon over the years.

I think one of the currencies used by the designated-evil civilisations in the Galactic Milieu also has constant emission, I know XDC has halvings so presumably it would be CRY, if either, that is just going to go on pumping out a constant emission forever.

I still feel sure there are others I cannot recall, not adopted by the Milieu, that over the years I had noticed as yet another constant-emission coin.

Wow I guess satoshi's vision of halvings really has had a lot of impact all this time eh? Smiley


-MarkM-

legendary
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Today at 02:43:23 AM
all the gosh knows how many other coins that emit the same number of coins per block forever
I don't know of any besides Grin.

I know Doge currently has a fixed block reward, but over the first year rewards were 20x higher.
legendary
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January 16, 2025, 11:08:07 PM
I don't understand how GRIN's emission rate is more fair than those of all the gosh knows how many other coins that emit the same number of coins per block forever, unless GRIN increases the reward per block the more blocks have already happened?

The rate at which minting inflates the supply is shown as declining over the years, but maybe that is just because the increased amount of reward doesn't quite make up for the ever-accumulating number already minted?

Some posts above seem to strongly hint emission is constant per block but then others claim somehow that all the other countless coins doing that simple an emission are somehow less fair to future generations?

GRIN sounds like a coin the Galactic Milieu could well adopt, maybe as the currency of some civilisation that likes privacy or even as something the secret services of various, even possibly many, civilisations could use, for example to co-ordinate black ops operations among more and more allied civilisations as more nations join the (galactic) United Nations or simply as more and larger alliances are formed.

A comment earlier in this thread suggested needing a treasury is a feature only of scams, but possibly the kind of treasury meant there was different from the kind of treasury the Milieu uses to enable the game to directly compute a value per coin by dividing the total value of its treasury by the number minted.

A coin for use by many civilisations' secret services could well be a good example of an application wherein it might well be best for each concerned / involved / supporting civilisation to have its own distinct separate secure such treasury for such a coin, so maybe ultimately the some-thought-facetious "TeXan Bucks (TXB)" proposal, whereby five or so major "central banks" of five or so major civilisations would each hold deposits of hard currency on behalf of the Texans of the planet known as M4 and each such deposit-account would be separately used to calculate a per unit value for TXB rather than adding up the value of all of them to calculate a per unit value for TXB, was not really as facetious as some may at the time have imagined.

(The hard currency in question would have been BiTCoin, whose blockchain is itself the central bank of the Hacker civilisation so ultimately all those other central banks would have been holding the keys to deposits of hard currency at the "Bank Of and For Hackers", BOFH. Smiley The Texans seem a natural civilisation to have come up with such an idea simply because as everyone knows Texans do everything bigger and better and so on than some other civilisations that possibly are best left unspecified but that are according to some Texans extremely numerous.)

The cheaper the coin can be acquired of course the less onerous the assembling of such an array of treasuries would be. Smiley

It has long been advised that security by obscurity is no security, but nonetheless it seems to me obscurity could be at least some small edge over running around the galaxies shouting "look at me, look at me, you can't see me!"... Cheesy


-MarkM-

member
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January 16, 2025, 09:02:47 PM
What is the simplest crypto-currency?
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/54585/what-is-the-simplest-crypto-currency/125388#125388

3 days remaining for entering this meme contest: make a Grin mining meme to win block rewards
https://forum.grin.mw/t/meme-contest-make-a-grin-mining-meme-to-win-block-rewards/11507/1
legendary
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July 13, 2024, 10:15:31 AM
Grin hashrate : 4:62 KGps   Shocked
That's the graph rate. Each graph is defined by 2^33 (~8 billion) hashes.

you just nitpicking.
What matter is GPS or hashrate is ALL Time LOW.

G1 ASICs available generally, even directly from ipollo still recently I think. This still represents thousands of ASICs securing the chain as it is, but all time low hashrate means you get the most coins for the least work, so never been a better time to mine.
legendary
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July 13, 2024, 02:03:10 AM
Grin hashrate : 4:62 KGps   Shocked
That's the graph rate. Each graph is defined by 2^33 (~8 billion) hashes.
legendary
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July 12, 2024, 12:15:25 PM
Fair shit  Grin

Grin hashrate : 4:62 KGps   Shocked

time2mine akhi

kyc-free coins are best coins

newbie
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July 09, 2024, 08:11:14 AM
Stayin’ Alive
legendary
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July 04, 2024, 06:40:53 PM
Happy freedom Day grinners
legendary
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
April 29, 2024, 08:59:52 PM
The chart at [1] compares privacy features (and scalability) of various coins. Zcash offers the most, but (like Monero) at significant cost in scalability.

