Is Gulden a good investment? - page 139.

Gaster

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Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 11, 2017, 05:12:58 AM

Quote from: Gaster on March 11, 2017, 04:25:53 AM

They (Rijk) sold over 17 Million PREMINE Gulden with their Gulden shares, which results in more than 500 BTC for funding the devs.
So if Rijk does not spend it on booze and hookers, they can fund the development for a long time.

Only thing is, nobody knows which bitcoin address contains the funds of the sold Premine thus the 500+BTC are free to spend for Rijk.
He could use it for pumping the Gulden value, for funding Niet Stemmers.nl, for funding his lifestyle, for the Plasmans wealth fund (own pocket).
We will never know because lack of transparency.

But more transparency will never satisfies you, i think.
Why is 500+BTC more worse than 17 Million NLG? I don't get it. But for your sake here is an BTC address only the last characters is missing. Than have you something to puzzle
12sapMKghAPbNDucwAGv3t9fnHQuwzivY*
Transparent enough? I don't think so

12sapMKghAPbNDucwAGv3t9fnHQuwzivYP

kwaasteniet

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Quote from: Gaster on March 11, 2017, 04:25:53 AM

They (Rijk) sold over 17 Million PREMINE Gulden with their Gulden shares, which results in more than 500 BTC for funding the devs.
So if Rijk does not spend it on booze and hookers, they can fund the development for a long time.

Only thing is, nobody knows which bitcoin address contains the funds of the sold Premine thus the 500+BTC are free to spend for Rijk.
He could use it for pumping the Gulden value, for funding Niet Stemmers.nl, for funding his lifestyle, for the Plasmans wealth fund (own pocket).
We will never know because lack of transparency.

But more transparency will never satisfies you, i think.
Why is 500+BTC more worse than 17 Million NLG? I don't get it. But for your sake here is an BTC address only the last characters is missing. Than have you something to puzzle
12sapMKghAPbNDucwAGv3t9fnHQuwzivY*
Transparent enough? I don't think so

investeerder

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Quote from: Gaster on March 11, 2017, 04:54:51 AM

Quote from: investeerder on March 11, 2017, 04:39:14 AM

Quote from: Gaster on March 11, 2017, 04:25:53 AM

Quote from: DGBforver on March 11, 2017, 03:49:10 AM

Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 10, 2017, 03:59:40 PM

Who are talking in this Gulden topic?

It seem to be that this Gulden topic is visited by People that only want to hurt Gulden. What are they doing in their last 20 postings

Donatello: 3 Synero topic postings and 1 Stratis topic and 16 Gulden topic FUD,
Gaster: newbie, 4 posts, 4 Gulden topic FUD
Altcoinfanatic: 5 DGB ANN postings, 2 Viacoin, 13 Gulden Topic FUD
Danslip: 6 DGB ANN postings, 2 Myriadcoin ANN posting, 12 Gulden topic FUD
Dutchyyy: 20 Gulden topic FUD

What a hate and frustration to Gulden, It looks like the most hateful people came from DGB Grin

Enjoy your South African slaves but when the funding runs out don't come crawling to us for help.

They (Rijk) sold over 17 Million PREMINE Gulden with their Gulden shares, which results in more than 500 BTC for funding the devs.
So if Rijk does not spend it on booze and hookers, they can fund the development for a long time.

Only thing is, nobody knows which bitcoin address contains the funds of the sold Premine thus the 500+BTC are free to spend for Rijk.
He could use it for pumping the Gulden value, for funding Niet Stemmers.nl, for funding his lifestyle, for the Plasmans wealth fund (own pocket).
We will never know because lack of transparency.

Don't give these people any of your savings, use your mind Wink

From Graster with love 💔

You won't know if he is funding his political party or if the purpose of Gulden was to funnel funding to his party. You can only measure the development that has been done and this is transparent.

Is there any proof that when the party was formed that the premine was no longer transparent?

