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Quote from: Patatas on April 04, 2019, 06:49:01 PM

Also, what's stopping QS from revealing it? They've nothing to lose.. like their account is already tagged so I wonder what could be the reason.

A corrupt staff member could retaliate by permabanning your account, or even nuking it. Although, with such a move, I'm sure they wouldn't remain staff for long.

Only the admins have the right to ban people I believe? Like how many admins we even have here? All of them are quite trusted and known for taking the right decisions for a long time.. They wouldn't just ban someone for no appropriate reasons.

Quote from: Quickseller on April 04, 2019, 06:55:19 PM

I don’t remember saying this...and I am not aware of any staff farming accounts.

@killyou stop making statements lol

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Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 06:46:12 PM

Quote from: Patatas on April 04, 2019, 06:35:44 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on April 04, 2019, 06:31:52 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on April 04, 2019, 05:15:11 PM

Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 04:26:04 PM

My topic sounds like a fishing expedition? I have proof

I am asking if I blow this person up or not

Shit or get off the pot is what I'm saying.

I find it interesting that you are not taking any kind of stand on the topic itself. Perhaps you’re waiting to see how powerful the person is or the reaction of other powerful people.

What defines a 'powerful' person? The trusted ratings by the DT? Forum staff position? Or something else? DT system at the current state is good enough to take action against a centralized powerful entity. I doubt any forum staff would need to farm/buy-sell accounts.

QS has proof of a staff member doing it but won't blow their spot up.

I don’t remember saying this...~~and I am not aware of any staff farming accounts.~~
edit: a search of old threads and old messages reveals I was aware of this. The selling accounts was done publicly and was a long time ago. I don't think they would retaliate if I called them out, but I have no interest in doing so (see below) /edit

>hilariousandco
He has been accused of doing this over the years. I am not aware of any information that supports him farming accounts. He has a pretty unique personality and I haven’t seen anyone that I think could be him that is not publicly known.

Edit: I wouldn’t necessarily be against a staff member doing this, however if they were enforcing rules for others to prevent this, either via moderation or the trust system, I would have an issue because they are imposing rules on others they are not even following.

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Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 06:46:12 PM

Quote from: Patatas on April 04, 2019, 06:35:44 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on April 04, 2019, 06:31:52 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on April 04, 2019, 05:15:11 PM

Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 04:26:04 PM

My topic sounds like a fishing expedition? I have proof

I am asking if I blow this person up or not

Shit or get off the pot is what I'm saying.

I find it interesting that you are not taking any kind of stand on the topic itself. Perhaps you’re waiting to see how powerful the person is or the reaction of other powerful people.

What defines a 'powerful' person? The trusted ratings by the DT? Forum staff position? Or something else? DT system at the current state is good enough to take action against a centralized powerful entity. I doubt any forum staff would need to farm/buy-sell accounts.

QS has proof of a staff member doing it but won't blow their spot up.

Don't tell me it's 'hilariousandco' because everyone knows they operate two accounts and use them in signature campaigns. Also, everyone will agree that they're amongst the top-notch posters on the forum.

Also, what's stopping QS from revealing it? They've nothing to lose.. like their account is already tagged so I wonder what could be the reason.

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Quote from: Patatas on April 04, 2019, 06:35:44 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on April 04, 2019, 06:31:52 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on April 04, 2019, 05:15:11 PM

Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 04:26:04 PM

My topic sounds like a fishing expedition? I have proof

I am asking if I blow this person up or not

Shit or get off the pot is what I'm saying.

I find it interesting that you are not taking any kind of stand on the topic itself. Perhaps you’re waiting to see how powerful the person is or the reaction of other powerful people.

What defines a 'powerful' person? The trusted ratings by the DT? Forum staff position? Or something else? DT system at the current state is good enough to take action against a centralized powerful entity. I doubt any forum staff would need to farm/buy-sell accounts.

QS has proof of a staff member doing it but won't blow their spot up.

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Quote from: Quickseller on April 04, 2019, 06:31:52 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on April 04, 2019, 05:15:11 PM

Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 04:26:04 PM

My topic sounds like a fishing expedition? I have proof

I am asking if I blow this person up or not

Shit or get off the pot is what I'm saying.

I find it interesting that you are not taking any kind of stand on the topic itself. Perhaps you’re waiting to see how powerful the person is or the reaction of other powerful people.

What defines a 'powerful' person? The trusted ratings by the DT? Forum staff position? Or something else? DT system at the current state is good enough to take action against a centralized powerful entity. I doubt any forum staff would need to farm/buy-sell accounts.

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Quote from: suchmoon on April 04, 2019, 05:15:11 PM

Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 04:26:04 PM

My topic sounds like a fishing expedition? I have proof

I am asking if I blow this person up or not

Shit or get off the pot is what I'm saying.

