Is it allowed to sell Bitcointalk account? - page 4.

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on August 22, 2016, 09:15:22 PM

It is allowed to sell and buy account in this forum however it is better not to do it,because some of the user buy high rank account and then use the high account to scam people, also buy and sell account make a lot user become spammer and account farmer

Well thats the main reason because those bought accounts would be used in bad things just like scamming people as same as you said but not all some may used it to join signature campaigns directly without starting to a newbie rank. We cant really stop these things because some people do make a living with just account farming.

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It is allowed to sell and buy account in this forum however it is better not to do it,because some of the user buy high rank account and then use the high account to scam people, also buy and sell account make a lot user become spammer and account farmer

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People are buying and selling accounts allw the time. It this was forbidden, admins would have already reacted and probably banned those users.

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I think it's not about allowed or not, its about the attitude.
there's no rules on bitcointalk about buy/sell account.

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Quote from: JeWay on August 11, 2016, 10:43:03 AM

So, some time ago there's this user who gave me a red trust because of selling an account. He said that selling account isn't allowed on this forum.
So please answer the question, "Is it allowed to sell Bitcointalk account?"

I saw most of the members are selling account, even they don't accept it that they are not doing it. But in fact, we all know about it, that mostly members are here, who have a lot of accounts and also they offer it for selling. But i think it is not suitable for everyone, because Signature campaigns have a rules so follow it.

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Quote from: senyorito123 on August 22, 2016, 01:22:57 AM

Quote from: Zadicar on August 21, 2016, 10:59:27 PM

Quote from: iv4n on August 21, 2016, 06:34:54 PM

So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?

Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues.

Mod can trace it via ip, but they dont anything with it since buying and selling accounts here is not really illegal but it is not really advisable to do so since many scamming events happen that bought high rank account are mostly involve in that scamming spree happen here, and that is one of plenty reason why they discourage it, and also it is very dangerous for a people to buy some accounts coz there are probabilities that the account they are about to buy is a hack account.

mods cant trace back the IP as most will be using TOR or VPN. and even banning on bitcointalk will not stop scammers from trading it on other forums. i guess the Trust/Activity system needs some overhauling to discourage trading accounts.

But I think the people is using encrypted network like a TOR and VPN is can know, because for some people using a VPN if you trace their IP will appearing the name of their van in the companies. maybe detecting the people is using TOR and SOCKS 5 it's will be more difficult.

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Quote from: JeWay on August 11, 2016, 10:43:03 AM

So, some time ago there's this user who gave me a red trust because of selling an account. He said that selling account isn't allowed on this forum.
So please answer the question, "Is it allowed to sell Bitcointalk account?"

I guess there's no rules that its now allowed selling account here in bitcointalk, because I've always seen this in digital goods section and even in the auction and sometimes hero members are the one who sell it. Maybe there are members here that is not a fan of selling account here so when they see some account that is going to sell they give it red trust, because it can be use to scam other users here, they just bought an account that has good reputations and they use it to bad doings

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Quote from: senyorito123 on August 22, 2016, 01:22:57 AM

Quote from: Zadicar on August 21, 2016, 10:59:27 PM

Quote from: iv4n on August 21, 2016, 06:34:54 PM

So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?

Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues.

Mod can trace it via ip, but they dont anything with it since buying and selling accounts here is not really illegal but it is not really advisable to do so since many scamming events happen that bought high rank account are mostly involve in that scamming spree happen here, and that is one of plenty reason why they discourage it, and also it is very dangerous for a people to buy some accounts coz there are probabilities that the account they are about to buy is a hack account.

Even if they could trace those account it would solve only a small partition on this problem and would have a hard time if they would totally ban of selling accounts. I think thats the thing that they dont even bother to put such rule in this forum because they know already that it could hardly stop.

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Quote from: senyorito123 on August 22, 2016, 01:22:57 AM

Quote from: Zadicar on August 21, 2016, 10:59:27 PM

Quote from: iv4n on August 21, 2016, 06:34:54 PM

So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?

Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues.

Mod can trace it via ip, but they dont anything with it since buying and selling accounts here is not really illegal but it is not really advisable to do so since many scamming events happen that bought high rank account are mostly involve in that scamming spree happen here, and that is one of plenty reason why they discourage it, and also it is very dangerous for a people to buy some accounts coz there are probabilities that the account they are about to buy is a hack account.

mods cant trace back the IP as most will be using TOR or VPN. and even banning on bitcointalk will not stop scammers from trading it on other forums. i guess the Trust/Activity system needs some overhauling to discourage trading accounts.

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Quote from: Zadicar on August 21, 2016, 10:59:27 PM

Quote from: iv4n on August 21, 2016, 06:34:54 PM

So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?

Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues.

Mod can trace it via ip, but they dont anything with it since buying and selling accounts here is not really illegal but it is not really advisable to do so since many scamming events happen that bought high rank account are mostly involve in that scamming spree happen here, and that is one of plenty reason why they discourage it, and also it is very dangerous for a people to buy some accounts coz there are probabilities that the account they are about to buy is a hack account.

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Quote from: iv4n on August 21, 2016, 06:34:54 PM

So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?

Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues.

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Quote from: iv4n on August 21, 2016, 06:34:54 PM

So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?

There are obviously ways to avoid that, but it'd be such a timewasting task to implement on Simple Machines Forum script.

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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?