The Premine Gulden addresses are transparent, only the sold premine to fund the development through their Gulden shares are not transparent, meaning that the BTC (over 500 btc) raised through this structure are not public, only Rijk knows where the BTC are spend and on what.

The community must wait until the Prime development is completed before carrying on with funding. That will be proof enough for most people that the funding is being put to good use.

Gaster

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Quote from: investeerder on March 11, 2017, 04:39:14 AM

Quote from: Gaster on March 11, 2017, 04:25:53 AM

Quote from: DGBforver on March 11, 2017, 03:49:10 AM

Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 10, 2017, 03:59:40 PM

Who are talking in this Gulden topic?

It seem to be that this Gulden topic is visited by People that only want to hurt Gulden. What are they doing in their last 20 postings

Donatello: 3 Synero topic postings and 1 Stratis topic and 16 Gulden topic FUD,
Gaster: newbie, 4 posts, 4 Gulden topic FUD
Altcoinfanatic: 5 DGB ANN postings, 2 Viacoin, 13 Gulden Topic FUD
Danslip: 6 DGB ANN postings, 2 Myriadcoin ANN posting, 12 Gulden topic FUD
Dutchyyy: 20 Gulden topic FUD

What a hate and frustration to Gulden, It looks like the most hateful people came from DGB Grin

Enjoy your South African slaves but when the funding runs out don't come crawling to us for help.

They (Rijk) sold over 17 Million PREMINE Gulden with their Gulden shares, which results in more than 500 BTC for funding the devs.
So if Rijk does not spend it on booze and hookers, they can fund the development for a long time.

Only thing is, nobody knows which bitcoin address contains the funds of the sold Premine thus the 500+BTC are free to spend for Rijk.
He could use it for pumping the Gulden value, for funding Niet Stemmers.nl, for funding his lifestyle, for the Plasmans wealth fund (own pocket).
We will never know because lack of transparency.

Don't give these people any of your savings, use your mind Wink

From Graster with love 💔

You won't know if he is funding his political party or if the purpose of Gulden was to funnel funding to his party. You can only measure the development that has been done and this is transparent.

Is there any proof that when the party was formed that the premine was no longer transparent?

The Premine Gulden addresses are transparent, only the sold premine to fund the development through their Gulden shares are not transparent, meaning that the BTC (over 500 btc) raised through this structure are not public, only Rijk knows where the BTC are spend and on what.

investeerder

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Activity: 322

Merit: 250

Quote from: Gaster on March 11, 2017, 04:25:53 AM

Quote from: DGBforver on March 11, 2017, 03:49:10 AM

Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 10, 2017, 03:59:40 PM

Who are talking in this Gulden topic?

It seem to be that this Gulden topic is visited by People that only want to hurt Gulden. What are they doing in their last 20 postings

Donatello: 3 Synero topic postings and 1 Stratis topic and 16 Gulden topic FUD,
Gaster: newbie, 4 posts, 4 Gulden topic FUD
Altcoinfanatic: 5 DGB ANN postings, 2 Viacoin, 13 Gulden Topic FUD
Danslip: 6 DGB ANN postings, 2 Myriadcoin ANN posting, 12 Gulden topic FUD
Dutchyyy: 20 Gulden topic FUD

What a hate and frustration to Gulden, It looks like the most hateful people came from DGB Grin

Enjoy your South African slaves but when the funding runs out don't come crawling to us for help.

They (Rijk) sold over 17 Million PREMINE Gulden with their Gulden shares, which results in more than 500 BTC for funding the devs.
So if Rijk does not spend it on booze and hookers, they can fund the development for a long time.

Only thing is, nobody knows which bitcoin address contains the funds of the sold Premine thus the 500+BTC are free to spend for Rijk.
He could use it for pumping the Gulden value, for funding Niet Stemmers.nl, for funding his lifestyle, for the Plasmans wealth fund (own pocket).
We will never know because lack of transparency.

