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Topic: Is it a Bitcoin web developer's goal to create ugly website? - page 2. (Read 4880 times)

hero member
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i love simple websites,
no js
no css
no bs

way to go!!!
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Let's see your site then?

You can see my portfolio. Tongue

http://bit.ly/kBsL7I

No offense, but your web design looks sooooo 2000's.

I believe you are talking about the color selection I chose. Classy.
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Seriously, there are a few that look decent, but the rest is all crap. We're in 2011, what you guys have was 14 years ago.

The average surfer wants simplicity so they can get what they want fast and easy. They have the attention span of a toddler and want instant gratification.

The most popular website in the world is a white background with a search form and a couple links (google).

Web developers and graphic artists who havent got a clue will complain about simplicity and "ungliness" because those sites that are so popular, probably to pump themselves up and to feel better about not being as successful as those simple ugly websites.

I am a member of a trade org bullien board that has been the same since 1996. No changes to the front end, although backend security has been updated frequently. Its still more popular than the thousands that have been put online since combined. Make much more money from the advertising as well. Its simple, easy to use, lightening fast, and you get your information fast. No clutter. Just nuts and bolts.

Geeks spend a large portion of their time online, so they can appreciate the time and effort someone puts into a fancy site. But geeks are a very small fraction of internet users. Your average surfer doesnt appreciate it. In fact the more fancy and cluttered it is the harder it is to find stuff.



Web designers do not complain about "simplicity". I have no idea where you're getting your sources from, but this is entirely incorrect. It is the complete opposite.

What would our goal be if we went for the complete opposite of what the public wants? Why would we even be here in the first place? We're here because we get business, and surely, we get business because the average 'joe' doesn't have the skills of an average web designer to get what he wants.

And I sure hope you have your terminology in place because a graphic artist != web designer. A web designer takes everything into account from the user experience to the simplicity and beauty of the website. A graphic artist does not. He draws beautiful ponies stealing your Bitcoins.

The front of Google is beautiful. Excellent color selection in the logo and simplistic navigation. This is EXACTLY what web designers strive for. And I sure fucking hope you don't think the front of that was designed by an average 'web developer', because there is more than what meets your eye. Everything from the color of the 2 buttons to the placement of the links were carefully planned to give a soothing user experience.

This was not a day's work, yet alone a week's. I'm sure they did tons of A/B testing with a random selection of users to better understand what the users want.

Sure, of course you can replicate what they have there in a matter of minutes, because it's already there. No need for you to wireframe anything, because it's done for you.

Web developers simply need to 'learn' some modern web design skills. And please, get rid of the horrific color placement. That bothers me the most.


Oh, and craiglist is not dying because of the "lack of colors". It is dying because people simply do not want to see "reposts" every Single. Fucking. Day. There is an article somewhere, but I'm too lazy to find it.
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Google shows how websites should look like:

- White background
- Mostly text
- Colors and images where it actually makes sense


Blockexplorer is best.
Bitcoincharts is worst I remember.
legendary
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bitcoin - the aerogel of money
Let's see your site then?

You can see my portfolio. Tongue

http://bit.ly/kBsL7I

No offense, but your web design looks sooooo 2000's.
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What do you think about this?
sr. member
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Craiglist is simply not living up to today's standards. It is slowly dying.

Craigslist is NOT slowly dying.

They had slowed because of the public outcry and attention from the illegal sex ads, which were a huge portion of their classifieds.

Today standards are irrelevent. They do not matter to the people who pay the bills... The average consumer surfer.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/craigslist.org

It has a traffic rank of 9 - meaning the 9th most popular/visited site in the US. => http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/US

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Seriously, there are a few that look decent, but the rest is all crap. We're in 2011, what you guys have was 14 years ago.

The average surfer wants simplicity so they can get what they want fast and easy. They have the attention span of a toddler and want instant gratification.

The most popular website in the world is a white background with a search form and a couple links (google).

Web developers and graphic artists who havent got a clue will complain about simplicity and "ungliness" because those sites that are so popular, probably to pump themselves up and to feel better about not being as successful as those simple ugly websites.

I am a member of a trade org bullien board that has been the same since 1996. No changes to the front end, although backend security has been updated frequently. Its still more popular than the thousands that have been put online since combined. Make much more money from the advertising as well. Its simple, easy to use, lightening fast, and you get your information fast. No clutter. Just nuts and bolts.

Geeks spend a large portion of their time online, so they can appreciate the time and effort someone puts into a fancy site. But geeks are a very small fraction of internet users. Your average surfer doesnt appreciate it. In fact the more fancy and cluttered it is the harder it is to find stuff.



