I was wondering when that thread would get into Meta
Anyways killing the coins with no innovation to the protocol is a community response to all the tom dick and jerry coins that get premined and then sent out into the wilderness
Seems like natural selection to me the best coins survive and the coins that can't adapt or change fall back into obscurity
From the community response you can tell its a far larger rage issue than it appears at first glance.
Topic: Is it OK to use Bitcointalk to organize criminal enterprises? (Read 1911 times)
Give it a rest already.
It was the zeroc00l noob that came up with the "extorsion" post, and others noobs picked it to throw mud at everyone, even those that can't stand the outright IPO/premine scams but aren't part of the initiative or on the sidelines.
How convenient that post was for the scammers and shitcoin shills, must I say...
It was the zeroc00l noob that came up with the "extorsion" post, and others noobs picked it to throw mud at everyone, even those that can't stand the outright IPO/premine scams but aren't part of the initiative or on the sidelines.
How convenient that post was for the scammers and shitcoin shills, must I say...
Haven't you figured out yet that this is the Wild West and Bitcoin is the gold rush? Yes, extortion is ok, prostitution for Bitcoins is ok, ponzi's for Bitcoin is ok, drugs for Bitcoin is ok. Basically anything that you wouldn't normally do in civilized society is ok in Bitcoinland. The faster you come to terms with that the better you'll fit in here.
Extortion is evident in IP laws. Prostitution in lobbying. Ponzi's exist in various forms in most financial assets nowadays.
And drugs not in civilized society? Seriously? Who do you think you're convincing, anyway?
wohooooooo the number of pages on the thread is 48 
Jesus Christ.................
I personally feel there is no coin in the market who can be a threat to bitcoin at least no coin till yet. All the clone coins won't survive for long that's for sure so i don't think there is any good reason to run a riot against the cloned coins instead let them face their misery or success whatever comes on their part.
Jesus Christ.................I personally feel there is no coin in the market who can be a threat to bitcoin at least no coin till yet. All the clone coins won't survive for long that's for sure so i don't think there is any good reason to run a riot against the cloned coins instead let them face their misery or success whatever comes on their part.
Since bitcoin may be made illegal in some places, your also participating in a criminal enterprise.
Ross Ulbricht isn't in prison because he used Bitcoin.
He's in prison because he was running a criminal enterprise. And he got caught because of posts he made on this very forum.
And at the time, I'm sure there were idiots running around saying, "They can't arrest him for running Silk Road because bitcoin might be illegal, so using Bitcoin's just as bad as running Silk Road and blah blah blah." Yet Ross is in prison.
And let me say this again -- he's in prison because of posts he made on Bitcointalk.
I've come to accept that people around here have no morals. But do you not have a single drop of commons sense, either?
Since bitcoin may be made illegal in some places, your also participating in a criminal enterprise.
I didn't say I supported any of it. I bitched myself blue telling people Pirate was a thieving piece of shit. I was one of the first ones doing it. I tried to tell everyone to stop playing satochidice or they'll end up broke. I warned several friends to stop using SR or they'll end up in the middle of a mess when the cops finally close in on them. It doesn't matter what you believe. What I said was, the faster you come to terms with that the better you'll fit in here.
OK, gotcha. That does make sense, unfortunately.
My part is in this operation is brute strength, what ever coins they decide to kill as long as it is not a primary alt is fine by me. I don't even need a reason.
And the way they are deciding is by who pays the extortion.
So while you may not be receiving the extortion payments directly, your conspirators are. And if your fellow thugs don't receive their payments, they just point you in the right direction and you do their bidding, no questions asked, right? And you don't even get a cut of the money they're bringing in. Basically, you're their little bitch.
Haven't you figured out yet that this is the Wild West and Bitcoin is the gold rush? Yes, extortion is ok, prostitution for Bitcoins is ok, ponzi's for Bitcoin is ok, drugs for Bitcoin is ok. Basically anything that you wouldn't normally do in civilized society is ok in Bitcoinland. The faster you come to terms with that the better you'll fit in here.
I didn't realize that you had to check your morality at the door when you obtained your first bitcoin.
So are you telling me that no one around here believes that there is any difference between right and wrong?
QuestionAuthority, do you support child porn, as long as they pay for it with Bitcoin?
I didn't say I supported any of it. I bitched myself blue telling people Pirate was a thieving piece of shit. I was one of the first ones doing it. I tried to tell everyone to stop playing satochidice or they'll end up broke. I warned several friends to stop using SR or they'll end up in the middle of a mess when the cops finally close in on them. It doesn't matter what you believe. What I said was, the faster you come to terms with that the better you'll fit in here.
Anyway, I think I got my answer.
Bitcointalk is just fine with this forum being used to organize a criminal enterprise.
You know, Silk Road thought they were above the law, too.
They got caught, and they were trying to hide. Bitcointalk isn't trying to hide at all.
Bitcointalk is just fine with this forum being used to organize a criminal enterprise.
You know, Silk Road thought they were above the law, too.
They got caught, and they were trying to hide. Bitcointalk isn't trying to hide at all.
My part is in this operation is brute strength, what ever coins they decide to kill as long as it is not a primary alt is fine by me. I don't even need a reason.
And the way they are deciding is by who pays the extortion.
So while you may not be receiving the extortion payments directly, your conspirators are. And if your fellow thugs don't receive their payments, they just point you in the right direction and you do their bidding, no questions asked, right? And you don't even get a cut of the money they're bringing in. Basically, you're their little bitch.