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Quote from: dragunfly on August 18, 2016, 12:02:06 PM

yes it is allowed, but some people don't like that as you can buy old account and others will think you that you have been here for long time so they will trust you more

some people don't like it because scammers buy accounts for cheap and start scamming easily with high ranked account and showing their self trusted, and this is true. account sales is pretty much encourages scam here.
people should not sell accounts here.

Yeah many people here are trying to make more accounts they are making a lot of account and sell to others. but honestly i dont know if this is allowed or not.. but according to term it is ok to make account multiple times here but the problem i didnt see that it is allowed to sell accounts here unless if the owner have no plan to use the account again..

Theirs no rule prohibit accounts trade but this doing are very discourable and not really a good thing to do, since many frauds buying high ranks account now just to fool people here, and the higher rank they can get the more people they might get scam its because sometimes newbie are looking for rank to trust not the intention or background of that account.

buying accounts is clearly Identity Fraud and should be banned. or Trust system should be disabled permanently at least. there is no point in both services running side by side

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Quote from: ultrloa on August 21, 2016, 09:56:13 AM

Quote from: john2231 on August 21, 2016, 04:20:52 AM

Quote from: zeaderza on August 21, 2016, 04:17:25 AM

Quote from: dragunfly on August 18, 2016, 12:02:06 PM

yes it is allowed, but some people don't like that as you can buy old account and others will think you that you have been here for long time so they will trust you more

some people don't like it because scammers buy accounts for cheap and start scamming easily with high ranked account and showing their self trusted, and this is true. account sales is pretty much encourages scam here.
people should not sell accounts here.

Yeah many people here are trying to make more accounts they are making a lot of account and sell to others. but honestly i dont know if this is allowed or not.. but according to term it is ok to make account multiple times here but the problem i didnt see that it is allowed to sell accounts here unless if the owner have no plan to use the account again..

Theirs no rule prohibit accounts trade but this doing are very discourable and not really a good thing to do, since many frauds buying high ranks account now just to fool people here, and the higher rank they can get the more people they might get scam its because sometimes newbie are looking for rank to trust not the intention or background of that account.

And by the way, there are no a things to prevent it? in my opinions the trade of account is already making a losing for a lot of people from the higher rank or level account is using for fraud.

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Quote from: john2231 on August 21, 2016, 04:20:52 AM

Quote from: zeaderza on August 21, 2016, 04:17:25 AM

Quote from: dragunfly on August 18, 2016, 12:02:06 PM

yes it is allowed, but some people don't like that as you can buy old account and others will think you that you have been here for long time so they will trust you more

some people don't like it because scammers buy accounts for cheap and start scamming easily with high ranked account and showing their self trusted, and this is true. account sales is pretty much encourages scam here.
people should not sell accounts here.

Yeah many people here are trying to make more accounts they are making a lot of account and sell to others. but honestly i dont know if this is allowed or not.. but according to term it is ok to make account multiple times here but the problem i didnt see that it is allowed to sell accounts here unless if the owner have no plan to use the account again..

Theirs no rule prohibit accounts trade but this doing are very discourable and not really a good thing to do, since many frauds buying high ranks account now just to fool people here, and the higher rank they can get the more people they might get scam its because sometimes newbie are looking for rank to trust not the intention or background of that account.

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Quote from: tiggytomb on August 11, 2016, 11:48:42 AM

It is allowed but personally I am not a fan, because it then gives the illusion that the user has been here for a long time and people tend to put more trust in an account that has been active for a few years.

Especially in the HYIP area and new altcoins, these accounts could scam a lot of people, but then there may be legitimate buyers that want a higher account so they can join a signature campaign.

That's just my view, I don't agree with it but it is what it is.

I'm new but i still agree with this 100% it makes perfect sense, it would be way too easy to defraud someone and gain much more trust than said person buying a high ranking account should have as someone that's not even a member could stumble across it and you have had no interaction with this person before and it could be absolutely anybody and you have no idea what their intentions are.

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Quote from: zeaderza on August 21, 2016, 04:17:25 AM

Quote from: dragunfly on August 18, 2016, 12:02:06 PM

yes it is allowed, but some people don't like that as you can buy old account and others will think you that you have been here for long time so they will trust you more

some people don't like it because scammers buy accounts for cheap and start scamming easily with high ranked account and showing their self trusted, and this is true. account sales is pretty much encourages scam here.
people should not sell accounts here.

Yeah many people here are trying to make more accounts they are making a lot of account and sell to others. but honestly i dont know if this is allowed or not.. but according to term it is ok to make account multiple times here but the problem i didnt see that it is allowed to sell accounts here unless if the owner have no plan to use the account again..

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Quote from: dragunfly on August 18, 2016, 12:02:06 PM

yes it is allowed, but some people don't like that as you can buy old account and others will think you that you have been here for long time so they will trust you more

some people don't like it because scammers buy accounts for cheap and start scamming easily with high ranked account and showing their self trusted, and this is true. account sales is pretty much encourages scam here.
people should not sell accounts here.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on August 19, 2016, 01:12:00 PM

Quote from: JeWay on August 11, 2016, 10:43:03 AM

So, some time ago there's this user who gave me a red trust because of selling an account. He said that selling account isn't allowed on this forum.
So please answer the question, "Is it allowed to sell Bitcointalk account?"

You are Sr. member so i think definitely you know about it.

Totally he needs to reading their trusted summary with more detailed. average people in here is not interested or feeling that about buying and selling account, the chance can using for criminal (scam)is very big.

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