I agree, I think Craigslist is a good example.

Craiglist is simply not living up to today's standards. It is slowly dying.
legendary
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This is a community of primarily coders, and coders are notorious for not giving a shit about design lol.. But you shouldn't be throwing stones in a glass house "chick" , you can't even spell serious right on your "portfolio" - "We make serioius stuff"... just saying...

P.S MY SITE IS , LOOKS, AND FEELS GOOD
TWEETFORUM.COM/BITCOIN

TWITTER.COM/BITCOINFORUM
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Seriously, there are a few that look decent, but the rest is all crap. We're in 2011, what you guys have was 14 years ago.

The average surfer wants simplicity so they can get what they want fast and easy. They have the attention span of a toddler and want instant gratification.

The most popular website in the world is a white background with a search form and a couple links (google).

Web developers and graphic artists who havent got a clue will complain about simplicity and "ungliness" because those sites that are so popular, probably to pump themselves up and to feel better about not being as successful as those simple ugly websites.

I am a member of a trade org bullien board that has been the same since 1996. No changes to the front end, although backend security has been updated frequently. Its still more popular than the thousands that have been put online since combined. Make much more money from the advertising as well. Its simple, easy to use, lightening fast, and you get your information fast. No clutter. Just nuts and bolts.

Geeks spend a large portion of their time online, so they can appreciate the time and effort someone puts into a fancy site. But geeks are a very small fraction of internet users. Your average surfer doesnt appreciate it. In fact the more fancy and cluttered it is the harder it is to find stuff.



I agree, I think Craigslist is a good example.
legendary
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Radix-The Decentralized Finance Protocol
We're lazy nerds doing this for fun. If it works, that's good enough. CSS is hard and boring.

LOL, have you actually seen the syntax of CSS? Its as simple as it gets in web design.

CSS might not have complex syntax, but it is boring and over-engineered as hell.
sr. member
Activity: 385
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Seriously, there are a few that look decent, but the rest is all crap. We're in 2011, what you guys have was 14 years ago.

The average surfer wants simplicity so they can get what they want fast and easy. They have the attention span of a toddler and want instant gratification.

The most popular website in the world is a white background with a search form and a couple links (google).

Web developers and graphic artists who havent got a clue will complain about simplicity and "ungliness" because those sites that are so popular, probably to pump themselves up and to feel better about not being as successful as those simple ugly websites.

I am a member of a trade org bullien board that has been the same since 1996. No changes to the front end, although backend security has been updated frequently. Its still more popular than the thousands that have been put online since combined. Make much more money from the advertising as well. Its simple, easy to use, lightening fast, and you get your information fast. No clutter. Just nuts and bolts.

Geeks spend a large portion of their time online, so they can appreciate the time and effort someone puts into a fancy site. But geeks are a very small fraction of internet users. Your average surfer doesnt appreciate it. In fact the more fancy and cluttered it is the harder it is to find stuff.

legendary
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I agree many are ugly, but instead of complaining, why don't you do better ones, OP?
Many of these sites are made by entrepreneurs geeks which have no budget to buy the services of professional web designers. Give them a break, they are at least doing what they can.
And, well, the quality of such sites is improving. Most were uglier before. Tongue
sr. member
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Basically Bitcoin is Asperger's currency. "I don't have to make Bitcoin usable, marketable, media friendly or understandable to laypeople- it's just better so people of course people will use it. If the don't it's not my fault they are stupid."


Man, if someone would start selling model train sets for bitcoin, they'd be rich!
newbie
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Basically Bitcoin is Asperger's currency. "I don't have to make Bitcoin usable, marketable, media friendly or understandable to laypeople- it's just better so people of course people will use it. If the don't it's not my fault they are stupid."
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We're lazy nerds doing this for fun. If it works, that's good enough. CSS is hard and boring.

LOL, have you actually seen the syntax of CSS? Its as simple as it gets in web design.
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It's the content and ease of use that matters. Sure the pool sites could all be bedazzled and filled with fancy sliding jquery ajax things.. the sites are all fast loading, simple and to the point.. (i mean over 95% of people checking the pages are running miners on their GPU's).
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We're lazy nerds doing this for fun. If it works, that's good enough. CSS is hard and boring.
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Presale is live!
Seriously, there are a few that look decent, but the rest is all crap. We're in 2011, what you guys have was 14 years ago.

The problem is that we have too many programmers and not enough designers
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