Don't give these people any of your savings, use your mind Wink

From Graster with love 💔

You won't know if he is funding his political party or if the purpose of Gulden was to funnel funding to his party. You can only measure the development that has been done and this is transparent.

Is there any proof that when the party was formed that the premine was no longer transparent?

Gaster

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Activity: 42

Merit: 0

Quote from: DGBforver on March 11, 2017, 03:49:10 AM

Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 10, 2017, 03:59:40 PM

Who are talking in this Gulden topic?

It seem to be that this Gulden topic is visited by People that only want to hurt Gulden. What are they doing in their last 20 postings

Donatello: 3 Synero topic postings and 1 Stratis topic and 16 Gulden topic FUD,
Gaster: newbie, 4 posts, 4 Gulden topic FUD
Altcoinfanatic: 5 DGB ANN postings, 2 Viacoin, 13 Gulden Topic FUD
Danslip: 6 DGB ANN postings, 2 Myriadcoin ANN posting, 12 Gulden topic FUD
Dutchyyy: 20 Gulden topic FUD

What a hate and frustration to Gulden, It looks like the most hateful people came from DGB Grin

Enjoy your South African slaves but when the funding runs out don't come crawling to us for help.

They (Rijk) sold over 17 Million PREMINE Gulden with their Gulden shares, which results in more than 500 BTC for funding the devs.
So if Rijk does not spend it on booze and hookers, they can fund the development for a long time.

Only thing is, nobody knows which bitcoin address contains the funds of the sold Premine thus the 500+BTC are free to spend for Rijk.
He could use it for pumping the Gulden value, for funding Niet Stemmers.nl, for funding his lifestyle, for the Plasmans wealth fund (own pocket).
We will never know because lack of transparency.

Don't give these people any of your savings, use your mind Wink

From Graster with love 💔

kwaasteniet

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Activity: 924

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Quote from: Fantum on March 11, 2017, 04:22:40 AM

So is Gulden a good investment or not?

Yes, of course. We have some hateful people around us, as you can see, but also about 40.000 real users

Fantum

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So is Gulden a good investment or not?

danijel

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Quote from: donnatello on March 10, 2017, 10:42:08 PM

Quote from: danijel on March 10, 2017, 10:28:07 PM

I was right then ,you are a TROLL.
A troll with big problems in his head.
Grin

Quote from: danijel on November 15, 2016, 05:19:19 AM

trollolo

you CAN'T buy under 3000sat never ever aggain haha Grin

Quote from: danijel on January 06, 2017, 03:00:56 AM

haha,Gravitate.Just don\t be scared.Trackcoins or coins trac is a fuder,troll.scumbag and I can continiou with bad names.His purpos is only to make people scared.
I invest in the past to mycelium,Lisk,Steem,Stratis.Non of them show me the results so I sell everything and I stick by Gulden.
I regret what I lost by those coins but I do not regret that I still HODL my stash of Gulden.I buy G whenever I can,why??
Becouse Gulden team dont't promise,thay do their job and they deliver.If I have some problems with the wallet they help imidiatly .
And it will be even beter when PRIME 1 and PRIME 2 are coming out ,so my advise to you and all of the others who ouwn Gulden's is ...just HODL them for a 6-10 month ,and then you will see that Gulden is realy real thing and not some scam or whatever you would call it.
Gulden is the future .

Anything intelligent to say, fanboy? You failed your school in Serbia? Did your mother forget to feed you? Dumb-fucks like you are the reason NLG is slipping away. Most Dutch people have been to school. They see through your school-boy shit. It scares away buyers who want to spend more than pocket money.

