Topic: Is it about morality or productivity in choosing to work from Home - page 2. (Read 428 times)

I remember he mentioned he worked literally 24/7 so he made his factory as a home too so he is giving more time than 9 to 5 worker even now he is just living a small ready built house his factory.

But its really subjective according to what job we are considering but for the sake of company they can avoid lot of unnecessary expenses if they let the employees to work from their home but if I am not sure everyone will be well disciplined like working in an office with working from home like they can be lethargic and postpone their task and if this becomes a culture of upcoming generation then we may see slowness in the work that is probably he meant.

I guess it's connected with both . productivity and morality in working at home are needed because what we face is clint. which brings us good name if we succeed to make them our customers. this is wrong with us freelance. it doesn't have a boss like we work in a factory. we are the boss itself. we just need to really serve it with the best service to really show our morale and productivity.

Depends I guess on the employee's comfortability. Just like in my country wherein work from home set up have just emerged since Quaratine period due to covid. However, it was adopted by some companies even if heightened restrictions are already lifted simply because they believe that as long as their employees are still productive even at home, that won't be a problem. But in terms of morality and productivity, ofcourse onsite set up would seem to be more fitting because that is where we are used of. Some are not being productive working at home because of the 'vibe' they are getting unlike in offices. Point here is comfortability and a company's satisfaction with their employee's.

I'll tell you about my approach to my own life, and it will get clear why I disagree with Musk. I'm okay with going somewhere and working there if it's something that can't be done from home or can be done worse from home. So, for example, when I worked as a school teacher, I was okay going to the school to physically be in the classroom with children because that's not something that can be done from home. There are online schools, sure, but I do see the benefit of physical presence of people in one room during lessons and additional benefits it brings like socialization of students during the breaks. But I also tried a job for a short time where I went to an office to just literally sit in from of my laptop and do stuff on the laptop. That's a kind of job to me where I don't see why I need to be physically there. I quit that job very fast and since then I never agree to jobs that require going to an office for doing something that can be done just as well from home.
So, if I apply it to myself, I don't think it's wrong to apply it to working from home or not from home in general. And thus I don't see it as morally wrong to work from home. It's also not the best choice for everyone, as some enjoy socialization at work, some prefer a strict work-life balance where the work stuff doesn't enter the home space, and some have kids or something else that makes it uncomfortable to work from home.

Totally irrelevant comparsion as types of job tells you about how to do it and from where you can do it means that there are some jobs than can be done online but some requires total physical labour  like workers in factories , delivery boys ans so on .
And mortality is totally irrelevant to online job or work from job that depends upon your way of doing it if you are doing your work with all attention you'll get maximum results and if not you will fail.

I can't believe a guy who is a big name in entrepreneurship will say such a thing, it's a very bad comparison how can you expect a mechanic to build a car on his home when all the materials to build a car are on a factory and, and the delivery person job is outside of the home and so on, there's a job that allows you or even a company allows you to work at home for great creativity like a software engineer, a writer or an architect.
There are jobs that you can do at home and jobs that will not allow you to do that, Elon Musk just wants workers to return to their respective offices because they think managers are losing control of these people when in fact according to studies here in our country those who work from home are more productive and become highly creative, that's because they don't have to stress themselves from traffic which accounts 3 to 4 hours of labor hours losses because our traffic here is one of the worse, I'm sure it's the same reason from other countries.

How can he speak in that manner when he's among those making it possible for robots to take over our jobs. Every day more jobs are been lost to robots and it's because him and his counterparts are responsible for developing robots and AI software that are doing the job faster and better than humans and in most cases cheaper than paying a human.

Jobs available are now global and can be done from any where so why should we leave those jobs just because we're not been fair to people like himself than needs to go to the workshop to build his cars or supervised the building of Tesla, he's not making sense.

Working from home has its merits and demerits.

Merits
Comfort: Some people find their homes more comfortable especially introverts. These set of persons are more productive alone and in a quiet workspace.

Flexibility: Working from home makes work less rigid. Workers don't need to be put in an office space that makes them work like prisoners. But at home, you can decide to create a workspace in any location of your home based on your mood. Your workplace can be in your garden on a very sunny day.

Save cost: Workers will have to consider buying work clothes and other accessories. Transportation costs and office space rentals are also expensive. But working at home might reduce these expenses.

Demerits
Space: If you live in a small or uncomfortable apartment, working from home might be a burden.

Family: If you have a family that has children, they might be a distraction. I will never consider working from home because of the young children around me.

Facilities: You might not have all the necessary work tools if you work from home. The office will always be better equipped.


This is not a matter of morality but the kind of job, the choice of workers, and the level of productivity

I guess it depends on what one's job is. If someone doesn't need to be as physically active as @OP says, they can work from home. After all, we have experienced Covid-19, where many people who work in offices have to work from their homes.

But for those who have to do physical work, they can't do work from home. If human labour is replaced by robots that can replace human physical work, maybe they don't need to do physical activity and just watch it from home. But if robots are used en masse, it will also pose a dilemma because there will certainly be many employees who do physical activities and will experience a reduction in employees.

And that will create a lot of new unemployment in many fields. Elon Musk can say whatever he wants, depending on the situation and conditions.

I can't dispute his opinion based on the fact he has given.. There are some specific sets of workers that may decide to work at home, why?
Just as Musk already said, Taxi driver can't stay at home driving his car nor does a rigger or crane operators works from home.

These are field works they needs to be present to execute their task on their various titles.
Examples of those who can work from home are musician, they may decides to create a studio in their home and create all forms of musical beats and sounds to suits their songs, they must go to studio.

