Topic: Is it easier to earn Merit without a signature? - page 2. (Read 556 times)

From what I have seen, simply posting more does not increase your chances of receiving merits. Quality is still the primary requirement.

1. I think the first post in a thread is more likely to receive merits, so starting more threads may increase your chances. However, quality still seems to be a necessary requirement, so a single post with thoughtful, insightful, and valuable content is more likely to receive merits than any number of mediocre posts.

2. I believe that a reply posted earlier in a thread is more likely to receive merits. Replying early gives you the chance to state something that hasn't already been stated. Also, once a thread winds up or starts filling up with worthless replies, readers stop caring about it. Take this reply, for example. It might a quality post, considering the time and effort I have put into it, but it is #33, so I doubt that many people will read it, and even fewer will consider giving it merit.

3. Don't bother posting in "mega-threads". There are many mega-threads with hundreds of replies and none of the replies receive any merit. Anything you might want to say in a mega-thread has already been stated many times, and nobody cares about an opinion that has already been stated 100 times.

4. You will easily exceed the activity requirement for a rank long before you reach the merit requirement. Unfortunately, many people have not yet figured that out and the forum continues to be flooded with worthless posts.

Anyway, that's how I see it.

- I don´t care if you are on a campaign. You are supporting a project and that is not wrong. Most times you will get nothing.

- No. Posting 10 sh*ts a day won´t make you earn merit. Posting 10 great posts increases your chances of a merit source finding them and you also help the forum.

- I don´t take into account if you have also "fill in" posts, as long as they are not in "serious discussion" or sections where they are irrelevant. Campaigns require them and if the forum does not want these they can limit the number of posts allowed for campaigns.

Now, there just one thing that will get you perma-ignored: Trading merit or farming accounts. That is a NO-NO.

Excellent data! That leads me to my next question, is it good to makes tons a post every day? Would posting 10 times a day increase the chances of getting merit? Low quality posts would make it lower, but let's assume each post is of the same high quality. Would more posts mean more merit? Or would members check my profile and see lots of posts per day, and that may come off as spam?

To be honest, I think that it has nothing to do with your signature when it comes to the point of gaining merits. The merit feature is still new so it will take some time to inculcate the habit of awarding merits to others. If you are concerned about it then you should focus on sharing your knowledge in a best possible way with others. Since there are some limits on the outgoing number of merits, everyone would consider high standards to determine the quality of the post before sending the merits.

In my own opinion, the best way to earn merits is not to expect or focus on the merit itself. Being genuine in helping out to this forum is the main key for you to get merits. No need to rush things just to rank up with all shitty posts.

Types of post that mostly get merited are good quality, conatructive in any ways, contributing to the forum. Even if you have signature you would still get merited if your topic or post is helpful and informative.

I've been taking a look at the data I downloaded this weekend. Focusing on all the merited users, the aggregates are as follows:

Rank   %WithSignature   AvgTotalMerit_NO_Signature   AvgTotalMerit_Signature
Jr. Member             53%             3,52                                       3,11
Member                 74%             8,67                                       9,71
Full Member           78%           10,20                                      12,31
Sr. Member            75%           16,11                                      15,71
Hero                      74%           12,44                                      20,10   
Legendary             74%           18,92                                      25,05
(I’ve skipped out the other ranks)

The merit taken into account is the received merit through a merit TX (therefore not considering initial airdropped merit per rank). The average is simply the rank’s total receives merit divided by the number of users in the rank that have received a merit TX (done for signature and non-signature bearers).

The signature is derived from checking whether the merited user profile has content in the Signature field, or not. We cannot therefore distinguish between a campaign signature and a personal signature (such as a personal message, a bitcoin address, etc.).
In addition, the signature is “as is now”: If a user dropped his signature yesterday, he falls into de “no signature category” (to do it 100% accurately, we would need to know the signature status at the moment of receiving the merit TX. This is impossible with current datasets).

