Is Gulden a good investment? - page 136.

Altcoinfanatic

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Quote from: DashNLG on March 13, 2017, 09:38:15 AM

Quote from: Altcoinfanatic on March 13, 2017, 09:21:49 AM

Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 13, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

That is very good aspect of Rijk. He should have integrity.
But is it true he dumped some of the premine (on the backs of new users) to sell shares?
Doesn't have the community have a say on this? That's dictatorial behavior. Its not his Gulden but ours. We could have a vote what happends with the premine and when and how much is being spent.
Otherwise he is no more different than the Rothchilds.

Why do you think that you have the right to determine what is happening with the premine? Is it your money? No, Gulden isn't yours but from Rijk. Rijk started Gulden and the premine is the funding capital of Gulden for developing it and it is to Rijk to determine what is happening with that amount of Gulden. As simple as that. It is not the community or group of people, only Rijk. The same applies to Slack, he invites whom he wants and removes whoever he wants, also very simple. If you do not like it, do not invest, Rijk is the dictator of Gulden and he and we didn't deny that. We believe in dictatorship in this Gulden community because someone has to take the decisions. When i want that a community is leading i was full in Bitcoin and you see what than is happening: nothing. A Crypto need someone who is the boss.

I am sorry. I thought the community had a say in this. I thought Gulden was a decentralised crypto. It seems like Gulden and Ripple are the same: Big premine and good development.
Can Rijk confirm the above? If so, then there was just a big misunderstanding.

Ripple is centralized and Gulden is decentralized. This Rijk fellow can't put a gun to your head and tell you how to use your Gulden. Bitcointalk, slack etc is a community platform where rules can be made and enforced. I don't see the problem?

Why is Ripple centralized and Gulden not? Rijk determines what happens with the premine.
Kwaasteniet already said it is not decentralised but centralised. Gulden is of Rijk not ours.

Slack same story. Only Rijk determines who can speak and who not.
He fled the #gezellig channel yesterday because it will hurt nietstemmers political party and the new users were asking him questions about this channel and now he can say: I am not on that channel.
He has a lot to explain to the new users now. Stop this moderation now!

Do you think it is nice for the new users that Rijk is not honest and had/have an inner circle channel? Plans were made here (when to dump, how much to dump, who to invite on meetings etc) in secret.
Do you think it is fair that Rijk dumped the premine on the back of the new users and not being honest about it? Dash has a wonderful government system. Where there is a treasury. People can actual vote on proposals. There is no dictator like Rijk in Dash.
It is very quite on #gezellig now, some DGB friends mentioned that they should rename it to #ongezellig

donnatello

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Quote from: KenChanYu on March 14, 2017, 03:48:01 AM

Why is no one talking about the real issue of this coin? It has nothing to do with the team personalities or skill but more supply by 20 000 every day after DELTA. You can have all skill in the world but increase supply daily will only see lower price. Dev team need to adjust reward to 80 or we will lower and lower price.

Why don't you go to the slack? Outsiders can only look and wonder. Cool

KenChanYu

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Why is no one talking about the real issue of this coin? It has nothing to do with the team personalities or skill but more supply by 20 000 every day after DELTA. You can have all skill in the world but increase supply daily will only see lower price. Dev team need to adjust reward to 80 or we will lower and lower price.

Barbarian

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Quote from: Gaster on March 13, 2017, 07:20:26 AM

Justice will come when the "Reputable Bitcoin forummember" finds out what the Gulden community is doing with his privacy, in particular 2 members and 1 of them is Rijk.
Shall I tell him?

"Reputable bitcoin forum member" - Is that like a virgin prostitute?

A few questions, why do you talk about yourself in the third person so much? why so many accounts, we all know that these accounts belong to the same person so why bother, who do you think you are fooling? Also don't you think it is a bit egotistical to keep calling yourself reputable?

Lol that is little over the top, I would have use hot ice as an analogy but I like yours better

gamersea

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It's sad to see all of you people wasting your time on endless discussions, knowing none of you will ever agree with each other.
I say, do your own due diligence on Gulden and then invest or don't. Cut the crap for once, be an adult, and try to have some intelligence conversation about the product itself.

