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Topic: Is it illegal for someone to hack my BTC wallet? - page 4. (Read 15260 times)

newbie
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hI,

iT WAS GOOD QUESTION..

OFCOURSE NOT , no one can hack our account without our permition...

Eventhough, they have your passwor too they still need our permition...
sr. member
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of course yes! It is illegal to hack others bitcoin wallet, because bitcoin wallet is private account of a one person who are investing in the cryptocurrency and taking a risk to earn a high amount of money,
 that's why hacking it is so illegal and it's not accepted in our government because it is a part of cyber crime. Don't hack someones bitcoin wallet for you to not get in prison.
newbie
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No, you should not give to anyone your private key, if that happens then all your assets and all your coions will be stole.
newbie
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Digital theft can be one scenario. However, since the use of Bitcoin is out of any government's domain, there are no definite requisites to prove criminal actions there.
hero member
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All of those scenarios look like theft. Problem is the authorities ain't gonna care enough to do anything about it. Those guys are geared to nail single moms taking nappies from the store, not remote crimes of stuff they don't understand.

Good point. What the hacker did is actually wrong and is considered a crime under theft. However the problem is that not many countries (especially those who belong the third world countries) do not recognize digital theft. I guess when you're in country who does take this situation seriously, then you are lucky. It's unfortunate how if this happens and you can't do anything about it since the authority does not understand what this platform is and sometimes the government does not recognize it. Hopefully, the time would come that a certain protection or measure is established for everyone's wallet security and safety.
Yes hacking is a crime, If a person is unable to earn bitcoin by himself or make out high profit of investment then why to get others hard work. They work hard to make some money in order to make their living better and their money gets steeled then it's a crime.

Government is busy in making money for them self and pay no attention to mass, why would they care if the mass gets a loss when they are having their pocket full of money
sr. member
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I think it is obviously illegal. The invasion of someone’s property without the consent of the owner is a fraud and illegal thing which leads to them a imprisonment.
The company of bitcoin does not tolerate this illegal things and they will provide immediate action for this activities.
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Yes of course it is illegal. That's the same as stealing our money. But on the other side, in a country that has not legalized the bitcoin and we filed the case to the law, I think we cant get legal protection because bitcoin is considered illegal by the government.
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All of those scenarios look like theft. Problem is the authorities ain't gonna care enough to do anything about it. Those guys are geared to nail single moms taking nappies from the store, not remote crimes of stuff they don't understand.

Yes, I'm not sure if authorities will considered it as a crime. Sometime they will only tell you that they understand your situation but they will tell you that there is still no laws for that kind of crime or maybe just ignore because they don't know or don't have any idea what you're talking to.
This is true which it would really depend on the laws regarding on this matter into your country but majority wont even know that bitcoin does exist or if they do they would neglect you since they cant do nothing and theres no such law regarding to it. In the sense of hacking or stealing your btc wallet it is indeed illegal since it do consider as theft but in legal laws its not been considered . This is why we should really be careful on our wallet for not to be accessed by someone because if it does then you cant do nothing to retrieve it.
newbie
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Keep safe yourself on way & always keep clean your PC from effective virus. Don’t click unknown link from an unknown person. You can use a good antivirus also never save your password on browser.
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All of those scenarios look like theft. Problem is the authorities ain't gonna care enough to do anything about it. Those guys are geared to nail single moms taking nappies from the store, not remote crimes of stuff they don't understand.

Yes, I'm not sure if authorities will considered it as a crime. Sometime they will only tell you that they understand your situation but they will tell you that there is still no laws for that kind of crime or maybe just ignore because they don't know or don't have any idea what you're talking to.
newbie
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Here the hackers do not need,I wanted to translate dogcon with dogcon wallet to another wallet,but the dogs never came.Out YouTube as there are videos that Satoshi lost in translation and it is the fault of the developers of blockchain wallet.
newbie
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I'm not clear on this one point.  If somebody got a hold of my private key and moved funds from an address that I claimed on the ledger, is that against the law?  At what point could that be considered a crime?  For example, if they hacked into my machine and stolen the private key; if they sniped the pk while snooping on a public access connection; brute forced the pk into existence; or just plane snapped a shot of my qr code over my shoulder....ect  In which of those examples could I pursue prosecution for the theft of my coin?  

It's little bit technical but in summary i think it's regarded as digital theft. In advanced countries that recognised digital theft, you can make a case out of it. Though it's difficult to proof brute forced as an illegal or digital theft.
sr. member
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I'm not clear on this one point.  If somebody got a hold of my private key and moved funds from an address that I claimed on the ledger, is that against the law?  At what point could that be considered a crime?  For example, if they hacked into my machine and stolen the private key; if they sniped the pk while snooping on a public access connection; brute forced the pk into existence; or just plane snapped a shot of my qr code over my shoulder....ect  In which of those examples could I pursue prosecution for the theft of my coin? 
Yes ofcourse its illegal and any person whom you don't allow access to your money takes access in any unethical manner would be illegal. But problem is which country's law is going to give you shelter in such a crime. I dont know any country which pertains any law regarding bitcoin theft. Moreover private key doesn't has any owners name affixed with it. So it will be a heck of problem for you to claim that these btc were actually yours.