The data suggests that baring/not baring a signature is not significant on the lower and mid-range levels, but has a positive influence in Heroes and Legendries. Perhaps it has to do with a larger amount of posts being placed (therefore, more writing more posts and better content could lead to the average being significantly higher).

No, merit are not related to signatures. If you post badly you will never get sMerit.

Thanks for your information.

Useful thread for newbie to keep in mind in the future. I guess quality of posts is much more important than any other factors (eg: wearing signature or not) thanks!

Merit's acquisition and signature have nothing to do!
If you publish a good article and others like your article, they will give you Merit!
Will not affect your Merit because you wear a signature!

I think each case should be judged on its own merit. (pardon the pun!)

If the person is providing quality responses and contributing to the forum in a 'normal' fashion, trying to join in and genuinely here for the right reasons, then of course a signature campaign shouldn't influence someone's decision to award merits or not.

I find it fascinating that people would purposely overlook someone because of wearing a signature actually, i think its childish and akin to bullying almost. My take is, if you are here and you are active, contributing, looking and learning- you might aswell wear a signature right? You shouldn't be judged by someone because of what you're wearing! 

Just my opinion BTW.

I don't look at signatures, so they don't affect my attitude as a merit source. However, I think that signatures have an effect on the poster. This thread is an indication of this to a certain extent. The need to post continuously regardless of the potetial for decent posts, reduces the quality of posts in my opinion. This can affect the reputation of the poster. Another problem seems to be the need to 'jazz up' low value posts with pictures and formatting, and this can result in the poster being added to ignore lists.

If you prostitute yourself by selling your signature, you have to put up with a lower quality in your love life with the forum.

If we filter the dashboard on the section/subsection tab by the month of May (so as to get a close reference and not a cumulative one), it would be altcoin Ann, Russian, meta, marketplace, economics, and altcoin discussion in this order.

Some of the above have their own ecosystems. Altcoin Ann for example awards often the OPs who create the Ann and these back to some of the contributions to their threads.

Regardless, it’s not a matter of which are the most awarded sections, but finding how to contribute to them through your posts and create well versed opinions or information based content. Visibility also needs to be pondered (I don’t mean posting arts, but where you post. I.e. mega threads are likely to be not read by many since they tend to be spam threads - Wall Observer is an exception for those in that ecosystem).

There is no directly connect merit with signature campaign. But I think indirectly connected. Because every bounty has a condition like you have to post minimum 15 per week. This is the main reasones for spam on forum. In case some one visit your profile he will see spam and he will not give you merit.

So my suggest make some constructive and useful post to earn merit. There is no any shortcut way to earn merit.

I guess it really doesn't matter at all because merits are based on your posts. If you were able to contribute a very helpful quality posts in this forum and someone finds it deserving to get merits then you will certainly get one. It really depends on the people reading your posts.
In my own opinion, the best way to earn merits is not to expect or focus on the merit itself. Being genuine in helping out to this forum is the main key for you to get merits. No need to rush things just to rank up with all shitty posts. It would be so self satisfying and fulfilling seeing someone agreeing to my posts through a merit which I really made effort of than posting shitty posts and asking merits to someone just to rank up. We should start by developing our way of thinking and the way we do post in this forum for us to evolve in a way where we can contribute not only to the forum but to the soon to be new crypto enthusiasts that needs our assistance when it comes to crypto knowledge and technicalities.

There is no direct relationship between them; merits are a reflection of good posts not wear the signature "This means there will be no change if you maintain the same level of your posts."
However, if you are an average post/topic and do not wear a signature, I will give you merit and vice versa.
Merits like fish, you need patience and care to collect them but do not concentrate on raising them.

Having a signature won't stop you from getting more merits. Merits are usually earned if your post is reliable and helpful. If the other users thought that your post is quite helpful then they will send you some merits if they have sMerits. sMerits are the merits a user can give to other members who have good quality posts.

I think it does not matter, it depends on the quality of the post , the person that decides to give you merit it would not be concerned about your signature at all, at least me personally would not do something like that

Thanks for the reponse. I knew some people don't. Not sure why some people said that it can't make a difference when it does for some.