Topic: Is it okay to receive a merit from a friend or give some to a friend? (Read 460 times)
February 15, 2018, 09:46:28 AM
I think its fine to give and take some merit from a friend, because it is our choice to whom were going to give our merits especially if they deserve it most. Giving to friends is not a usual type of trading our merits to a friend so we can have it also in return. But if we just keep in mind that, she really had a quality post, he should have a merit as a reward no matter he is a friend of mine or not
February 11, 2018, 03:13:57 PM
it's better not to do such a thing, you better give merit to a good post only, do not look at it adan friends or not, if you melekakukan such things may harm you in the future
February 11, 2018, 10:35:10 AM
Everyone is free to use and give merits to a post that they think deserves to have it, so if you find your friend post quality to be good enough to receive merit, then why not give some just be careful in giving it to them, you have to make sure they deserve it and not because you will get something in return or just giving such merit because you want your friend to rank up.
February 10, 2018, 01:53:08 PM
In my opinion merit is imposed not for a friend, but rather a quality post regardless not your friend or your friend. But make sure it is a quality post to avoid unfair giving and accusations of abuse use.
February 10, 2018, 12:57:03 PM
If your friend has made a quality post, you may give him a merit point. But giving him merits for useless posts is suspicious.
I have the same opinion with you. If someone's article is of good quality, useful and appropriate, then I do not regret a compliment. Bringing them sincerely is also to encourage them to have better posts. Give praise sincerely, in time the praise is meaningful. 
February 10, 2018, 10:17:55 AM
If your friend has made a quality post, you may give him a merit point. But giving him merits for useless posts is suspicious.
I have the same opinion with you. If someone's article is of good quality, useful and appropriate, then I do not regret a compliment. Bringing them sincerely is also to encourage them to have better posts. Give praise sincerely, in time the praise is meaningful.Let me make this clear. "Merit" is not similar to "Like" on facebook or that found in other forum softwares.
According to theymos' guidelines for forum Merit system, merit should be given to those posts which are of substantial quality and not simply posts that one agrees to.
February 10, 2018, 10:02:58 AM
If your friend has made a quality post, you may give him a merit point. But giving him merits for useless posts is suspicious.
I have the same opinion with you. If someone's article is of good quality, useful and appropriate, then I do not regret a compliment. Bringing them sincerely is also to encourage them to have better posts. Give praise sincerely, in time the praise is meaningful. 
February 09, 2018, 01:51:15 AM
1-bitcointalk is a forum to help people's acknowledgment about the crypto word. so if you send smerits only to your friends this forum will not useful for all members.
The majority of people starting these posts don't care about the crypto world - they only care how they can make money, so with this new system, they only care how they rank up the fastest.
February 09, 2018, 01:33:46 AM
This is why we are scared in giving each other some merit ,
You are scared of getting caught giving merit to your friends....
Just hand out merit when you see a quality post, and don't worry about it.
Only worry (as you should) if you are cheating the system.
Vod, I think people are more scared of navigating a policy expectation that isn't consistent and is likely to end up being applied subjectively by whatever high-ranking member or moderator is in the position of dealing out the greatest penalty on any given day.
To the OP, the general consensus I'm seeing among the highest-ranking members is that the only thing that can get you into trouble with merit is actually trying to spend your merit. A post you find valuable, but others do not could lead you to be singled out as a "CHEATER!"
If you spend slowly you're less likely to be the target for the "merit abuse witch hunting" that is likely to grow over the coming months.
And if you see a high-ranking member say "you should be able to spend merit however you want", remember that it only applies to them.
And my question is what is your idea of a quality post?Because for me the quality post that I am thinking is something that are meaningful or helping others to understand something or answering their question .
When you say your ‘friend’ I highly suspect that you mean your alt which is totally against the rules & your trust will be painted red if you’re found to be doing that.
Play by the rules & you’ll get Smerit for your own high quality, constructive posting.
There are no shortcuts here brother.
