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Topic: Is it about morality or productivity in choosing to work from Home (Read 413 times)

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Stop buying Elon Musk's stories because for sure he is for technology and will always attack those
people that does not user gas or electricity but what does working at home can do for him?
he does not even care for human but for His own benefits and his own money .

also WOrk from home is the best thing people can do now like us in this forum , we use to trade,
hunt and even work for our computer skills being paid so what is the need for Elon's word? and also this is the better place
to trade when you are at work right?
Nothing better than Working at home , because aside from I own my time I also own my freedom , because I am in control of everything now(actually work as businessman)
and yes I don't follow anyone now but myself , so morally and productivity? both is mine now.
Your choice Your life .

Working in Home is nothing that can compared   to office job because you are holding
your time  and holding your decisions.
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Am not sure to what would be the problem or an issue here ,

working from Home meaning less hassle and yeah have less time to spend in traffic or some irregularities outside our houses and yes this favor many specially those single parents or those family loving human.


Working at office makes people more physically and has potential to find other options in life because of struggles and yes also has irregularities .
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Well i might agree about working Online is bringing Low on productivities because you are losing chance to be with people physically  but mentally ? i believe that there will be more options for me .
Now I am engaging with more brainy people( yeah those tech type and those have idea in vlogging )

but I don't know what morality can affect being Online or working home ,  but I still choose working in Physical one if given a chance again , but with my age now? Im afraid fit to work on that.
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Nothing better than Working at home , because aside from I own my time I also own my freedom , because I am in control of everything now(actually work as businessman)
and yes I don't follow anyone now but myself , so morally and productivity? both is mine now.
You know what's best on working from home? You are able to avoid the stressful city traffic especially if you're in the city where the rush hour are hectic and toxic.

That's going to save you a lot of time to your life wherein you can enjoy that spending with your family or anything that you love to do. That's why WFH should be implemented for most jobs where it is possible.

Of course for logic, it can't be done to manufacturing and other industries that requires physical appearance of the employee.
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Nothing better than Working at home , because aside from I own my time I also own my freedom , because I am in control of everything now(actually work as businessman)
and yes I don't follow anyone now but myself , so morally and productivity? both is mine now.
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Strongly agreed with most of the facts he stated .I  myself personally prefer to go out to work daily rather than working from home always but the situation in my country is not that easy any more .Its very hard to secure a job now with thousands already jobless so most of us work from home not by choice but because it is just a must.
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Isn't the "billionaire" intelligent enough to realize that work isn't necessarily a paid job or working outside the home?
What does he say about mothers who work at/from home to ensure that their families are in order & children are well trained to become useful to society, or how about business owners or workers who live in their places of work with their families?


There is nothing immoral about working from home as a Mother to properly train your children, or running a good business from home or making your workplace your home.
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Personally i don't agree with Mr. Musk it's not a question of morality but of opportunity, possibility if it's possible to work from home saving time and the cost of petrol and food and perhaps earning more why not do it?
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There is nothing moral in choosing to work at home instead of going out like everyone else, as i see it more creative and more productive, it's like you'll get all the freedom u want and gain money at the same time, it is more funny and effective, the world outside is going faster that you can't handle everything and it slows your brain from doing all you want.
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Elon Musk considers working from home to be morally wrong. His reasons are that while you are working from home, the people who make your vehicles can't, as they have to be at the factory. In addition, while you are working from home, the delivery person cannot work from home as they have to deliver your package.

Mr. Musk is entitled to his own opinion. What I think is that it is a matter of productivity and not morality. For example, the software engineer who works from home may be working on the latest innovative software for food delivery or vehicle assembly. Besides, where it is necessary, companies should allow their staff to decide what they want.

Do you agree with Elon Musk or do you disagree with him?

- https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/elon-musk-work-from-home-morally-wrong-when-some-have-to-show-up.html?__source|twitter|main|verticalvideo
I don't know what Musk's own underside standing of morality vs remote works is and as a matter of fact I have disagreed with a couple of Musk's thoughts and even his working-from-home thoughts.

Maybe designing an artificial intelligence wife sounds like morality to him, just like making electric cars.

It's all about the money and the fam but we a bigger than that because what matters is the quality of things you put your time into and there are different forks for a different job.


Its a different world with AI now - People are doing wonders with it. And there is no need to go to office. If you can do it on your own especially if you have sharp mind then you must try learning new skills and earn on your own.
legendary
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Musk is a clown. He says that it's unfair for workers who can't work from home, but who gave him the right to speak on behalf of those people? He's not even citing any polls, just talking out of his own entitled ass. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't even believe in that, he just tries to appeal to the masses, while his real reason why he hates work from home is because he believes in some twisted ideology that says that people must work a lot to earn money, and if they not, then they are cheating. Which is ironic, because he himself would be nobody if not for his family's wealth that allowed him to buy companies that became successful - Musk himself is not very talented.
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It depends on what you do too I guess.
The condition when working at home was at first forced because of the prolonged lockdown due to Covid which made it inevitable that they had to get used to it.
And now things like that don't exist and of course those who do their work centered in the office then have to go back to the office to work.

On the other hand it depends on what kind of work you do because regardless of whether it is morality or productivity I think it all leads to the same goal depending on how you put yourself in the job because everything will basically be the same but of course when we work and become employees you have to follow the rules because it is a requirement.
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Elon Musk considers working from home to be morally wrong. His reasons are that while you are working from home, the people who make your vehicles can't, as they have to be at the factory. In addition, while you are working from home, the delivery person cannot work from home as they have to deliver your package.

Mr. Musk is entitled to his own opinion. What I think is that it is a matter of productivity and not morality. For example, the software engineer who works from home may be working on the latest innovative software for food delivery or vehicle assembly. Besides, where it is necessary, companies should allow their staff to decide what they want.

