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MemurKafasi

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Quote from: jwinterm on July 13, 2024, 10:15:31 AM

Quote from: MemurKafasi on July 13, 2024, 04:11:16 AM

Quote from: tromp on July 13, 2024, 02:03:10 AM

Quote from: MemurKafasi on July 12, 2024, 11:38:42 AM

Grin hashrate : 4:62 KGps Shocked

That's the graph rate. Each graph is defined by 2^33 (~8 billion) hashes.

you just nitpicking.
What matter is GPS or hashrate is ALL Time LOW.

G1 ASICs available generally, even directly from ipollo still recently I think. This still represents thousands of ASICs securing the chain as it is, but all time low hashrate means you get the most coins for the least work, so never been a better time to mine.

The price of Grin has dropped by 99.9 percent. Of the thousands of miners you mentioned, there is no sound. The company (iPollo), which spent tens of millions of dollars just for chip investment, gave no reaction.

somebodys know grin more than us, they without caring about the price, are waiting for the collapse of BTC after 2028 and the rise of Grin.

You are a gang. You have taken over Grin and are pulling all kinds of tricks. You have destroyed small investors. You have many BTC in your hands and you are comfortable.

The gang;
dont finish GUI wallets, does not respond to stock markets, closes Telegram channels and Twitter accounts, gives wrong codes to volunteer software developers, and does not fix the errors they find.

Now you can call me a "troll" and feel at ease.

MemurKafasi

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Quote from: tromp on July 13, 2024, 02:03:10 AM

Quote from: MemurKafasi on July 12, 2024, 11:38:42 AM

Grin hashrate : 4:62 KGps Shocked

That's the graph rate. Each graph is defined by 2^33 (~8 billion) hashes.

you just nitpicking.
What matter is GPS or hashrate is ALL Time LOW.

MemurKafasi

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Fair shit

Grin hashrate : 4:62 KGps Shocked

jwinterm

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Quote from: MemurKafasi on July 13, 2024, 04:11:16 AM

Quote from: tromp on July 13, 2024, 02:03:10 AM

Quote from: MemurKafasi on July 12, 2024, 11:38:42 AM

Grin hashrate : 4:62 KGps Shocked

That's the graph rate. Each graph is defined by 2^33 (~8 billion) hashes.

you just nitpicking.
What matter is GPS or hashrate is ALL Time LOW.

G1 ASICs available generally, even directly from ipollo still recently I think. This still represents thousands of ASICs securing the chain as it is, but all time low hashrate means you get the most coins for the least work, so never been a better time to mine.

tromp

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Quote from: MemurKafasi on July 12, 2024, 11:38:42 AM

Grin hashrate : 4:62 KGps Shocked

That's the graph rate. Each graph is defined by 2^33 (~8 billion) hashes.

jwinterm

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Quote from: MemurKafasi on July 12, 2024, 11:38:42 AM

Fair shit

Grin hashrate : 4:62 KGps Shocked

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Stayin’ Alive

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Happy freedom Day grinners

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Quote from: tromp on April 27, 2024, 02:52:36 AM

The chart at [1] compares privacy features (and scalability) of various coins. Zcash offers the most, but (like Monero) at significant cost in scalability.

[1] https://forum.grin.mw/t/scalability-vs-privacy-chart/8114

Zcash is a corporate coin (Electric Coin Company/ECC), so I wouldn't trust it. Not like Grin or Monero which are community-owned cryptocurrencies. I've read articles online claiming ZEC has a backdoor allowing governments to access sensitive info when they need to. That was during Zcash's initial days when it had a trusted setup. Developers removed the need for a trusted setup with recent network upgrades, but I'm still skeptical.

Good-old GRIN is a much better choice, imo. It's one of the early privacy coins that made use of "Mimblewimble". Just like BEAM. Litecoin even adopted GRIN's privacy tech in its core wallet software. If GRIN development continues, it could become a solid project like Monero. We need as much privacy coins as possible to help counter governments' efforts of taking down mixers for good. Who knows what the future of the crypto industry will be? Cheesy

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Very much so. Grin gang is still around and active with development. We're just playing with our highly scalable private by default currency with no addresses or amounts in peace.

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I didn't even say "fairly distributed" to be fair, just how do you make sure everyone has a chance to get some (fairly or unfairly I guess), and I used WorldCoin as one (bad) example. We only really know two ways to distribute coins afaik - mining and centralized distributor.

