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This comfort is thanks to the fact that no one is controlling the prices, and if the market is controlled by an entity then it wouldn't be profitable for individual investor to invest in the market because they are at the mercy of the controllers which is going to move the market whenever it fits their interest.
Yes, if there's no control, we can also take advantage of it. But if it's controlled, there is no way that small traders or investors can take advantage of it.
We've seen that happen in the traditional markets.
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Some people think that the whales are controlling the market price and maybe they are is they can manipulate the market so easily but wondering why people are so happy when the hypes started? Yeah, the hypes made by these whales make holders and crypto investors double, triple, (or even more) their profit. And that is why we are so thankful for having them but this doesn't mean that these people are totally in control of the market, they are just also market players who keep the market becomes more volatile.
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I'm really comfortable with the market like this, uncontrollable price, market volatility which we can see that the benefits we got is huge.
This comfort is thanks to the fact that no one is controlling the prices, and if the market is controlled by an entity then it wouldn't be profitable for individual investor to invest in the market because they are at the mercy of the controllers which is going to move the market whenever it fits their interest.
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Who told you no one controls the price. Everyone together sets the price of bitcoin and other crypto currencies. This is how the decentralized market works. The supply and demand determines the price and it is us who creates both the supply and demand. But unfortunately, manipulations do take place from time to time, but those affect the price in the short run. Whales can manipulate the price by causing an artificial shortage or abundance in the market. But as more people starts to enter the market, the harder its going to get to manipulate the market. The only disadvantage is that it may cause a huge volatility (again for a short term) from time to time due to FUDs and FOMOS.
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bitcoin will not be able to do for restrictions.
Bitcoin is decentralized and censorship resistant. Its price is not controlled by a central institution but by the supply:demand ratio.

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I don't imagine if bitcoin is restricted and what about volatility?
The idea of volatility is much less in the last year. Price trends show that dropping down to zero is very less likely. Earlier when bitcoin was still in its three digit prices, the no-coiners would cite volatility as the reason why they chose not to put any money in it. It is the same no-coiners who are sulking of not having bought at that price then.

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I think Bitcoin still needs volatility to be able to set the price for traders. So I thought it would be a bad idea if there was a bitcoin restriction
Nobody can restrict bitcoin mate, as long your electricity is intact. However country governments might put restrictions on traders in future. But its price does not depend on that.

It has both its good and bad things. One thing that I would defenitely like to see is a government acceptance of use of bitcoin but not control over its supply.
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I'm really comfortable with the market like this, uncontrollable price, market volatility which we can see that the benefits we got is huge. Can we imagine a certain country that has been ruled by corrupt leaders? That we will experience if the market has that kind of control. May we ask why there is price manipulation? yes, we have but it doesn't mean that we are totally in control with these whales, no. This is just a short-term effect coz after they achieve their goal, they will leave.
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without any doubt this will be possible only when a coin has unlimited supply but if any exchange want to control any good ranked crypto coin then it is totally impossible .. You know well about shit exchange right such as yobit ? there has lot of fake coin which trading volume got increase by yobit team when ever they want but they can  not control good crypto and no exchange will be able to do so ever .
Volume of BTC can be controlled, volume of ethereum can be controlled and volume of any coin can be controlled by the exchanges and I am saying word control is manipulate because they can create fake trade orders and increase the trading volume. In the past there was an article posted about the actual trading volume on the exchanges which is a lot less compared to what is the volume mentioned by the exchange.
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I like crypto but, as a merchant and business owner, price volatility keeps me from accepting it. The price is heavily influenced by hype and FUD and I can't afford to lose half my wealth from a random crash. And what would it do to the global economy if everyone blindly jumped in without some sort of protection from a massive loss of wealth?

Solution- price limits!

If even one crypto exchange in the world adopted a policy to limit the prices of buy and sell orders to within a small percentage of the daily opening price, say +/- 1% for example, volatility would disappear. Bitcoin is currently priced around $50k, this would limit Bitcoin volatility to no more or less than $500 a day.

Here's how the market would react.
1. If the price of a coin is lower on other exchanges, traders will buy from them and sell on this, right? That will cause the price on those exchanges to rise.

2. If the price is higher on other exchanges, traders will buy from this exchange to sell on those, right? That will cause the price on those exchanges to fall.

This means the market will keep correcting itself until all prices are closely pegged to the prices on this exchange.
So it is okay to give the price control to the exchanges? Which is even again decentralization the basic thing why everyone need to move to cryptocurrencies. Exchanges don't have such limiting feature a d they should not have it too.