Keep trolling this investment thread. Keep "helping". I'll serve you the same crap you dish out. It will be my pleasure. If you provoke me to air your dirty laundry here and show NLG's weakness, it will be your own fucking fault. Rijk Plasman won't be able to delete your posts. He'll be so pleased with you.

hehehe,you are funny creature Grin

kwaasteniet

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Activity: 924

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Quote from: DGBforver on March 11, 2017, 03:49:10 AM

Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 10, 2017, 03:59:40 PM

Who are talking in this Gulden topic?

It seem to be that this Gulden topic is visited by People that only want to hurt Gulden. What are they doing in their last 20 postings

Donatello: 3 Synero topic postings and 1 Stratis topic and 16 Gulden topic FUD,
Gaster: newbie, 4 posts, 4 Gulden topic FUD
Altcoinfanatic: 5 DGB ANN postings, 2 Viacoin, 13 Gulden Topic FUD
Danslip: 6 DGB ANN postings, 2 Myriadcoin ANN posting, 12 Gulden topic FUD
Dutchyyy: 20 Gulden topic FUD

What a hate and frustration to Gulden, It looks like the most hateful people came from DGB Grin

Enjoy your South African slaves but when the funding runs out don't come crawling to us for help.

Don't worry DGBnever

By the way your score is:
3 DGB ANN postings, 4 Myriad ANN postings and 13 Gulden FUD postings.

DGBforver

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Quote from: kwaasteniet on March 10, 2017, 03:59:40 PM

Who are talking in this Gulden topic?

It seem to be that this Gulden topic is visited by People that only want to hurt Gulden. What are they doing in their last 20 postings

Donatello: 3 Synero topic postings and 1 Stratis topic and 16 Gulden topic FUD,
Gaster: newbie, 4 posts, 4 Gulden topic FUD
Altcoinfanatic: 5 DGB ANN postings, 2 Viacoin, 13 Gulden Topic FUD
Danslip: 6 DGB ANN postings, 2 Myriadcoin ANN posting, 12 Gulden topic FUD
Dutchyyy: 20 Gulden topic FUD

What a hate and frustration to Gulden, It looks like the most hateful people came from DGB Grin

Enjoy your South African slaves but when the funding runs out don't come crawling to us for help.

ProfessorJim

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I don't want to tell people what to do or how to run their business but I think this Dutch currency has a real chance to breakout.

The Millennials in the USA are a lot more sensitive and offended then previous generations and you need to treat them differently.

Instead of kicking people out of slack, create a safe space area where you can discuss issues with them and if your about to say something offensive, issue a trigger warning and inform them that what you about to say might offend you. This will go a long way to pleasing everyone, some food for thought.

donnatello

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Quote from: Dutchyyy on March 11, 2017, 12:54:09 AM

Are you voting Geert or Rutte? It would be good for Gulden if the Plasman's get some power?

I'm not Dutch. Nobody dares to make a prediction. Some shill posted on slack that a certain result will favor NLG because of "semantic" association with the old Gulden. That is pure shill.

Quote from: Bluestreet on March 11, 2017, 01:07:10 AM

12 year olds can vote in Holland?

Hero? Really? Looking at your old posts, another 100% shill. An accomplished ass-licker.

Bluestreet

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Quote from: Dutchyyy on March 11, 2017, 12:54:09 AM

Quote from: donnatello on March 10, 2017, 10:42:08 PM

Quote from: danijel on March 10, 2017, 10:28:07 PM

I was right then ,you are a TROLL.
A troll with big problems in his head.
Grin

Quote from: danijel on November 15, 2016, 05:19:19 AM

trollolo

you CAN'T buy under 3000sat never ever aggain haha Grin

Quote from: danijel on January 06, 2017, 03:00:56 AM

haha,Gravitate.Just don\t be scared.Trackcoins or coins trac is a fuder,troll.scumbag and I can continiou with bad names.His purpos is only to make people scared.
I invest in the past to mycelium,Lisk,Steem,Stratis.Non of them show me the results so I sell everything and I stick by Gulden.
I regret what I lost by those coins but I do not regret that I still HODL my stash of Gulden.I buy G whenever I can,why??
Becouse Gulden team dont't promise,thay do their job and they deliver.If I have some problems with the wallet they help imidiatly .
And it will be even beter when PRIME 1 and PRIME 2 are coming out ,so my advise to you and all of the others who ouwn Gulden's is ...just HODL them for a 6-10 month ,and then you will see that Gulden is realy real thing and not some scam or whatever you would call it.
Gulden is the future .

