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legendary
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January 19, 2016, 01:01:43 PM
I'll pay that, 90% of our population resides in those major cities so "universal" is a bit of misnomer in that context.

So you see? That is all I was trying to make you understand, a strong image may sometime trigger a simple reality.


 Wink
No I certainly can't pay you, you made up the bit about me saying 'civilised' which has a very different meaning from 'developed'.  I'd call that posting in bad faith.  So, if your point is the same as the bryant.coleman's, do you think that  America has the same geographical restraints in terms of providing a universal health system? Or is the real reason something more pedestrian ie: that you think that it costs too much in extra tax?


In a nutshell:
When you have a car insurance it works perfectly across state lines in the US. Healthcare should be the same and let the free market and competition bring the price down to everyone, but the lobby does not want this to happen. 0bamacare did not fix this, made it worse to everyone.

That is why clinton is loved by the 0bamacare lobby and the wall street lobby.

 Smiley

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January 19, 2016, 10:17:02 AM
Before Bill Clinton was President, Hillary Clinton opened some kind of a trading account, options or commodities etc. She invested $1000 and in one day made $100.000 and closed the account. The reason for her incredible ability to pick stocks was never divulged.
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January 19, 2016, 09:11:03 AM
I'll pay that, 90% of our population resides in those major cities so "universal" is a bit of misnomer in that context.

So you see? That is all I was trying to make you understand, a strong image may sometime trigger a simple reality.


 Wink
No I certainly can't pay you, you made up the bit about me saying 'civilised' which has a very different meaning from 'developed'.  I'd call that posting in bad faith.  So, if your point is the same as the bryant.coleman's, do you think that  America has the same geographical restraints in terms of providing a universal health system? Or is the real reason something more pedestrian ie: that you think that it costs too much in extra tax?
legendary
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January 19, 2016, 08:33:16 AM
I'll pay that, 90% of our population resides in those major cities so "universal" is a bit of misnomer in that context.

So you see? That is all I was trying to make you understand, a strong image may sometime trigger a simple reality.


 Wink


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January 18, 2016, 10:10:29 PM
I'll pay that, 90% of our population resides in those major cities so "universal" is a bit of misnomer in that context.
legendary
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January 18, 2016, 09:52:20 PM
No need for a United States vs Australia fight here. With the exception of the major cities such as Brisbane, Sydney, Perth and Melbourne, the healthcare situation in Australia is worse than that in developing nations such as Malaysia and Thailand. And most of the (unassimilated) aborigines live in the remote villages in the outback, where there are hardly any healthcare facilities.

That said, I can't deny the fact that healthcare in the United States is insanely expensive, when compared to that in Australia.
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January 18, 2016, 09:44:44 PM
I assumed that you were American yes.
Obviously I didn't used the word "its" in the sense that you are trying to say I did.
Don't go putting words in my mouth, I never claimed we have the best healthcare and I didn't say that you don't have healthcare so please don't fly off the handle.
As to 'civilized' I never even used that word, so i'm not sure where the indignation came from.

I guess I might need to rephrase my question.  Why is universal healthcare so unappealing to some Americans?
legendary
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January 18, 2016, 09:25:34 PM
Woah! bit of an overreaction!
Whats your point?  That Australia mistreated its natives as badly as America did? 

I wasn't trying to criticise, im just curious why America is pretty much the only developed country without it?

My natives?
You've used the word "civilized" in your description of the USA lacking healthcare, without describing how much good and positiveness some of your civilized countrymen (I assume you are an aussie?) brought with them to your natives. I wasn't trying to criticize, I was just curious as, I am sure, the 3% (left) of your native population gets the best healthcare in the world...  Cool




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January 18, 2016, 09:02:51 PM
Woah! bit of an overreaction!
Whats your point?  That Australia mistreated its natives as badly as America did? 

I wasn't trying to criticise, im just curious why America is pretty much the only developed country without it?
legendary
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January 18, 2016, 06:04:54 PM
How much do you personally pay out of your own pocket for the new health arrangements?  In Australia its 1.5% of taxable income.. 
Most tourists and visitors are even covered.
Some of you Americans seem to be making a lot of fuss about something every other citizen in the developed world is quite accustomed to: universal healthcare. 






The gold standard in universal healthcare and population reduction...