Play by the rules & you’ll get Smerit for your own high quality, constructive posting.
There are no shortcuts here brother.
Why would you suspect someone, if that someone says "my friend".
It may also possible that the "someone" is really talking about his/her friend here but "we" the community have given negative trust due to "we" suspected as "alts".
I'm not talking anything against you or your concerns. But I'm more interested to know the perspectives of the community regarding the mentioned issue and how they will handle this matter.
If ever I would be questioned about it.
And thanks for all of your answers to my question.
February 08, 2018, 03:48:12 PM
When you say your ‘friend’ I highly suspect that you mean your alt which is totally against the rules & your trust will be painted red if you’re found to be doing that.
Play by the rules & you’ll get Smerit for your own high quality, constructive posting.
There are no shortcuts here brother.
Play by the rules & you’ll get Smerit for your own high quality, constructive posting.
There are no shortcuts here brother.
Why would you suspect someone, if that someone says "my friend".
It may also possible that the "someone" is really talking about his/her friend here but "we" the community have given negative trust due to "we" suspected as "alts".
I'm not talking anything against you or your concerns. But I'm more interested to know the perspectives of the community regarding the mentioned issue and how they will handle this matter.
February 08, 2018, 03:34:31 PM
This is why we are scared in giving each other some merit ,
You are scared of getting caught giving merit to your friends....
Just hand out merit when you see a quality post, and don't worry about it.
Only worry (as you should) if you are cheating the system.
Vod, I think people are more scared of navigating a policy expectation that isn't consistent and is likely to end up being applied subjectively by whatever high-ranking member or moderator is in the position of dealing out the greatest penalty on any given day.
To the OP, the general consensus I'm seeing among the highest-ranking members is that the only thing that can get you into trouble with merit is actually trying to spend your merit. A post you find valuable, but others do not could lead you to be singled out as a "CHEATER!"
If you spend slowly you're less likely to be the target for the "merit abuse witch hunting" that is likely to grow over the coming months.
And if you see a high-ranking member say "you should be able to spend merit however you want", remember that it only applies to them.
February 08, 2018, 03:05:43 PM
Hi I am really wondering what would happen to both of our account if you would send some merit to help a friend to rank up their account.
Me and my friends are really worried to give some merits because some might say that they are abusing the merit system,
And also others might think that they are all connected or it is just a alternative accounts to boost their merit.
Whether we like it or not, we must definitely give these merits out, friends or not. But we just have to give it to deserving posts. That's all. Aren't friends posters too. What saddens me however is when I get to see 20merits and above given to a single post. And I ask myself what the heck that was for. This is just the same way people are emotionally sending merits to the several posts of an account that was last action almost 8 years ago. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/satoshi-3Me and my friends are really worried to give some merits because some might say that they are abusing the merit system,
And also others might think that they are all connected or it is just a alternative accounts to boost their merit.
Yah, I know Satoshi is an amazing personality and that he also created Bitcoin and established this forum but is that a tangible reason to flood his inactive account with merits? This is another cheat to the Merit system
February 08, 2018, 01:04:34 PM
If your friend post a high quality post then you should give merit, but if the post have a low quality then you shouldn't give the merit. Just follow the rules.
A user can give sMerit to another person "At their own will" - However mutual consensus is that merit-able content should be merited.
Also why would someone abuse their sMerits? Obviously for their own gains or if someone has paid them to do it. Get the idea? We have number of altaccount rings here spamming and getting paid - they will try to rank up by mutual sharing of merits. DT is keeping an eye on this and suspicious activity will be marked with red.
If someone is biased and giving merits to few specific people - then its obviously going to come under their watch.
@OP
I would definitely want to know who this "friend" of yours is who makes such quality posts.
I just want to keep my account and my friends account to be safe that's why I am asking this question.
February 08, 2018, 07:38:14 AM
I think about this question, but you must consider some main notification:
1-bitcointalk is a forum to help people's acknowledgment about the crypto word. so if you send smerits only to your friends this forum will not useful for all members.