DashNLG

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Quote from: Altcoinfanatic on March 13, 2017, 09:21:49 AM

Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 13, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

That is very good aspect of Rijk. He should have integrity.
But is it true he dumped some of the premine (on the backs of new users) to sell shares?
Doesn't have the community have a say on this? That's dictatorial behavior. Its not his Gulden but ours. We could have a vote what happends with the premine and when and how much is being spent.
Otherwise he is no more different than the Rothchilds.

Why do you think that you have the right to determine what is happening with the premine? Is it your money? No, Gulden isn't yours but from Rijk. Rijk started Gulden and the premine is the funding capital of Gulden for developing it and it is to Rijk to determine what is happening with that amount of Gulden. As simple as that. It is not the community or group of people, only Rijk. The same applies to Slack, he invites whom he wants and removes whoever he wants, also very simple. If you do not like it, do not invest, Rijk is the dictator of Gulden and he and we didn't deny that. We believe in dictatorship in this Gulden community because someone has to take the decisions. When i want that a community is leading i was full in Bitcoin and you see what than is happening: nothing. A Crypto need someone who is the boss.

I am sorry. I thought the community had a say in this. I thought Gulden was a decentralised crypto. It seems like Gulden and Ripple are the same: Big premine and good development.
Can Rijk confirm the above? If so, then there was just a big misunderstanding.

Ripple is centralized and Gulden is decentralized. This Rijk fellow can't put a gun to your head and tell you how to use your Gulden. Bitcointalk, slack etc is a community platform where rules can be made and enforced. I don't see the problem?

Altcoinfanatic

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Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 13, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

That is very good aspect of Rijk. He should have integrity.
But is it true he dumped some of the premine (on the backs of new users) to sell shares?
Doesn't have the community have a say on this? That's dictatorial behavior. Its not his Gulden but ours. We could have a vote what happends with the premine and when and how much is being spent.
Otherwise he is no more different than the Rothchilds.

Why do you think that you have the right to determine what is happening with the premine? Is it your money? No, Gulden isn't yours but from Rijk. Rijk started Gulden and the premine is the funding capital of Gulden for developing it and it is to Rijk to determine what is happening with that amount of Gulden. As simple as that. It is not the community or group of people, only Rijk. The same applies to Slack, he invites whom he wants and removes whoever he wants, also very simple. If you do not like it, do not invest, Rijk is the dictator of Gulden and he and we didn't deny that. We believe in dictatorship in this Gulden community because someone has to take the decisions. When i want that a community is leading i was full in Bitcoin and you see what than is happening: nothing. A Crypto need someone who is the boss.

I am sorry. I thought the community had a say in this. I thought Gulden was a decentralised crypto. It seems like Gulden and Ripple are the same: Big premine and good development.
Can Rijk confirm the above? If so, then there was just a big misunderstanding.

Dutchyyy

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Quote from: Zonefan on March 13, 2017, 08:20:23 AM

Quote from: donnatello on March 13, 2017, 08:00:24 AM

This thread has gone off-topic. Allow me to summarize.

Quote from: TwoRightsMakeARight on June 02, 2016, 07:02:27 AM

I didn't want to post this in the Gulden Announcement page to avoid bias opinions but wanted to know if Gulden is a safe bet compared to other alt coins. The reason I am asking is I noticed there ranking on coinmarketcap is way below other coins that have nothing going for them or is it that the other alt coins are way over priced?

Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 13, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

Why do you think that you have the right to determine what is happening with the premine? Is it your money? No, Gulden isn't yours but from Rijk. Rijk started Gulden and the premine is the funding capital of Gulden for developing it and it is to Rijk to determine what is happening with that amount of Gulden. As simple as that. It is not the community or group of people, only Rijk. The same applies to Slack, he invites whom he wants and removes whoever he wants, also very simple. If you do not like it, do not invest, Rijk is the dictator of Gulden and he and we didn't deny that. We believe in dictatorship in this Gulden community.

Now, it should be easy to do your research and make an investment decision. Very simple.

This is not a good coin if your a anarchist, i hate big government but Rijk is keeping his government small. He is not ruthless but does not want to be influenced in decisions. This can work because companies like facebook and twitter all have leaders. Steve Jobs is a good example of how I view Rijk.

Diversity is strength.