Anything intelligent to say, fanboy? You failed your school in Serbia? Did your mother forget to feed you? Dumb-fucks like you are the reason NLG is slipping away. Most Dutch people have been to school. They see through your school-boy shit. It scares away buyers who want to spend more than pocket money.

Keep trolling this investment thread. Keep "helping". I'll serve you the same crap you dish out. It will be my pleasure. If you provoke me to air your dirty laundry here and show NLG's weakness, it will be your own fucking fault. Rijk Plasman won't be able to delete your posts. He'll be so pleased with you.

Are you voting Geert or Rutte? It would be good for Gulden if the Plasman's get some power?

12 year olds can vote in Holland?

Dutchyyy

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Activity: 1197

Merit: 1001

Quote from: donnatello on March 10, 2017, 10:42:08 PM

Quote from: danijel on March 10, 2017, 10:28:07 PM

I was right then ,you are a TROLL.
A troll with big problems in his head.
Grin

Quote from: danijel on November 15, 2016, 05:19:19 AM

trollolo

you CAN'T buy under 3000sat never ever aggain haha Grin

Quote from: danijel on January 06, 2017, 03:00:56 AM

haha,Gravitate.Just don\t be scared.Trackcoins or coins trac is a fuder,troll.scumbag and I can continiou with bad names.His purpos is only to make people scared.
I invest in the past to mycelium,Lisk,Steem,Stratis.Non of them show me the results so I sell everything and I stick by Gulden.
I regret what I lost by those coins but I do not regret that I still HODL my stash of Gulden.I buy G whenever I can,why??
Becouse Gulden team dont't promise,thay do their job and they deliver.If I have some problems with the wallet they help imidiatly .
And it will be even beter when PRIME 1 and PRIME 2 are coming out ,so my advise to you and all of the others who ouwn Gulden's is ...just HODL them for a 6-10 month ,and then you will see that Gulden is realy real thing and not some scam or whatever you would call it.
Gulden is the future .

Anything intelligent to say, fanboy? You failed your school in Serbia? Did your mother forget to feed you? Dumb-fucks like you are the reason NLG is slipping away. Most Dutch people have been to school. They see through your school-boy shit. It scares away buyers who want to spend more than pocket money.

Keep trolling this investment thread. Keep "helping". I'll serve you the same crap you dish out. It will be my pleasure. If you provoke me to air your dirty laundry here and show NLG's weakness, it will be your own fucking fault. Rijk Plasman won't be able to delete your posts. He'll be so pleased with you.

Are you voting Geert or Rutte? It would be good for Gulden if the Plasman's get some power?

donnatello

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Activity: 338

Merit: 101

Quote from: danijel on March 10, 2017, 10:28:07 PM

I was right then ,you are a TROLL.
A troll with big problems in his head.
Grin

Quote from: danijel on November 15, 2016, 05:19:19 AM

trollolo

you CAN'T buy under 3000sat never ever aggain haha Grin

Quote from: danijel on January 06, 2017, 03:00:56 AM

haha,Gravitate.Just don\t be scared.Trackcoins or coins trac is a fuder,troll.scumbag and I can continiou with bad names.His purpos is only to make people scared.
I invest in the past to mycelium,Lisk,Steem,Stratis.Non of them show me the results so I sell everything and I stick by Gulden.
I regret what I lost by those coins but I do not regret that I still HODL my stash of Gulden.I buy G whenever I can,why??
Becouse Gulden team dont't promise,thay do their job and they deliver.If I have some problems with the wallet they help imidiatly .
And it will be even beter when PRIME 1 and PRIME 2 are coming out ,so my advise to you and all of the others who ouwn Gulden's is ...just HODL them for a 6-10 month ,and then you will see that Gulden is realy real thing and not some scam or whatever you would call it.
Gulden is the future .