In summary, staying at home determines on the job description and what you are into, you can't expect a cryptocurrency trader go into field to trade main while he can just seat at home to do his trading.

We all know that some opinions shared by Elon are sprouted from his OCD mentality and as such should not sound surprising, because honestly, as long as a job is done efficiently, the place should not be a problem.(since they differ in requirements and description). One would say he's got an efficient work ethic, but personally, I see it as hard taskmaster level and can sometimes limit a worker's creativity.

Nope. Definitely not.

I don't know if where did I watched it, but there's one video of him in the internet saying that he's working more hours than his employees. Correct me if I somebody saw this one also, but what I remember is he is working 160 hours a week. I know it's kind of impossible, but what's true is that he's working more hours than his fellow employees.

Morality? Productivity? For me, it's all about results. Whether you are working from home, or working in an office with your fellow employees, if you don't have any results in what you're doing then it's useless. You can work from the office, and produce good results, but at the same time, you can also work from your home, and produce good results for the company as well. I guess it doesn't matter where you work from home or work on the office, but producing good results for the betterment of the company matters.

As for me, I see working from as productive one. I mean we've seen companies allowing their employees to do work on their home, and still producing good results. Aside from that, they have more time to their family. Just imagine an employee spending countless hours in the road because he/she doesn't have his/her own car. On average, an employee here in our country spends 2 hours on the road per day because of traffic. Multiply it by 30, that's 60 hours already that the employee doesn't do anything, but sitting. Just imagine how many things you can do in that 2 hours per day. Spend time with your family, eat with them, go to shopping with them, can work more if you want. That's why I don't agree with Musk's mindset, and I believe many here are the same.

When someone is engaged in a job that requires them to feel free and work from home, there is no crime to that; one can possibly have their office at home, but it all depends on where their level of productivity is increased or where they find themselves reasoning so fast. There are some jobs that have the right environment that suits them best, and while you cannot just have a car factory, cement factory, flore factory, or battery factory at home, that doesn't mean, as a consultant (doctor), you can't have an office in your house, depending on the space you have at home. People work from home or get an office outside their home for different reasons. When you feel home is not comfortable for you to improve your productivity, then there is a need to get an office somewhere else. If home is full of noise and distraction, then there is also a need for an office.

There was a day I went to monogram my niece's school clothes. When I arrived at the place, I thought it was even a big shop, but demn... This guy turned his parlor into his shop, and all his machines were mounted everywhere. After I was done with the business that day, I calmly asked the guy why he didn't get a big shop, and his reply was that a big shop is too expensive for now, compared to the level of customers he has. He needs a lot of customers before he can meet up with rent payments, and since he's still a bachelor, he's got to worry about disturbance or distraction at home.

Sometimes people can create masterpieces while working from home, as they are in a calm and familiar environment. When working in a team, it is certainly necessary to communicate with your colleagues, but comparing mental work with physical work is completely wrong. Yes, you can go to work every day and sit there for hours doing absolutely nothing while receiving a salary. But working at home, a person may have more freedom; thus, in order to fulfill this or that order, he allocates some time and does it more carefully, which cannot be said about working in the office. What connection and what kind of morality can we talk about with couriers who work with their feet or with people whose work is connected with mental work? Musk, as always, thinks a lot.

As a matter of fact, not only is this not applicable to all jobs, this shouldn't also be applied even to the same jobs. It doesn't mean that since my job does not require me to be physically present in an office, I could just work from home.

During the pandemic there were many call center agents that were required to work from home. Some were happy. Some were not. To those who have comfortable and quite rooms and are located in good areas, they're happy. To those who are renting small and hot rooms with noisy surroundings and where there are no restaurants or stores nearby, it's a burden.

Definitely not he's just the mind and controller behind his team he may never comes to office properly he just controlled everything from outside .
The office desk jobs can easily  be carried out at home with 100% productivity because that totally requires your systems and softwares installed  but the business sometimes requires your total presence to complete some task .

Did Elon Musk always stay in his company from nine to five in working days? I doubt it

I think he can say that because there are many employee working in his company are asking to work from home, so he don't like it and say like this, to make his employee stay in his company. Work from home is obviously more productive, but a businessman will ask his employee to help other people jobs even though it's not their job desk, a businessman don't care, he will say it's a loyal act for the company.

Elon Musk has alot to say on every topic but in this matter he's being judgemental because work from home or not totally depends upon your job type . If you have a job which always requires your physical presence to carryout particular task that's OK but the IT jobs that needs your work and results not your presence is another case .
Productivity has nothing to do with work from office or home.

I suppose Musk here is fighting for "equality", where people of a single company should go to and fro in the same office every day for their work. And it's just dumb (and there really is no such thing as equality tbf). I mean, let's be real, his argument of service workers coming to the office to work REQUIRES them to work there because that's there, or at least a part of their job description, simple as that. Some jobs are able to function well enough in their homes. Though it may be a matter of preference for them, it certainly doesn't necessitate the requirement for them to go to the office to perform their job.

I agree that it isn't really about productivity, I mean some people are just more productive in the office with fellow workers, and some are just productive while in the comfort of their home. Morality? Now that idrk where he got that from. Plus, I say bosses, team leads, CEO's or whoever is in the lead probably just isn't used to handling people online, hence why they make them come to the office, where they actually know how to.  

Well said, Elon Musk might be famous since he's rich but I disagree with on this one. There's a lot of different jobs that you could consider already that needed to be present at your workplace or can be done at home. Some companies really wanted to see the work of their employees so they are implementing to work at their workplace even those jobs can be done at home. Of course as an worker some really prefer to work at home to be more convenient for them so they really give the best output which the company really like. In short it still depends it's not applicable to all jobs.