Gaster

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Quote from: wttbs on March 13, 2017, 08:08:29 AM

Quote from: Luuk on March 13, 2017, 07:52:53 AM

Quote from: Altcoinfanatic on March 13, 2017, 07:41:58 AM

Quote from: rkatz on March 10, 2017, 01:25:45 PM

This topic is turning in such a facepalm....

Let me ask you this; who do you trust more?

A): random anonymous people on the Internet
B): people that are clear about who they are

Don't be sheeple, do your own research and make your own assesment of Gulden and I'm certain that if you look at the facts vs it will show you whether you should invest.

For the people who are genuinely interested in the project do check out the developer blog and come say hi in the Gulden slack. We got nothing to hide..

Why so hypocrite rkatz?
Nothing to hide? Why is there an inner circle/secret channel called #gezellig on Slack?
All conversations in that channel is being distributed through screenshots by my DGB friends.
They were even being questioned by management and getting questions if they are passing info on.
The conversations in those screenshots are disgusting. You certainly are hiding things from the community.

I heard rumors that members of the old Binnenlandse Veiligheidsdienst are involved in Gulden, things are going to blow up fast.

I heard Gargamel made a potion which he put in the water that the Smurfs drink and now all Smurfs send their herstelzin to Gargamel and he stole all Gulden from the Smurfs Shocked

maybe Gargamel is the one on bittrex pumping and dumping Gulden the last few months.

Look what the cat dragged in.....
#2 voluntary came and makes the anti privacy party complete. Shocked

Zonefan

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Quote from: donnatello on March 13, 2017, 08:00:24 AM

This thread has gone off-topic. Allow me to summarize.

Quote from: TwoRightsMakeARight on June 02, 2016, 07:02:27 AM

I didn't want to post this in the Gulden Announcement page to avoid bias opinions but wanted to know if Gulden is a safe bet compared to other alt coins. The reason I am asking is I noticed there ranking on coinmarketcap is way below other coins that have nothing going for them or is it that the other alt coins are way over priced?

Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 13, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

Why do you think that you have the right to determine what is happening with the premine? Is it your money? No, Gulden isn't yours but from Rijk. Rijk started Gulden and the premine is the funding capital of Gulden for developing it and it is to Rijk to determine what is happening with that amount of Gulden. As simple as that. It is not the community or group of people, only Rijk. The same applies to Slack, he invites whom he wants and removes whoever he wants, also very simple. If you do not like it, do not invest, Rijk is the dictator of Gulden and he and we didn't deny that. We believe in dictatorship in this Gulden community.

Now, it should be easy to do your research and make an investment decision. Very simple.

This is not a good coin if your a anarchist, i hate big government but Rijk is keeping his government small. He is not ruthless but does not want to be influenced in decisions. This can work because companies like facebook and twitter all have leaders. Steve Jobs is a good example of how I view Rijk.

wttbs

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Quote from: Luuk on March 13, 2017, 07:52:53 AM

Quote from: Altcoinfanatic on March 13, 2017, 07:41:58 AM

Quote from: rkatz on March 10, 2017, 01:25:45 PM

This topic is turning in such a facepalm....

Let me ask you this; who do you trust more?

A): random anonymous people on the Internet
B): people that are clear about who they are

Don't be sheeple, do your own research and make your own assesment of Gulden and I'm certain that if you look at the facts vs it will show you whether you should invest.

For the people who are genuinely interested in the project do check out the developer blog and come say hi in the Gulden slack. We got nothing to hide..

Why so hypocrite rkatz?
Nothing to hide? Why is there an inner circle/secret channel called #gezellig on Slack?
All conversations in that channel is being distributed through screenshots by my DGB friends.
They were even being questioned by management and getting questions if they are passing info on.
The conversations in those screenshots are disgusting. You certainly are hiding things from the community.

I heard rumors that members of the old Binnenlandse Veiligheidsdienst are involved in Gulden, things are going to blow up fast.

I heard Gargamel made a potion which he put in the water that the Smurfs drink and now all Smurfs send their herstelzin to Gargamel and he stole all Gulden from the Smurfs Shocked

maybe Gargamel is the one on bittrex pumping and dumping Gulden the last few months.

donnatello

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This thread has gone off-topic. Allow me to summarize.