I find it interesting that you are not taking any kind of stand on the topic itself. Perhaps you’re waiting to see how powerful the person is or the reaction of other powerful people.

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Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 02:06:05 PM

Buy and sell accounts and also farm signature campaigns?

'Farm Signature Campaigns' - If they're not shitposting, getting a good amount of merits for their posts and are adhering with all the rules of the campaign that is not using alt's in the same campaign, I think they should be okay. Buying and selling accounts in 2019, No! One really has to be a very good poster to rank an account let's say upto a senior member by earning legit merits. That is some hard work lol

Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 04:26:04 PM

I am asking if I blow this person up or not

That's upto you. No one is going to force you if you're not willing to do it out of your concern.

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Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 04:26:04 PM

I am asking if I blow this person up or not

depending on how bad the stuff he/she did were, if it's just a minor shity move that did not result in people losing money of any scam related, and that member has changed since then and became somehow a good member for the community, i think you should just let it pass.

looking at your feedback you seem to have changed from an "account seller" and an "extremely annoying" person to a good trusted member, so again , just use your best judgment.

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Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 04:26:04 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on April 04, 2019, 03:06:02 PM

That's not how it works. You don't get to choose a board based on how many users you want to look at it.

Your topic sounds like one of cryptohunter's fishing expeditions. Move it to Reputation and post the details.

My topic sounds like a fishing expedition? I have proof

I am asking if I blow this person up or not

Do you feel that this person is currently putting the community members in peril? If you have proof that a highly trusted member is heavily involved as an account broker, I think the community should know. However, when someone becomes a whistle blower, there is a chance that you will get quite a bit of backlash. Also, if someone is taking steps to conceal that they are trading in accounts, it may be difficult to present proof people will find as credible. If it is a bunch of screenshots, people will dismiss it as being photoshopped, especially if it can be shown that you have a past unresolved misunderstanding with the individual.

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Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 04:26:04 PM

My topic sounds like a fishing expedition? I have proof

I am asking if I blow this person up or not

Shit or get off the pot is what I'm saying.

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Quote from: suchmoon on April 04, 2019, 03:06:02 PM

Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 02:09:24 PM

I think more people look at meta than rep.

I do not want to say who's doing this without getting public opinion for fear of the backlash I will face for potentionally outting someone.

Hopefully the person will see this thread and clear it up.

That's not how it works. You don't get to choose a board based on how many users you want to look at it.

Your topic sounds like one of cryptohunter's fishing expeditions. Move it to Reputation and post the details.

My topic sounds like a fishing expedition? I have proof

I am asking if I blow this person up or not

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Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 02:09:24 PM

...for fear of the backlash I will face for potentionally outting someone.

Spill the beans, ya puss.

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Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 02:09:24 PM

I do not want to say who's doing this without getting public opinion for fear of the backlash I will face for potentionally outting someone.

A legitimate concern with the current state of DT. Look at the years of backlash I received for saying an auction was getting expensive.

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I think this is an obvious no if you are talking about recent account sales and cheating signature campaigns against their company rules, but just having more than one account in signature campaigns is fine, and very old account sales do not matter..
According to the current general consensus as I understand it anyway.

I also concur with the move to Reputation and dumping the dirt..

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Quote from: FFrankie on April 04, 2019, 02:09:24 PM

I think more people look at meta than rep.

I do not want to say who's doing this without getting public opinion for fear of the backlash I will face for potentionally outting someone.

Hopefully the person will see this thread and clear it up.

That's not how it works. You don't get to choose a board based on how many users you want to look at it.

Your topic sounds like one of cryptohunter's fishing expeditions. Move it to Reputation and post the details.

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Quote from: Quickseller on April 04, 2019, 02:18:27 PM

I don’t see why they should be held to any different standards than anyone else.

@LoyceV - I also think it is a bit of a copout to move trust system discussion to reputation. The trust system is ultimately implemented by the administration and they are the ones who are in a position to make changes and/or force changes by way of warning that behavior will lead to being excluded.

Well they don't farm signature campaigns anymore because the rate is too low. Well they said they don't

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No matter of who is doing this now,they also deserves red paint,since most of DTs are against account buying and selling these days.

I am very eager to know who is that most reputed member farming on signature campaigns.

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I don’t see why they should be held to any different standards than anyone else.

@LoyceV - I also think it is a bit of a copout to move trust system discussion to reputation. The trust system is ultimately implemented by the administration and they are the ones who are in a position to make changes and/or force changes by way of warning that behavior will lead to being excluded.

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Quote from: LoyceV on April 04, 2019, 02:08:07 PM

You're posting this in Meta, so yes, based on forum rules, that's okay as long as he's not spamming.
If you'd move this to Reputation, it's not okay.

Who's doing this?

I think more people look at meta than rep.

I do not want to say who's doing this without getting public opinion for fear of the backlash I will face for potentionally outting someone.

Hopefully the person will see this thread and clear it up.

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