Haven't you figured out yet that this is the Wild West and Bitcoin is the gold rush? Yes, extortion is ok, prostitution for Bitcoins is ok, ponzi's for Bitcoin is ok, drugs for Bitcoin is ok. Basically anything that you wouldn't normally do in civilized society is ok in Bitcoinland. The faster you come to terms with that the better you'll fit in here.
I didn't realize that you had to check your morality at the door when you obtained your first bitcoin.
So are you telling me that no one around here believes that there is any difference between right and wrong?
QuestionAuthority, do you support child porn, as long as they pay for it with Bitcoin? Slavery? Murder? From what you've said so far, I'm guessing it's a big yes to all 3.
My part is in this operation is brute strength, what ever coins they decide to kill as long as it is not a primary alt is fine by me. I don't even need a reason.
And the way they are deciding is by who pays the extortion.
So while you may not be receiving the extortion payments directly, your conspirators are. And if your fellow thugs don't receive their payments, they just point you in the right direction and you do their bidding, no questions asked, right? And you don't even get a cut of the money they're bringing in. Basically, you're their little bitch.
Haven't you figured out yet that this is the Wild West and Bitcoin is the gold rush? Yes, extortion is ok, prostitution for Bitcoins is ok, ponzi's for Bitcoin is ok, drugs for Bitcoin is ok. Basically anything that you wouldn't normally do in civilized society is ok in Bitcoinland. The faster you come to terms with that the better you'll fit in here.
My part is in this operation is brute strength, what ever coins they decide to kill as long as it is not a primary alt is fine by me. I don't even need a reason.
And the way they are deciding is by who pays the extortion.
So while you may not be receiving the extortion payments directly, your conspirators are. And if your fellow thugs don't receive their payments, they just point you in the right direction and you do their bidding, no questions asked, right? And you don't even get a cut of the money they're bringing in. Basically, you're their little bitch.
If an alt-coin, or even bitcoin, needs me to hold it's hand and protect it then it is not going to work anyway.
Sounds like free market action to me. I don't understand your problem.
So if someone came up to you and said, give me $2,000 or I'll burn your house down while you're sleeping, that would be fine with you? Just the free market at work, right?
In any case, it doesn't matter what you or the members of this criminal gang think. It's not a surprise that thugs think it's perfectly OK to strongarm people into giving you money. But the law is clear. This is extortion.
How exactly is this a criminal enterprise? The community needs this. In fact, I think BitcoinTalk administrators should be pressured to moderate the alt-coin announcement forums more severely
I thought I spelled this out VERY clearly, but lets try again.
Extortion is a crime.
Extortion is intimidating people into paying you money, and if they don't bad things will happen to them.
These thugs are requiring alt coin providers to pay them a fee (20 BTC), and if they don't pay, they destroy they coin and launch a DDOS attack against pools mining it.
Two of the organizers are themselves creators of shit coins. The just want to reduce the competition so the price of their coins go up.
Other organizers are pool operators who are excited about getting idiotic sheep to launch DDOS attacks against their competitors.
But it has NOTHING to do with cleaning up alt coins. If a coin dev pays, they won't touch that coin, no matter how shitty it is.
That is extortion. No question about it.
Sounds like free market action to me. I dont't understand your problem.
For the record, I am not part of any extortion team. You cannot pay me enough to not kill your coin if I decide to. I'm not sure how these guys are going to use "BCX" method to kill anything as I have a rather large "private pool" along with a substantial amount of my own hash rate both Scrypt and ASIC SHA.
My part is in this operation is brute strength, what ever coins they decide to kill as long as it is not a primary alt is fine by me. I don't even need a reason.
~BCX~
what is your opinion on more innovative coins (eg nxt, pts or mcs; hopefully more in the future).
i like your reasoning
How exactly is this a criminal enterprise? The community needs this. In fact, I think BitcoinTalk administrators should be pressured to moderate the alt-coin announcement forums more severely
I thought I spelled this out VERY clearly, but lets try again.
Extortion is a crime.
Extortion is intimidating people into paying you money, and if they don't bad things will happen to them.
These thugs are requiring alt coin providers to pay them a fee (20 BTC), and if they don't pay, they destroy they coin and launch a DDOS attack against pools mining it.
Two of the organizers are themselves creators of shit coins. The just want to reduce the competition so the price of their coins go up.
Other organizers are pool operators who are excited about getting idiotic sheep to launch DDOS attacks against their competitors.
But it has NOTHING to do with cleaning up alt coins. If a coin dev pays, they won't touch that coin, no matter how shitty it is.
That is extortion. No question about it.
I don't believe you.
That's your problem, not mine.No, it's not my problem it Bitcoins problem. You have proven yourself to be an untrustworthy negative force in Bitcoin development. You also selectively ignored the spam question again.
How exactly is this a criminal enterprise? The community needs this. In fact, I think BitcoinTalk administrators should be pressured to moderate the alt-coin announcement forums more severely
Get serious, it doesn't fit into our profit model. None of us are holding any altcoins, we don't profit when altcoins succeed and this is a Bitcoin forum. I don't even understand why altcoins want to be here anyway. There are some perfectly reasonable altcoin forums out there and they are setting themselves up to be attacked by Bitcoin lunatics.
I don't believe you.
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