Quote from: TwoRightsMakeARight on June 02, 2016, 07:02:27 AM

I didn't want to post this in the Gulden Announcement page to avoid bias opinions but wanted to know if Gulden is a safe bet compared to other alt coins. The reason I am asking is I noticed there ranking on coinmarketcap is way below other coins that have nothing going for them or is it that the other alt coins are way over priced?

Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 13, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

Why do you think that you have the right to determine what is happening with the premine? Is it your money? No, Gulden isn't yours but from Rijk. Rijk started Gulden and the premine is the funding capital of Gulden for developing it and it is to Rijk to determine what is happening with that amount of Gulden. As simple as that. It is not the community or group of people, only Rijk. The same applies to Slack, he invites whom he wants and removes whoever he wants, also very simple. If you do not like it, do not invest, Rijk is the dictator of Gulden and he and we didn't deny that. We believe in dictatorship in this Gulden community.

Now, it should be easy to do your research and make an investment decision. Very simple.

Luuk

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Quote from: Altcoinfanatic on March 13, 2017, 07:41:58 AM

Quote from: rkatz on March 10, 2017, 01:25:45 PM

This topic is turning in such a facepalm....

Let me ask you this; who do you trust more?

A): random anonymous people on the Internet
B): people that are clear about who they are

Don't be sheeple, do your own research and make your own assesment of Gulden and I'm certain that if you look at the facts vs it will show you whether you should invest.

For the people who are genuinely interested in the project do check out the developer blog and come say hi in the Gulden slack. We got nothing to hide..

Why so hypocrite rkatz?
Nothing to hide? Why is there an inner circle/secret channel called #gezellig on Slack?
All conversations in that channel is being distributed through screenshots by my DGB friends.
They were even being questioned by management and getting questions if they are passing info on.
The conversations in those screenshots are disgusting. You certainly are hiding things from the community.

I heard rumors that members of the old Binnenlandse Veiligheidsdienst are involved in Gulden, things are going to blow up fast.

somogyipeti

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Quote from: Litesire on March 12, 2017, 12:15:26 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: RodgerRabbit on March 12, 2017, 08:29:33 AM

The dev team is on slack everyday to answer questions. Ninja turtles and fanatics are banned rather quickly

Here I am again, to deflect against attacks. Fanboys and shills just don't know when to quit.

The truth is: you may spot something not quite true, not quite right, not quite convenient. Trouble starts if you dare to mention it. Depending on the time of day, the fanboys will all jump on you, or Rijk, Jeroen and gang will stonewall you with spin, or BOOM you're out. If you just read what's on slack, EVERYTHING is fine and dandy. It's all cleaned up with a vengeance.

The truth is: the slack primarily serves to advance the financial interests of Rijk Plasman and feed his ego. If you visit various slacks and forums, you quickly see where the NLG slack stands.

Maybe you can get SOME unbiased information from NLG slack. There remains a statistical possibility, I'll admit that.

If you want to base your investment strategy on what you get from the slack, well, it's your money.

I bought my first Gulden at 120 Satoshi , today it's 1650 sat with a higher bitcoin price. This coin has served me well and my portfolio in the long term continues to grow.

The development team constantly delivers on the projects they say they are doing. You come here and trash the one project that keeps on delivering? I bet you are collecting as much Gulden as you can and hoping someone buys into your BS.

I have a theory these attacks are being perpetrated due to the PRIME I project and you nitpickIng at thin air.

I am also a fanboy and will continue to be. Deal with it!

Nice long term strategy.

Altcoinfanatic

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Quote from: rkatz on March 10, 2017, 01:25:45 PM

This topic is turning in such a facepalm....

Let me ask you this; who do you trust more?

A): random anonymous people on the Internet
B): people that are clear about who they are

Don't be sheeple, do your own research and make your own assesment of Gulden and I'm certain that if you look at the facts vs it will show you whether you should invest.

For the people who are genuinely interested in the project do check out the developer blog and come say hi in the Gulden slack. We got nothing to hide..

Why so hypocrite rkatz?
Nothing to hide? Why is there an inner circle/secret channel called #gezellig on Slack?
All conversations in that channel is being distributed through screenshots by my DGB friends.
They were even being questioned by management and getting questions if they are passing info on.
The conversations in those screenshots are disgusting. You certainly are hiding things from the community.

kwaasteniet

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Quote from: ?? on ??