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Quote from: Abiky on April 26, 2024, 09:07:26 PM

Worldcoin? Isn't that the one created by Sam Altman (the founder of OpenAI)? I wouldn't call it a "privacy coin", especially when it used to collect biometric data from users.

He didn't claim it as a privacy coin, but as a fairly distributed coin. I strongly disagree however, since worldcoin founders can allocate arbitrary amounts to themselves, with or without making up fake identities.

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Not even the original Worldcoin project (with ticker WDC) has privacy features. Only GRIN and Monero have.

The chart at [1] compares privacy features (and scalability) of various coins. Zcash offers the most, but (like Monero) at significant cost in scalability.

[1] https://forum.grin.mw/t/scalability-vs-privacy-chart/8114

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Quote from: jwinterm on April 25, 2024, 08:41:15 PM

I think (or hope) that the recent actions, and oversteps, by the US govt will start to remind people why we are here in the first place, and we will see renewed interest in so called "privacy coins".

It was over three decades ago this was published:
https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html

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We the Cypherpunks are dedicated to building anonymous systems. We are defending our privacy with cryptography, with anonymous mail forwarding systems, with digital signatures, and with electronic money.

Cypherpunks write code. We know that someone has to write software to defend privacy, and since we can't get privacy unless we all do, we're going to write it. We publish our code so that our fellow Cypherpunks may practice and play with it. Our code is free for all to use, worldwide. We don't much care if you don't approve of the software we write. We know that software can't be destroyed and that a widely dispersed system can't be shut down.

Fifteen years after that and fifteen years before today, Satoshi launched the first widely dispersed electronic money system that can't be shut down. Ten years ago Monero launched and added significantly more anonymity to the mix. And five years ago Grin launched with an efficient and fairly private blockchain, but more importantly imo a significantly more fair distribution or emission curve.

How do you make sure everyone in the world has a chance to get some coin? The only two viable options on the market today seem to be grin and worldcoin Cheesy

Worldcoin? Isn't that the one created by Sam Altman (the founder of OpenAI)? I wouldn't call it a "privacy coin", especially when it used to collect biometric data from users. Not even the original Worldcoin project (with ticker WDC) has privacy features. Only GRIN and Monero have. They're considered the best privacy coins in the world. Monero has a larger community than GRIN because it's much older. It's also much more active in development and heavily-marketed across the web.

Despite that, GRIN is still going strong (even with declining interest in privacy coins among the general public). With mainstream governments getting stricter against crypto/Blockchain tech, I believe people will turn their attention to GRIN and the likes. It would only be a matter of time before this happens. Who knows how far will the GRIN project go? Cheesy

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I think (or hope) that the recent actions, and oversteps, by the US govt will start to remind people why we are here in the first place, and we will see renewed interest in so called "privacy coins".

It was over three decades ago this was published:
https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html

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We the Cypherpunks are dedicated to building anonymous systems. We are defending our privacy with cryptography, with anonymous mail forwarding systems, with digital signatures, and with electronic money.

Cypherpunks write code. We know that someone has to write software to defend privacy, and since we can't get privacy unless we all do, we're going to write it. We publish our code so that our fellow Cypherpunks may practice and play with it. Our code is free for all to use, worldwide. We don't much care if you don't approve of the software we write. We know that software can't be destroyed and that a widely dispersed system can't be shut down.

Fifteen years after that and fifteen years before today, Satoshi launched the first widely dispersed electronic money system that can't be shut down. Ten years ago Monero launched and added significantly more anonymity to the mix. And five years ago Grin launched with an efficient and fairly private blockchain, but more importantly imo a significantly more fair distribution or emission curve.

How do you make sure everyone in the world has a chance to get some coin? The only two viable options on the market today seem to be grin and worldcoin Cheesy

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Quote from: d5000 on April 18, 2024, 03:47:31 PM

I've been looking again a bit into the stats and currently they're quite bleak at the first glance. Google Trends searches are very low, even if there was a little bit more interest than in 2022/23 lately.

I however am not sure which could be the best search term here, but I think grin alone isn't enough.

Price has also unfortunately returned to the levels before the 2024 pump, hitting new lows when compared to Bitcoin. Here's a bit larger picture since the 2022 lows, including the important Grin/BTC chart:

For someone new to Grin like me it can look like "should I really buy that?", but it also could be an opportunity, knowing that Grin is truly a quite unique coin. I can imagine that a part of the recent price decrease is to a generally weak altcoin market, but also the decision of the Ironbelly developer to end development (that seems to have been a mobile Grin app and was probably was MemurKafasi mentioned above) could have contributed. There seems to be some conflict in the community when reading the latest pages, and I don't really understand why, perhaps someone can enlighten me

Reminds me a bit of Burstcoin (now Signum) also an interesting project but which lost traction due to continued conflict between the devs, followed by a rebranding which while it made sense could not revert the tendency until now.