[1] https://forum.grin.mw/t/scalability-vs-privacy-chart/8114

Zcash is a corporate coin (Electric Coin Company/ECC), so I wouldn't trust it. Not like Grin or Monero which are community-owned cryptocurrencies. I've read articles online claiming ZEC has a backdoor allowing governments to access sensitive info when they need to. That was during Zcash's initial days when it had a trusted setup. Developers removed the need for a trusted setup with recent network upgrades, but I'm still skeptical.

Good-old GRIN is a much better choice, imo. It's one of the early privacy coins that made use of "Mimblewimble". Just like BEAM. Litecoin even adopted GRIN's privacy tech in its core wallet software. If GRIN development continues, it could become a solid project like Monero. We need as much privacy coins as possible to help counter governments' efforts of taking down mixers for good. Who knows what the future of the crypto industry will be? Cheesy
newbie
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April 28, 2024, 11:19:46 AM
Very much so. Grin gang is still around and active with development. We're just playing with our highly scalable private by default currency with no addresses or amounts in peace.
legendary
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April 27, 2024, 03:59:01 AM
I didn't even say "fairly distributed" to be fair, just how do you make sure everyone has a chance to get some (fairly or unfairly I guess), and I used WorldCoin as one (bad) example. We only really know two ways to distribute coins afaik - mining and centralized distributor.
legendary
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April 27, 2024, 02:52:36 AM
Worldcoin? Isn't that the one created by Sam Altman (the founder of OpenAI)? I wouldn't call it a "privacy coin", especially when it used to collect biometric data from users.
He didn't claim it as a privacy coin, but as a fairly distributed coin. I strongly disagree however, since worldcoin founders can allocate arbitrary amounts to themselves, with or without making up fake identities.

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Not even the original Worldcoin project (with ticker WDC) has privacy features. Only GRIN and Monero have.
The chart at [1] compares privacy features (and scalability) of various coins. Zcash offers the most, but (like Monero) at significant cost in scalability.

[1] https://forum.grin.mw/t/scalability-vs-privacy-chart/8114
legendary
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
April 26, 2024, 09:07:26 PM
I think (or hope) that the recent actions, and oversteps, by the US govt will start to remind people why we are here in the first place, and we will see renewed interest in so called "privacy coins".

It was over three decades ago this was published:
https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html

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We the Cypherpunks are dedicated to building anonymous systems. We are defending our privacy with cryptography, with anonymous mail forwarding systems, with digital signatures, and with electronic money.

Cypherpunks write code. We know that someone has to write software to defend privacy, and since we can't get privacy unless we all do, we're going to write it. We publish our code so that our fellow Cypherpunks may practice and play with it. Our code is free for all to use, worldwide. We don't much care if you don't approve of the software we write. We know that software can't be destroyed and that a widely dispersed system can't be shut down.

Fifteen years after that and fifteen years before today, Satoshi launched the first widely dispersed electronic money system that can't be shut down. Ten years ago Monero launched and added significantly more anonymity to the mix. And five years ago Grin launched with an efficient and fairly private blockchain, but more importantly imo a significantly more fair distribution or emission curve.

How do you make sure everyone in the world has a chance to get some coin? The only two viable options on the market today seem to be grin and worldcoin Cheesy

Worldcoin? Isn't that the one created by Sam Altman (the founder of OpenAI)? I wouldn't call it a "privacy coin", especially when it used to collect biometric data from users. Not even the original Worldcoin project (with ticker WDC) has privacy features. Only GRIN and Monero have. They're considered the best privacy coins in the world. Monero has a larger community than GRIN because it's much older. It's also much more active in development and heavily-marketed across the web.

Despite that, GRIN is still going strong (even with declining interest in privacy coins among the general public). With mainstream governments getting stricter against crypto/Blockchain tech, I believe people will turn their attention to GRIN and the likes. It would only be a matter of time before this happens. Who knows how far will the GRIN project go? Cheesy
legendary
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April 25, 2024, 08:41:15 PM
#99
I think (or hope) that the recent actions, and oversteps, by the US govt will start to remind people why we are here in the first place, and we will see renewed interest in so called "privacy coins".