Anything intelligent to say, fanboy? You failed your school in Serbia? Did your mother forget to feed you? Dumb-fucks like you are the reason NLG is slipping away. Most Dutch people have been to school. They see through your school-boy shit. It scares away buyers who want to spend more than pocket money.

Keep trolling this investment thread. Keep "helping". I'll serve you the same crap you dish out. It will be my pleasure. If you provoke me to air your dirty laundry here and show NLG's weakness, it will be your own fucking fault. Rijk Plasman won't be able to delete your posts. He'll be so pleased with you.

danijel

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Activity: 83

Merit: 10

Quote from: donnatello on March 10, 2017, 08:11:18 PM

Quote from: danijel on March 10, 2017, 08:07:28 PM

hey Donnatello
what is your problem?Maybee you should visit a psych.It will help ,you know.
or you use some strange drugs??
When I see how you talk to the people and how you use bad language .............
......well than I can conclude that your IQ is not very high.
please ,just go away or visit a psych and then come back. Grin

Ah, another NLG slacker. Welcome, welcome. Why are all of you coming here now instead of your palace? Truth starting to hurt?

I remember some of your trolling. You were one rude asshole. You were so rude, in fact, that even though you're a fucking fanboy Rijk had to delete your trolling of me.

Oh, I've tested my IQ before. I was in MENSA. Why this pre-occupation with IQ? Are you the same shill posting under the account RodgerRabbit?

I'm not going anywhere. This is a free forum. Not your slack.

If more NLG slackers come out here, just beware. You might just bring NLG down with your ignorance because here people can countercheck what you are saying and your "helping" NLG will have the opposite effect. You will provoke inconvenient but correct observations that will not be deleted, then people can find it on the internet.

I wish you guys would change. That would really lift NLG, if you're wise.

I was right then ,you are a TROLL.
A troll with big problems in his head.
Grin

donnatello

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I don't care much for the circle jerking that takes place on slack , but the lack of marketing is the main reason this coin is in the dumps.

Clearly something has to change.

donnatello

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Activity: 338

Merit: 101

Quote from: danijel on March 10, 2017, 08:07:28 PM

hey Donnatello
what is your problem?Maybee you should visit a psych.It will help ,you know.
or you use some strange drugs??
When I see how you talk to the people and how you use bad language .............
......well than I can conclude that your IQ is not very high.
please ,just go away or visit a psych and then come back. Grin

Ah, another NLG slacker. Welcome, welcome. Why are all of you coming here now instead of your palace? Truth starting to hurt?

I remember some of your trolling. You were one rude asshole. You were so rude, in fact, that even though you're a fucking fanboy Rijk had to delete your trolling of me.

Oh, I've tested my IQ before. I was in MENSA. Why this pre-occupation with IQ? Are you the same shill posting under the account RodgerRabbit?

I'm not going anywhere. This is a free forum. Not your slack.

If more NLG slackers come out here, just beware. You might just bring NLG down with your ignorance because here people can countercheck what you are saying and your "helping" NLG will have the opposite effect. You will provoke inconvenient but correct observations that will not be deleted, then people can find it on the internet.

I wish you guys would change. That would really lift NLG, if you're wise.

danijel

member

Activity: 83

Merit: 10

hey Donnatello
what is your problem?Maybee you should visit a psych.It will help ,you know.
or you use some strange drugs??
When I see how you talk to the people and how you use bad language .............
......well than I can conclude that your IQ is not very high.
please ,just go away or visit a psych and then come back. Grin

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