2- bitcointalk is created to members send their point of views and if their points of view help other members merit for their right
3- we could not divide this forum to "friends" and "non-friends". because all of the people in here are friends. so we must divide this forum to "useful member" and "non-useful member" or "useful pos" and "non-useful post". if we think so, then the forum will has a good quality
1-bitcointalk is a forum to help people's acknowledgment about the crypto word. so if you send smerits only to your friends this forum will not useful for all members.
2- bitcointalk is created to members send their point of views and if their points of view help other members merit for their right
3- we could not divide this forum to "friends" and "non-friends". because all of the people in here are friends. so we must divide this forum to "useful member" and "non-useful member" or "useful pos" and "non-useful post". if we think so, then the forum will has a good quality
February 08, 2018, 02:55:57 AM
The merit system is a "quality assurance" regulation rule to make sure post are of value to the forum. When you "help" a friend by giving him/ her merit points, how will you uphold to the quality assurance policy? Lets suppose the post you merited is full of spelling errors.
I think it is better to teach your friend how to write quality post than thinking of how to "help" by giving merit points.
I think it is better to teach your friend how to write quality post than thinking of how to "help" by giving merit points.
February 08, 2018, 02:48:07 AM
The total merit system had been introduced to make good posts in the forum. When a new person starting to post then undoubtedly the post quality are not good. Gradually that person learns about the forum and the post quality also gradually increase. If your friend have good post quality, if the posts are helpful for all of us then you should give him merit.
February 08, 2018, 02:46:17 AM
If your friend post a high quality post then you should give merit, but if the post have a low quality then you shouldn't give the merit. Just follow the rules.
A user can give sMerit to another person "At their own will" - However mutual consensus is that merit-able content should be merited.
Also why would someone abuse their sMerits? Obviously for their own gains or if someone has paid them to do it. Get the idea? We have number of altaccount rings here spamming and getting paid - they will try to rank up by mutual sharing of merits. DT is keeping an eye on this and suspicious activity will be marked with red.
If someone is biased and giving merits to few specific people - then its obviously going to come under their watch.
@OP
I would definitely want to know who this "friend" of yours is who makes such quality posts.
February 08, 2018, 02:30:06 AM
If your friend post a high quality post then you should give merit, but if the post have a low quality then you shouldn't give the merit. Just follow the rules.
Yes correct, we can gives merit to our friends but make sure their post is constructive, but make surr it is yoyr real friend and not your alt account which is against the policy of merit system.You should need to be responsible in your smerit give that to those user who are really deserving to received merit by their post.
February 08, 2018, 01:50:12 AM
This is why we are scared in giving each other some merit ,
You are scared of getting caught giving merit to your friends....
Just hand out merit when you see a quality post, and don't worry about it.
Only worry (as you should) if you are cheating the system.
After doing some research I concluded the following:
As long as the post is a quality one you should not have any problems by giving or receiving merits.
Yes,But some of us really don't give a merit even if the post is helpful or a quality post.As long as the post is a quality one you should not have any problems by giving or receiving merits.
What if this friend of yours is your another account? Hehe, I'm just quite confuse about your post. And as far as what I understand merit is not about friendship it is about the quality of post. Therefore if the post is highly reasonable for merit, then nothing to worry about.
And also I just want to help him rank up but I guess base on the previous replies I can't give him a merit unless he post some really good quality post's.
I think so, when he talks 'scared' most likely he will cheat the system. But if he has understood how to get merit is to create a good quality post, the word 'scared' will not exist on this topic.
How could I even define our feelings if I am not going to use the word scared?
I have seen a lot of accusation because of this merit system that's why I don't give my Smerit to my friends .
But seems like my shareable merit is down to zero I didn't know that I could only send 1 merit
. February 08, 2018, 12:08:03 AM
If your friend post a high quality post then you should give merit, but if the post have a low quality then you shouldn't give the merit. Just follow the rules.
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