the state will not be willing to assist you because no rules apply, all ownership is your responsibility, very ironic, but if individual theft cases apply, there will be no valid evidence in the process of case recapitulation that requires at least two evidences. unless you follow a HYIP crypto that is currently running in your country and result in a loss, then the owner can be processed with a fraud case.
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I'm not clear on this one point.  If somebody got a hold of my private key and moved funds from an address that I claimed on the ledger, is that against the law?  At what point could that be considered a crime?  For example, if they hacked into my machine and stolen the private key; if they sniped the pk while snooping on a public access connection; brute forced the pk into existence; or just plane snapped a shot of my qr code over my shoulder....ect  In which of those examples could I pursue prosecution for the theft of my coin? 
Yes ofcourse its illegal and any person whom you don't allow access to your money takes access in any unethical manner would be illegal. But problem is which country's law is going to give you shelter in such a crime. I dont know any country which pertains any law regarding bitcoin theft. Moreover private key doesn't has any owners name affixed with it. So it will be a heck of problem for you to claim that these btc were actually yours.
newbie
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So,

1) If they hacked into my machine and stole the private key; (illegal)
2) If they sniped the pk while snooping on a public access connection; (illegal)
3) If they brute forced the private key into existence; (not illegal)
4) If they snapped a shot of my private key qr code over my shoulder at an ATM. (not illegal)

What if I claimed an address on the block chain with a signature and 3 or 4 happened?  Would I have a case then?

If 3) happens then all Bitcoins become worthless and the question would become:  If I take something which is worth nothing is it illegal?

Well I guess you could argue that even though all Bitcoins are now worthless they still might have sentimental value.

I think bitcoin would still have value because the bad actor would not expose themselves....right? Would he have an incentive to keep the method a secret?

See, that's what's got me re-thinking some of these points....How would we prove that 3 or 4 happened, unless the bad actor exposed the method?  And, what new legislation might be proposed to protect public ledger breeches?  It's kind of scary thinking about the public space being legislated (which could be proposed due to bitcoin's market capital reaching such high numbers)....Sometimes legislation that's passed through has unintended consequences when it comes to personal liberties....
sr. member
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No since there is no law surrounding bitcoin, the same way it's not illegal to create an exchange and steal all the money, they will not be charged

My government still forbid bitcoin , it means that bitcoin user have their own risk and responsible with their bitcoin.
I'm already aware that happen so I keep prepare myself for the worst and always becareful every time when I try to do transaction especially on public place. ( bitcoin getting expensive, more criminal attempt will come )
to me i think it’s not about charging the criminal or hacker it’s about whether it’s legal or not to hack one’s wallet. Hacking is illegal not only here but also in other fields. To avoid such things one should try to use safe accounts and keep his wallet offline, do not share your data with anyone and keep your wallet worth a secret, you will then not face any situation.
full member
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All of those scenarios look like theft. Problem is the authorities ain't gonna care enough to do anything about it. Those guys are geared to nail single moms taking nappies from the store, not remote crimes of stuff they don't understand.

Good point. What the hacker did is actually wrong and is considered a crime under theft. However the problem is that not many countries (especially those who belong the third world countries) do not recognize digital theft. I guess when you're in country who does take this situation seriously, then you are lucky. It's unfortunate how if this happens and you can't do anything about it since the authority does not understand what this platform is and sometimes the government does not recognize it. Hopefully, the time would come that a certain protection or measure is established for everyone's wallet security and safety.
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Hacking by definition is wrong and what makes it illegal is that fact it goes against the laid down rules.
Looking at this issue critically, we realize that calling hacking illegal doesn't make hackers to stop hacking even though it is illegal.  So the best thing to do is to keep our account secured.
I'd advise you make use of blockchain wallet if you haven't been using it. It is most secured wallet you can ever find.
newbie
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In the countries where it's recognized as money, it would be.

I hadn't heard about that happening. Does anyone have a list of which countries BitCoin has been officially declared a currency?

Germany has declared it a private currency:

And seriously, read the title of the webpage. It's Bitcoin, not BitCoin.

It's the "virtual goods" part that makes it curious.
If you use bad crypto and I steal your Bitcoins is that more like me breaking into your house and stealing your cash (illegal) or more like me ganking you in a full-loot MMO and stealing the in-game stuff you bought with real money (legal)? Are Bitcoins more like dollars or EVE money where the law is concerned?

It's kind of a problematic situation though. How do you prove ownership of an address? Usually you only have your private key (so you could, for example, sign a message with your private key and people could check that you are in possession of said key). But if a crypto cracker gets your key, both of you kind of have 'proof of ownership'.
Unless you can show that, e.g., salary payments from your employer went to that address, proving ownership will be a problem.


Just like cash
Edit: Why the downvotes...?

Well, but to steal cash you generally have to commit some other sort of crime, like burglary or robbery, that generates a risk of being caught.
If you look at section 4.4 of this paper the authors effectively prove that someone has stolen 59 Bitcoins from 158 different addresses when people (or software) mistakenly reused nonces. Those people lost their coins anonymously with no recourse.
It's not clear if that's a crime, hence the topic.
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