Is it allowed to post in English in a Local Section - page 4.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 27, 2023, 04:36:18 PM

Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

Taking the Nigerian local board as an example. Nigeria is a multi-ethnic nation with so many local languages but in the local board rules and guidelines, it is clearly stated that the only accepted languages are English and Pidgin language(a generalized local language). Any other language usage is in violation of the local board rules. So to answer your question, it all depends on what the local board wants. If the local board recognizes English language, then you can apply it but if it doesn't and you don't feel comfortable using the local language, then you cannot use the local board. The local board is an important section of the forum and I think whatever it says in regards to language usage, bitcointalk will honour it.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 27, 2023, 04:36:18 PM

Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

It all depends on the nature of the local board. There are some local boards like mine (Nigeria) that uses pidgin (local English) and also uses English. The most important thing is that you are using a language that the majority or all the users in your locality can understand.
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Quote from: LoyceV on June 28, 2023, 01:53:11 AM

Quote from: dzungmobile on June 28, 2023, 12:58:36 AM

- In that local language, with a translation from Google or any translation tool.

That's not allowed:

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 01:27:51 PM

27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.

My take: I try to avoid posting on local boards, but I've done it a few times (usually after being mentioned there). Sometimes I post only a link that answers a question, sometimes in English with the comment that I'll delete it soon, hopefully after someone translated it for me. So far, I haven't been banned for it Cheesy

Ironically, in the Spanish Board we have had people who used translation tools to communicate with us and we did not mind it.
It is not a common think but I recall some reputable person doing it some months ago in a poker tournament thread.

In general, Spanish speaking people find it endearing when a foreigner tries to communicate in our language, it may be the opposite in other board, though. I assume.

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Quote from: _act_ on June 27, 2023, 04:42:25 PM

The local board will have their own rules. I think India is posting in English. Some Nigerians too are posting in English. But there are some local boards where only local languages are allowed, depending on the local board rules.

The case of Nigeria is that Nigeria is a multilingual country and English is the official language that everyone understands and in some cases, they also make use of their broken language to communicate effectively, but if in a situation your country speaks the same language and not a multilingual country like Nigeria the rules may apply that they only make use of their local language.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 27, 2023, 04:36:18 PM

Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

It depends on the local board, for example if you post an English thread on Russian board which has something related to Russia then it's probably allowed and replying depends on whether other forum members of that local board can understand it or not.

But I wonder why someone who knows the English and communicate in English is going to post only in the local board when other members can't understand anything.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 28, 2023, 01:21:05 PM

Out of curiosity what happens to posts made on the English board using a local language??

It probably won't have an answer to your question.
And certainly the post will be deleted by the moderator.
And if it is recurrent of this attitude, it can be warned.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 27, 2023, 04:36:18 PM

Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

Although as far as I know the forum doesn't have any rules that English language cannot be use on the local board.
But I think the main purpose of opening a local board or thread is to have a good communication or interaction with our local community.And which cannot be done well by any other language except the local language. If I talk about myself, that my mother language is Bengali, so if I want to learn one thing, it takes much less time to learn things in Bengali than in English. So I think it is better for local people to speak in their own language on local board, At least with respect Mother language. Also, it's not a bad idea to keep English open for outsiders who want to contact the local board or thread.

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If the comment remains on topic with what is being discussed..I think there is leeway for it to stand!
Besides some local board's such as the Nigerian one have the language so similar to English and if the topic is that sensitive or engaging and you want to make your contribution this could be allowed but subject to Local board rules Roll Eyes

Out of curiosity what happens to posts made on the English board using a local language??

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I think there's leeway in speaking English on local boards if there's no express rule that it's forbidden or allowed (especially non-native mods). What I know in several countries actually makes English a second language in everyday or formal conversations and there are even laws covering it due to several factors.
In any case, just discuss specifically with local mods if it is necessary to make the rules more explicit.

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I think it's allowed as long as you're genuinely asking something, when it's about signature campaign or bounty, your post would be deleted.

Quote from: rachael9385 on June 28, 2023, 09:04:42 AM

some local boards have their own language rules so other boards will not understand what they are saying (privacy).

What did you mean about this? it's like the local board is used to make an agreement for personal advantage? like trading merit as an example lol. If you posted in this forum, there's no such privacy anymore, someone can report your post or anyone can translate your post using google translate.

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Quote from: elevates on June 28, 2023, 10:28:22 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 27, 2023, 04:36:18 PM

Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

Bro! English is the language of the forum. Why would you ask such a question? It doesn't matter if it is a local board, what matters is that English is a the primary language of this forum. If your community is unable to answer any questions in English then it is the problem of your local community. Either use translation apps or continue by avoiding such questions in English or reply by using a translation AI. I do understand that not everyone is good with English in the Indian subcontinent. Take your own call and if possible work around with the the possible situation. BTW, globally accepted language is English with different accents.
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The local boards is meant for people who are not proficient in English to ask questions in their local dialect and get answered with same dialect. Hence, if a local board like France writes in English what is the essence of posting it in the local board when the person can share it with wider range of people in the forum. As English is the language of the forum. The concept of writing in English in some local boards doesn't add up, as it may not fetch the poster better rapport with locals in the board. Utilizing the local dialect, helps members identify that you're a citizen of their country or acquainted with their language.