Well, privacy coins aren't as popular as NFTs or even "meme" coins like Dogecoin and Shiba Inu. After all, most people have "nothing to hide". With US government cracking down on mixers, we should expect demand for privacy coins to decline over time. I wouldn't be surprised if governments (particularly the US) go as far as "banning" privacy coins from mainstream use.

GRIN is a good coin like Monero with a unique approach towards privacy and anonymity. If only it had the backing of mainstream investors, it would've gone to the moon by now. Fortunately, the core Blockchain network still works. As long as the community keeps it alive, nothing else matters. Cheesy

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Quote from: jwinterm on April 19, 2024, 01:18:11 PM

if you look at forum.grim.mw there's less trolling

As you would expect on a moderated Grin forum.

I just created a moderated Grin topic at [1] where one can also enjoy troll free Grin discussion...

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/grin-the-simplest-and-fairest-cryptocurrency-5493511

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I think the people complaining here are not devs, just salty bagholders and trolls. I think if you look at forum.grim.mw there's less trolling

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I've been looking again a bit into the stats and currently they're quite bleak at the first glance. Google Trends searches are very low, even if there was a little bit more interest than in 2022/23 lately.

I however am not sure which could be the best search term here, but I think grin alone isn't enough.

Price has also unfortunately returned to the levels before the 2024 pump, hitting new lows when compared to Bitcoin. Here's a bit larger picture since the 2022 lows, including the important Grin/BTC chart:

For someone new to Grin like me it can look like "should I really buy that?", but it also could be an opportunity, knowing that Grin is truly a quite unique coin. I can imagine that a part of the recent price decrease is to a generally weak altcoin market, but also the decision of the Ironbelly developer to end development (that seems to have been a mobile Grin app and was probably was MemurKafasi mentioned above) could have contributed. There seems to be some conflict in the community when reading the latest pages, and I don't really understand why, perhaps someone can enlighten me

Reminds me a bit of Burstcoin (now Signum) also an interesting project but which lost traction due to continued conflict between the devs, followed by a rebranding which while it made sense could not revert the tendency until now.

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Understanding the complexity of the crypto market is a very difficult task as market conditions can change at any time. As you deal with the current market situation because a few months back only red market could be seen. I think many people were able to make good profits during this period especially those who were holding bitcoin. Honestly the name sounds so weird to me that I've lost track of the best buys of many top altcoins. To get profit from crypto you have to invest so if you don't want to invest then you won't get profit.

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Quote from: Abiky on April 03, 2024, 11:34:58 AM

Quote from: o48o on March 27, 2024, 12:21:36 PM

Well there's always a choice. If we want btc or coins with anonymous transactions to go up in value, we need high liquidity and that happens by complying with regulations. If we want total freedom, or even anonymity we don't expect financial insitutions or centralized exchanges to deal with them.

And i totally get, how what i am saying is against whole early cryptopunk money ethos, but we have came a long way from the start, and laws are catching up with the people who are stealing cryptos. So cashing large amounts out in fiat money will become harder and will need good old money laundering in fiat money side.

I am assuming that you already know that if something doesn't have a blanket anonymity it doesn't mean it couldn't have privacy via ZK. And you probably know that is for everyone's best interest if our financial sector DLT complies with strict privacy laws in EU.

We have to decide whenever we want to please the regulators (at the cost of low privacy and limited freedom) or people's best interests. Bitcoin was created with a "cypherpunk vision" as an antithesis to Fiat (which is backed by corrupt banks and governments). The approval of spot ETFs and the institutionalization of crypto is definitely not a good sign. Even if that means higher market prices over the long term.

Was it always about making money? Or was it about making our world a better place? People seem to be missing the bigger picture. Many want to get rick quick, even if that means giving up their privacy and freedom. I see GRIN as a unique project not tied to the hands of "Wall Street", evil banks, governments, or corporations. Same goes with Monero. These coins may be hated by many, but they're our only escape route to government censorship and surveillance.

I'm fine with GRIN going down in market price, as long as the core Blockchain network remains actively developed and maintained by the community. Hopefully, decentralization will prevail in the long run.

i agree with totally. Except quick get rich scheme. If you look at hashrate and downward spiral price, some of them get quite RICH with insider info.

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