Topic: Is it easier to earn Merit without a signature? (Read 556 times)

In most cases your participation won't affect on getting merits. It mostly depends on quality and usability of your posts.

I myself personally don't look if a member is wearing a signature or not as basis for giving them merits it is like having a personal biased on signature wearers which I don't think is right in giving merits. I also always look on the posts itself but not who is the one who post it as I don't look for their names in order not to affect if I will be sending merits or not.

If you think his answer was helpful, why didn't you send him a merit point!! I think this is the answer to your question "treat others the way you want to be treated"

Can someone tell me how exactly i can earn merits im a new newbie

Data on the Merit Dashboard is show in terms of awarded sMerit on the Section/subsection tab.
Direct link:BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard.

Yes, we had an interesting conversation on Meta regarding the Altcoin Section recently as can be seen in this thread: Should ANN and services threads be excluded from the merit system ?. I don’t think we’ll change anything, but at least we blew some steam off on the matter.

The Dashboard is pretty big, so a laptop is better suited to see the amount of available information and to play around with the filters.

Is this order by total merits or merits per post? If latter, then this merit system isn't so great afterall. I mean, economics is ok but altcoin Ann, please.

I won't go and see for myself because my phone doesn't show that properly, I tried.

putting signature and removing signature wont affect anything. all you can do is to keep posting and dont lose hope share quality content and you wil see some differences. earning merit is tough but not impossible

If your post is good enough, signatures shouldn't be a problem, and now many people have set up signatures.
Therefore, what matters is the content of the article.
But to be honest, the Merit are really hard to get.

Honestly I didn't agree with you. Wether some member doing signature campaigns or not should be the base for giving Merits. I think sometimes person who didn't do bounties does not mean that member contributes to the forum greater ways. May be that member is shitposting more than the member who do the signature campaigns.

I think some members looking at their reputation in the forum ( I also think it matters ) before giving away their sMerits. Though Bitcointalk is not a money making place, I don't think getting some passive income while contributing to the forum is not a big issue. I don't need to do any signature campaigns to earn few bucks since I covered my income sources. But sometimes we didn't know about other members story from their point of view.

I don't encourage to do Bounties or signature campaigns since most of the occasions it ends up creating spammers/shitposters. That's how typical behavior of humans when it comes to the money. Finally I want to quote what our great "Theymos" said about Merits. However at the end of the day, it's up to the members how they should spend their hard earned Merits since it's theirs not the people who commentating( including me) about how they should spend

It's aboujt how helpful your posts are, how much thought and work you put into them and some luck (the person who is reading it needs to have some sendable merits)

There are some who prefer to give merits to signatureless members.  They think that by being signatureless, that member's intention is not to make bitcointalk a money-making site but to really learn and contribute to the community (this attitude is highly encouraged which gives that signatureless member a thumbs-up).

Many will scrutinize your post first if it deserves a merit then look at your post history if you are a spammer/shitposter then they will analyze your intention and decide if they will give you a merit or not. (Hence, the merit that you will get does not depend on just your current post but also on your previous posts)

However, most of the members do not associate signature campaign and giving merits.  They just look at your post and then decide if it is merit-worthy or not.

Earning merit is somewhat hard to earn as for now. There will be no difference even your wearing signature or not its up to the quality of your post to earn merit.

This is very common question which you have asked.

First thing you have to know that there are no relation between signature campaign and merit, cause merit is totally dependable on your contribution to this forum. If your contribution or knowledge help others then you will get merit, and other hand signature campaign is the main key to earn money for all bitcoiners, so everybody in this forum can use signature campaign from very first day if they are eligible to the certain campaign.
But my opinion is that dont focus on merit just focus on learning and grow your knowledge day by day so that you can contribute to this forum with lots of new and good thing.

By the end wish you happy bitcoin or cryptocurrency journey...

It's hard to get merit, but as long as we can access in bitcoin forums it is an with be. We cannot do about thier meriting system.

The signature does not affect merit. It is not easy to get merits, but it is necessary to make quality posts. For today very few moderators handing out merits.
If you participate in bounty companies and want to continue to receive merit you should not do a huge number of meaningless posts just to reach a certain number of posts per week.

thank you

To me it does not matter if you are wearing a signature or not. I know that there are a lot of Sighaters on this forum and they dislike and also discount anything that a signature member is posting, but that is their loss. I have seen some of the best posts being done by signature members on this forum, because they are measured and judged by their signature managers and by other people that hate them.

A member that does not belong to a signature campaign can simply post what they want, but signature campaign members have to abide by the signature campaign rules and have to scrutinize every post they make. Quality posts takes a lot of time and extra effort.  

There is no relationship between them and they will not affect each other. Signature is just a promotion method. It doesn't matter with your posts. Sometimes the signature will be deleted because of its own data problem, but it won't affect you to get merit.

In relation to post positioning and its relation to getting merited (quality/interest aside), I did an in-depth study on merited posts analyzing features such as with/without image, with/without quotes, post number (position within thread), post date, time between posting and receiving merit and post length. You can see the whole study here: Forum Merited Messages- Does size count?.

In terms of post position within the thread, 15% of merited posts are OPs (first post), being 40,21% awarded to posts within the first page of posts in a thread.
Surprisingly, 32,58% of merited posts are on mega threads, 40,31% if we count post position 201 onwards. Ann sections and Economy (The Wall Observer is the extreme case) are behind these cases. These sections conform their own ecosystems and follow patterns that only happen there.

(post number is post position within thread. This is a global overall view, which will vary if we focus on a specific forum section/subsection).


Aside from post position, images tend not to help (statistics and a few others a logical exceptions).  Also 56,50% of the merited posts are merited within the first 24 hours, adding up to 76,97% within the first week after the post is published.
Post do not need to be too lengthy either, since 65,07% of merited posts contain less than 100 words, with an additional 18,41% between 100 and 200 words. Longer posts do seem to get more merits, but cases are fewer and have studies and information that require the post to be long.

Even with all the said above (which is really about the meta-structure of the post), it is the content that matters, and that is not statistically derivable.

I believe that the idea should be to post less, but with much more thought and/or research in each post. The more post of this kind, the more chances (but you need to invest a lot more time). On the other hand, posting lots of crappy posts standout way too much on the posting history, and the history is what builds your character and is often checked before awarding merit.

It won't make any difference if you decide not to put on a signature. The merit will be given only when your post is deem fit for it, not just removing a signature. Those with already merits like 10 and 100 merits obtained it automatically when the merit was introduce into bitcointalk forum.