It was over three decades ago this was published:
https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html

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We the Cypherpunks are dedicated to building anonymous systems. We are defending our privacy with cryptography, with anonymous mail forwarding systems, with digital signatures, and with electronic money.

Cypherpunks write code. We know that someone has to write software to defend privacy, and since we can't get privacy unless we all do, we're going to write it. We publish our code so that our fellow Cypherpunks may practice and play with it. Our code is free for all to use, worldwide. We don't much care if you don't approve of the software we write. We know that software can't be destroyed and that a widely dispersed system can't be shut down.

Fifteen years after that and fifteen years before today, Satoshi launched the first widely dispersed electronic money system that can't be shut down. Ten years ago Monero launched and added significantly more anonymity to the mix. And five years ago Grin launched with an efficient and fairly private blockchain, but more importantly imo a significantly more fair distribution or emission curve.

How do you make sure everyone in the world has a chance to get some coin? The only two viable options on the market today seem to be grin and worldcoin Cheesy

legendary
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April 25, 2024, 01:03:27 PM
#98
I've been looking again a bit into the stats and currently they're quite bleak at the first glance. Google Trends searches are very low, even if there was a little bit more interest than in 2022/23 lately.


I however am not sure which could be the best search term here, but I think grin alone isn't enough.

Price has also unfortunately returned to the levels before the 2024 pump, hitting new lows when compared to Bitcoin. Here's a bit larger picture since the 2022 lows, including the important Grin/BTC chart:


For someone new to Grin like me it can look like "should I really buy that?", but it also could be an opportunity, knowing that Grin is truly a quite unique coin. I can imagine that a part of the recent price decrease is to a generally weak altcoin market, but also the decision of the Ironbelly developer to end development  (that seems to have been a mobile Grin app and was probably was MemurKafasi mentioned above) could have contributed. There seems to be some conflict in the community when reading the latest pages, and I don't really understand why, perhaps someone can enlighten me Smiley Reminds me a bit of Burstcoin (now Signum) also an interesting project but which lost traction due to continued conflict between the devs, followed by a rebranding which while it made sense could not revert the tendency until now.

Well, privacy coins aren't as popular as NFTs or even "meme" coins like Dogecoin and Shiba Inu. After all, most people have "nothing to hide". With US government cracking down on mixers, we should expect demand for privacy coins to decline over time. I wouldn't be surprised if governments (particularly the US) go as far as "banning" privacy coins from mainstream use.

GRIN is a good coin like Monero with a unique approach towards privacy and anonymity. If only it had the backing of mainstream investors, it would've gone to the moon by now. Fortunately, the core Blockchain network still works. As long as the community keeps it alive, nothing else matters. Cheesy
legendary
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April 19, 2024, 04:29:28 PM
#97
if you look at forum.grim.mw there's less trolling
As you would expect on a moderated Grin forum.

I just created a moderated Grin topic at [1] where one can also enjoy troll free Grin discussion...

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/grin-the-simplest-and-fairest-cryptocurrency-5493511
legendary
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April 19, 2024, 01:18:11 PM
#96
I think the people complaining here are not devs, just salty bagholders and trolls. I think if you look at forum.grim.mw there's less trolling
legendary
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Decentralization Maximalist
April 18, 2024, 03:47:31 PM
#95
I've been looking again a bit into the stats and currently they're quite bleak at the first glance. Google Trends searches are very low, even if there was a little bit more interest than in 2022/23 lately.



I however am not sure which could be the best search term here, but I think grin alone isn't enough.

Price has also unfortunately returned to the levels before the 2024 pump, hitting new lows when compared to Bitcoin. Here's a bit larger picture since the 2022 lows, including the important Grin/BTC chart:



For someone new to Grin like me it can look like "should I really buy that?", but it also could be an opportunity, knowing that Grin is truly a quite unique coin. I can imagine that a part of the recent price decrease is to a generally weak altcoin market, but also the decision of the Ironbelly developer to end development  (that seems to have been a mobile Grin app and was probably was MemurKafasi mentioned above) could have contributed. There seems to be some conflict in the community when reading the latest pages, and I don't really understand why, perhaps someone can enlighten me Smiley Reminds me a bit of Burstcoin (now Signum) also an interesting project but which lost traction due to continued conflict between the devs, followed by a rebranding which while it made sense could not revert the tendency until now.
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