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Sometimes Ive used mixed up its not because I dont like putting up a local words but some are even hard to put in our language so better mixed with some easily understandable english words.

I dont think its bad to write in english, but totally cool if the local language will be use since its the purpose of having the local boards isnt it?

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 27, 2023, 04:36:18 PM

Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

Bro! English is the language of the forum. Why would you ask such a question? It doesn't matter if it is a local board, what matters is that English is a the primary language of this forum. If your community is unable to answer any questions in English then it is the problem of your local community. Either use translation apps or continue by avoiding such questions in English or reply by using a translation AI. I do understand that not everyone is good with English in the Indian subcontinent. Take your own call and if possible work around with the the possible situation. BTW, globally accepted language is English with different accents.
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Go through your local board rules and you can easily find out how they operate and the language that's allowed if English language is allowed you will know from there. Each local board has their own rules patterning language, some agree on only the use of local language and nothing more. While other local boards allows for both the local and English.

If I may ask, what country are you from, maybe someone from your country could be of help by clearly explaining it all to you if English is allowed there or not. Myself I am a proud Nigerian and we do give room for English language and our local Naija pidgin language to coexist as it's convenient for any member to use any of the two.

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Quote from: acroman08 on June 28, 2023, 04:21:21 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 27, 2023, 04:36:18 PM

but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

this will entirely depend on the local board's rule. anyway, I don't know about other local boards, but in the Pilipinas board, users can create threads or reply to someone using English. I guess the fact that English is our second language is probably the reason why it is allowed(not really sure if it is the reason).

That's true I am not offended if one of my countrymen creates a thread or posts in English, my English is not perfect but English is our second language, it's a fact that many of our countrymen prefer to post in English when it comes to local board it's up to the moderator to set up rules and if there is a request from members then it's up to moderators to consult the community or do a poll.
And besides we have hundreds of different dialects and English is one of the languages that binds us besides Tagalog.

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It depends on the rules and regulation of a local boards it because some of them are accepting or allowing every user to post English which they will know that English is a universal language and also it's up to the user what language they will used. But some of local boards is some of them using half English and and half of their language bus some of them are only their language because from the word it self Local board which means our community provide us a board that we can use our local languages.

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Quote from: _act_ on June 27, 2023, 04:42:25 PM

Local board will have their own rules. I think India are posting in English. Some Nigerians too are posting in English. But there are some local boards that only local languages are allowed, depending on the local board rules.

Yes @_act_ you are right, English should can be allowed on local boards as long as everyone on that board can read and understand the language, some local boards have their own language rules so other boards will not understand what they are saying (privacy).

Quote from: ImThour on June 28, 2023, 06:19:14 AM

If I am not wrong, you will have to check rules of your local section which you are willing to post in.

Every users on this forum must read the rules on every boards before posting so as not to be a victim of band.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 27, 2023, 04:36:18 PM

Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

Everything is never black or white when it comes to moderation, there are many shades of grey

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I can be tolerant when someone tries to speak in french, even if there are a lot of mistakes. But I can directly delete an ANN written entirely in English, or if it's been (badly) translated by Google.

If I have followed correctly, you're referring to your discussion with snowpega. It's complicated to answer you because it's a thread and not a section. and if I'm not mistaken, english and urdu are official languages in Pakistan. What happens in Pakistan if someone speaks to you in English ? Don't you answer him ?
What do the other members of the Pakistani thread think about this ?

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Quote from: tranthidung on June 28, 2023, 05:35:03 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on June 28, 2023, 01:53:11 AM

Quote from: dzungmobile on June 28, 2023, 12:58:36 AM

- In that local language, with a translation from Google or any translation tool.

That's not allowed:

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 01:27:51 PM

27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.

I meant it will be used together with the original English content. Is it allowed, I guess yes and my post above is for short questions to locals only. In this context, the automated translation is not for posting quota, it is just to have better communication with locals.

I understand it this way, when we are mentioned, and we feel that we should make some comment about that mention, we will be able to give a brief response, even if it involves the use of translation tools. Perhaps including a copy in English. Or maybe only in English. But of course it's not to have a big conversation.

Now, imagine that you need to know something about a certain country. Nothing better than asking in the local tab. Even if it's only in English. In the Portuguese tab, English users sometimes ask questions. And we are happy to respond.

If people don't abuse in that kind of situation, I don't see the problem.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 27, 2023, 04:36:18 PM

they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

What is that local board? For example, it is almost possible to use the English language in the Indian board. Otherwise, you can report it to mod and those posts will be deleted. If the account continues to post, it will be banned for a period of 7 days, 14 days, a month and Permanent.
Why does that user insist on posting in that local board? Is it because of merits or something else? If you include the account link, she/he may get negative trust.

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