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January 18, 2016, 03:47:51 PM
Sanders Mopped the Floor With Clinton

John Podhoretz, New York Post January 18, 2016







Mainstream Democrats breathed a sigh of relief in October when Hillary Clinton dominated the first debate with Bernie Sanders — but after Sunday night’s debate, they’re probably hyperventilating. Or ought to be. The Sanders surge in the Democratic primaries,which suggests he’s the verge of beating her in the first two states and closing in on her nationwide, was mirrored in the way he ate her lunch Sunday night. And, for good measure, gobbled up her breakfast and dinner, too....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2016/01/18/sanders_mopped_the_floor_with_clinton_374189.html
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January 18, 2016, 09:25:53 AM
You got me!  I was making fun of the racists above my post.
legendary
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January 18, 2016, 09:17:01 AM
You don't need to post it here.  Everyone knows that the GOP candidate will secure 100% of the trailer parks/white vote , no matter whatever his policies are. Even if Martin Shkreli becomes the GOP nominee for the POTUS elections in 2016, the whites will vote for him. So go ahead, and vote for your corporate overlord.

Post some proof here, to support your claim. During the past elections, there were hundreds, if not thousands of sub-precincts where the Democrats got more than 95% of the vote. Most of these sub-precincts were in the ghetto. On the other hand, there might be 2 or 3 sub-precincts at the most, where the GOP was able to secure that kind of support.
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January 18, 2016, 08:28:21 AM
How much do you personally pay out of your own pocket for the new health arrangements?  In Australia its 1.5% of taxable income.. 
Most tourists and visitors are even covered.
Some of you Americans seem to be making a lot of fuss about something every other citizen in the developed world is quite accustomed to: universal healthcare. 
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January 18, 2016, 08:20:19 AM
Clinton and Sanders duel on Wall Street and healthcare in Democratic debate

Growing tensions over the future of the Democratic party erupted at its fourth presidential debate on Sunday, as Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders clashed over whether Barack Obama should be succeeded with pragmatism or idealism.

After a series of relatively cautious warm-up debates dominated by the former secretary of state, the candidates sparred over radical policy issues much closer to the agenda of Sanders supporters, leaving Clinton on the defensive over healthcare and Wall Street.

“Even when the Democrats were in charge of Congress we could not get the votes to do that,” warned Clinton, after Sanders upstaged his rival shortly before the debate, by releasing detailed proposals of a plan to get employers to pay for Medicare for all Americans.

A notably more aggressive Sanders accused her talking “nonsense” by claiming his plans would roll back the health insurance reforms of Obama.

“We are not going to tear up the Affordable Care Act – I helped write it – but we are going to move on top of that to a Medicare-for-all system,” said the Vermont senator.

“Tell me why we are spending almost three times more than the British, who guarantee healthcare to all of their people, 50% more than the French, more than the Canadians,” he added.

Estimates by Sanders’ experts claimed that getting rid of private insurance would more than compensate for higher taxes.

Sanders also went on the offensive over Wall Street reform, coming close to accusing Clinton of being “corrupted” by $600,000 in annual speaking fees he said she received from Goldman Sachs.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/17/democratic-debate-clinton-sanders-guns-health-wall-street
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January 17, 2016, 09:54:49 PM
BEST OF OBAMA VOTERS https://youtu.be/I79wUEqBdQc

LOL well shows alot.  Seems like everyone who voted for him were lazy as hell.  No wonder why Detroit has turned out the way it has.
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January 17, 2016, 09:26:40 PM
BEST OF OBAMA VOTERS https://youtu.be/I79wUEqBdQc
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January 17, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
You don't need to post it here.  Everyone knows that the GOP candidate will secure 100% of the trailer parks/white vote , no matter whatever his policies are. Even if Martin Shkreli becomes the GOP nominee for the POTUS elections in 2016, the whites will vote for him. So go ahead, and vote for your corporate overlord.
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January 17, 2016, 09:18:58 PM
When I see Hillary Clinton dabbing I understand she respect the hood and black culture. My vote is for her. Democrats always 1 step ahead of Republicans. They have better publicity.

You don't need to post it here. Everyone knows that the Democrat candidate will secure 100% of the ghetto / black vote, no matter whatever his policies are. Even if Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi becomes the Democrat nominee for the POTUS elections in 2016, the blacks will vote for him. So go ahead, and vote for the Pinocchibitch.

Well said.
legendary
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January 17, 2016, 09:16:53 PM
When I see Hillary Clinton dabbing I understand she respect the hood and black culture. My vote is for her. Democrats always 1 step ahead of Republicans. They have better publicity.

You don't need to post it here. Everyone knows that the Democrat candidate will secure 100% of the ghetto / black vote, no matter whatever his policies are. Even if Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi becomes the Democrat nominee for the POTUS elections in 2016, the blacks will vote for him. So go ahead, and vote for the Pinocchibitch.
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