That is very good aspect of Rijk. He should have integrity.
But is it true he dumped some of the premine (on the backs of new users) to sell shares?
Doesn't have the community have a say on this? That's dictatorial behavior. Its not his Gulden but ours. We could have a vote what happends with the premine and when and how much is being spent.
Otherwise he is no more different than the Rothchilds.

Why do you think that you have the right to determine what is happening with the premine? Is it your money? No, Gulden isn't yours but from Rijk. Rijk started Gulden and the premine is the funding capital of Gulden for developing it and it is to Rijk to determine what is happening with that amount of Gulden. As simple as that. It is not the community or group of people, only Rijk. The same applies to Slack, he invites whom he wants and removes whoever he wants, also very simple. If you do not like it, do not invest, Rijk is the dictator of Gulden and he and we didn't deny that. We believe in dictatorship in this Gulden community because someone has to take the decisions. When i want that a community is leading i was full in Bitcoin and you see what than is happening: nothing. A Crypto need someone who is the boss.

Gaster

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Quote from: RodgerRabbit on March 13, 2017, 07:09:16 AM

Quote from: rkatz on March 13, 2017, 06:25:06 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: RodgerRabbit on March 12, 2017, 08:29:33 AM

Quote from: cryptogasm on March 12, 2017, 07:31:15 AM

Did anyone check on the Dev team?

The dev team is on slack everyday to ~~answer questions~~ moderate.

Fixed

piss off; you can be polite and access the slack and just be a normal member who is not trying to push his personal agenda or you can stay here and keep whining. How about the first one and you behave this time?

BCT: whine about everything, push your own believes and disqualify other opinions because they don't fit your personal believes... Despicable!

Do I need to mention that most people whining here still hold NLG... 🤣

Edit; imagine all this energy from people going into promotion for the coin...

SJWs is a cult that is being dealt with on slack very effectively. On slack we only have Justice.

Justice will come when the "Reputable Bitcoin forummember" finds out what the Gulden community is doing with his privacy, in particular 2 members and 1 of them is Rijk.
Shall I tell him?

RodgerRabbit

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Quote from: rkatz on March 13, 2017, 06:25:06 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: RodgerRabbit on March 12, 2017, 08:29:33 AM

Quote from: cryptogasm on March 12, 2017, 07:31:15 AM

Did anyone check on the Dev team?

The dev team is on slack everyday to ~~answer questions~~ moderate.

Fixed

piss off; you can be polite and access the slack and just be a normal member who is not trying to push his personal agenda or you can stay here and keep whining. How about the first one and you behave this time?

BCT: whine about everything, push your own believes and disqualify other opinions because they don't fit your personal believes... Despicable!

Do I need to mention that most people whining here still hold NLG... 🤣

Edit; imagine all this energy from people going into promotion for the coin...

SJWs is a cult that is being dealt with on slack very effectively. On slack we only have Justice.

donnatello

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Quote from: RodgerRabbit on March 13, 2017, 01:21:08 AM

Quote from: donnatello on March 12, 2017, 09:44:48 PM

Quote from: RodgerRabbit on March 12, 2017, 09:40:59 PM

Sometimes you have to lay a trap to catch the snake. Bitcointalkleaks .

I don't know gaster, but be careful what you catch. Don't lay a mousetrap for a bear.

A bear with power on bitcointalk easily reveals himself but this is a Dutch bear not a Russian bear that will bring down bitcointalk if abuse of power is used. What a fine day that will be.

When you realise you not the most psychotic person in the house you resort to dirty tactics to beat your foes, but who cares it's just bitcointalk.

You're not making any sense. Too much beer?

rkatz

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: RodgerRabbit on March 12, 2017, 08:29:33 AM

Quote from: cryptogasm on March 12, 2017, 07:31:15 AM

Did anyone check on the Dev team?

The dev team is on slack everyday to ~~answer questions~~ moderate.

Fixed

piss off; you can be polite and access the slack and just be a normal member who is not trying to push his personal agenda or you can stay here and keep whining. How about the first one and you behave this time?

BCT: whine about everything, push your own believes and disqualify other opinions because they don't fit your personal believes... Despicable!

Do I need to mention that most people whining here still hold NLG... 🤣

Edit; imagine all this energy from people going into promotion for the coin...

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