Do you agree with Elon Musk or do you disagree with him?

- https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/elon-musk-work-from-home-morally-wrong-when-some-have-to-show-up.html?__source|twitter|main|verticalvideo

It will be morally wrong if your job needs your presence so that the result will be more effective and perfect example with that is if you are working on manufacturing firm where your presence is really needed.

It is obvious that you will not be working from home if your jobs needs you in different places o in a place where the job should be done.  Like, you wont work at home when you are a machine operator.  You should be on the site of the machined to fulfill your jobs.

Elon Musk should consider that its case to case basis before releasing that statement.

Elon Musk does not consider anything because he is so fond of his idea that he thinks it is the authority above others.
legendary
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Perhaps Elon is being a bit crude -- there's still truth to his comments. Working from home reduces productivity, period. If the analytics suggested that there was an increase in productivity, then large companies would not have their employees return back to the office. They would spare no expense if it turned out it was more costly to have employees at the office.

As an aside: If your job can be solely done from home, then you're going to be one of the first up for AI replacement. It's also a job that can be outsourced to others countries with a cheaper labor market. There's utility to going to the office, it helps show that you're not replaceable.
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Glad you know that Elon Musk is entitled to his own opinion and he also said he believes that people are more productive when they work in person than at home.
If we look into what he was saying he has a good point but his statement was not about the working ecosystems cause he was talking about a factory working area where some boss we stay at home claiming they are working which is an inequality from Elon's belief.
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Elon Musk considers working from home to be morally wrong. His reasons are that while you are working from home, the people who make your vehicles can't, as they have to be at the factory. In addition, while you are working from home, the delivery person cannot work from home as they have to deliver your package.

Mr. Musk is entitled to his own opinion. What I think is that it is a matter of productivity and not morality. For example, the software engineer who works from home may be working on the latest innovative software for food delivery or vehicle assembly. Besides, where it is necessary, companies should allow their staff to decide what they want.

Do you agree with Elon Musk or do you disagree with him?

- https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/elon-musk-work-from-home-morally-wrong-when-some-have-to-show-up.html?__source|twitter|main|verticalvideo
I used to disagree with Elon Musk, lol. Seriously, I don’t see immorality here, but it’s more on productivity like what you’ve said OP. Especially at the time of covid, people have no choice but to work from home, and that’s the time where they get to balance their work as an employee and their work as a child or as a family man. But it also depends on what kind of job you are into. But if what you need is only stable internet connection and a computer unit or laptop, then working from home would still create high productivity provided that you also work at your own pace.
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What Elon Musk failed to understand that not all work needed a physical presence in their work place to get it delivered in this 21st century, some work can be done also from home, that's what Elon Musk need to understand that not all work has a same way of operations. What matter most is the delivery of the work task results
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It's such a generalization as to be pointless. Every office job is going to be a bit different. So work from home may or may not matter.
Case in point, I have a friend who is an insurance adjuster. He had a cube farm to go to if he wanted to, but was almost never there. Covid hit, they shutdown the cube farm and everyone worked from home. But since 75% of his job was field work anyway. And a lot of time he went home at did the claims processing from his couch. It made no difference to him.

Now they want everyone in the office at least 1 day a week. He told them to stick it. He was not in the office 1 day a week BEFORE covid. It was just a power play from management.

Know someone else who does mortgage paperwork, she tried to explain it to me and I really wanted to ask if she was serious about the processes she had to follow But most of the time she was waiting for people to email / fax her documents. Since it was all email / efax anyway the office was just a place to go. She frequently went in 1st thing in the morning took care of what had come in overnight was was out of there in less then 2 hours. From then on so long as she kept an eye on her email she was doing whatever she wanted to do all day. Fast forward to covid and working from home and her company actually put tracking software on her laptop to see what she was doing. Yeah, that did not go well. But, she was still one of the more productive people at that company even though to the outside observer she spent an very large amount of time screwing around.

So no it's not about productivity at all. It's about people with small fragile egos wanting to lord it over their workers, and you can't do that if workers are not around.

More and more places are finding working from home gets better results from workers for less money.

-Dave
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This is not a question of morality, but a question of "carrot and stick". Some workers need a carrot and will be disciplined to work from home, others need a stick in the office, otherwise they will not work effectively. Covid is over and the company must do everything to effectively manage employees, and this is easier to do in the office.

This situation is a case to case basis as there are jobs that you can do at your home.
Whereas, some positions need to be in the office to perform the needed tasks.
So it is not a question of morality, for me, it is how you can accomplish your job given the environment you are in.
There are so many home-based jobs now as you can achieve the same productivity at home.
However, there are some jobs that you can't accomplish at home like the laboratory jobs, or other hands-on jobs where you need company resources.
Most likely, people are working from home creates more productivity on both sides, they give enough time for their jobs and for their family. So instead of going to their offices spending more time and money to reach there, why not spend those time working at home efficiently. As long as the environment is still conducive and productive to the employee, that is the most important there. But for jobs that are highly possible within their own site, then working from home may not be advisable as it can affect the quality and productivity of their jobs.
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This depends on the nature of your job, musk is entitle to his opinion, musk companies are mainly production company, there product must be delivered to the people that ordered for them and at such the supervision of his work force by him directly is needed so that their will be more seriousness and concentration in other to get the required product satisfaction also his presence in his facility will make his employees to be discipline in other not to be sacked, that's what I understand by this his statement, but he should also know that is not all job that requires you to go to the office, the major thing is if your company is satisfied with the services you are rendering to them irrespective of where you are working from, productivity is what every company is setup for and then morality comes in when attending to your customers or clients as the case may be so am of the opinion that you can work from anywhere in as much as you are doing exactly what is needed by your employers.
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