The market is growing every year so the volatility will reduce with the increase in adoption nit by any limiting feature.
without any doubt this will be possible only when a coin has unlimited supply but if any exchange want to control any good ranked crypto coin then it is totally impossible .. You know well about shit exchange right such as yobit ? there has lot of fake coin which trading volume got increase by yobit team when ever they want but they can  not control good crypto and no exchange will be able to do so ever .
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I can't afford to lose half my wealth from a random crash.

I think you don't understand how cryptocurrency really works. The time you're gonna lose half of your wealth is when you withdraw your funds after a random crash (which is normal) because of what we called "Volatility". Price fluctuations won't take away your profits, 1 BTC will remain 1 BTC even if the price go down from $58,000 to $50,000, all you need is patience, a lot of it to make profits to secure your wealth.

And because nobody controls Bitcoin, it's great to avoid deflation. I mean go fo fiat if you want a regulated one and have inflation, your choice.
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Bitcoin volatility would keep increasing and this is inevitable. If you are scared of loosing your fortune it's advice your HODL your coin which could be termed investing on Bitcoin. Buying Bitcoin and storing them in your wallet with the hope it would rise in the nearest future would be the best approach to curb the high volatility you are scared of. Investing has limited risk and would keep you on a reasonable profit after a long period of investing
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bitcoin will not be able to do for restrictions. I don't imagine if bitcoin is restricted and what about volatility? I think Bitcoin still needs volatility to be able to set the price for traders. So I thought it would be a bad idea if there was a bitcoin restriction
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That is beneficial from maximum sides. In cryptocurrency, there is no person to control the market it makes the system corruption-free, greed-free, emotion-free, technically strong and used a strong variation of formula which can balance the equity. This ensures to published original face or condition of the market.
legendary
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Precisely what makes many people interested in crypto is the high level of voting. there is no control and everyone is free to buy or sell. if you mean everyone has a limit in purchases, surely the increase that is happening now is not high. Elon Musk, Micosoft, Paypal one of the big companies making large purchases is a positive thing. for dump and also FUD that happens all depends on each person reacting to it. Sometimes the dump that occurs is just an issue that makes traders panic and the whales can buy cheaply
That would be idiotic for a place to do of course but we are talking about exchange and not bitcoin. You are saying bitcoin is free and that's why people like it because there is nobody controlling it, there would still be nobody controlling it.

There would be exchanges putting a new thing in there which would limit your buy and sell of bitcoin but they would not be controlling the bitcoin itself, in a matter of speaking they would be controlling you and what you do with your bitcoin, so there is a difference, if they were to control bitcoin that would mean stuff like moving bitcoins around from any wallet they want, seizing bitcoins from others wallets, printing more bitcoins, taking from you and giving to people who have more, these are all the things governments do for fiat currency, hence it's not a shock that bitcoin would be like that, but it's not. I still think that limiting the trading would be idiotic as well of course.
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Is it really a benefit that nobody controls the price?

By this, I think you are referring to decentralized markets... so let's go back to basic, the price is determined by supply and demand, depending on the market cap one whale or a group of whales can shake the supply and demand, therefore they can affect the price!

So let's focus on the whales... in fiat (traditional currencies) whales are countries and banks, wealthy individuals like Rothchild's, Gates (and many others)... they can control the market, big part of the market... and ordinary people here don't have a vote...
In crypto, the story is a bit different... here we have many individuals across the world with a small or big stash of coins, but we have a vote... we decide to sell or buy and we decide to contribute to something or not!

In the end, there are ways for controlling the price, and all sorts of manipulations are possible in all markets... but we can ask ourselves do we wish to have some vote in that or not!? I think crypto is giving us the opportunity for that!
Still even if we have a vote on the whether the price increase or decrease, these whales can affect the price too much if they decided to buy out or buy in. Fiat Millionaires/ Billionaires can affect the crypto market as well even if we have huge holders to protect the market, they can still destroy and crash the market on crypto.

Not only their money makes them powerful but also their influence which is enough to pump or dump the market just as how Elon Musk and his company made an impact on bitcoin price increase.

We must be on the watch to them as they that powerful to affect the market. Huge holders and whales can't be compared to these billionaires as their influence can be used as a FUD or to HYPE the market.
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Is it really a benefit that nobody controls the price?

By this, I think you are referring to decentralized markets... so let's go back to basic, the price is determined by supply and demand, depending on the market cap one whale or a group of whales can shake the supply and demand, therefore they can affect the price!

So let's focus on the whales... in fiat (traditional currencies) whales are countries and banks, wealthy individuals like Rothchild's, Gates (and many others)... they can control the market, big part of the market... and ordinary people here don't have a vote...
In crypto, the story is a bit different... here we have many individuals across the world with a small or big stash of coins, but we have a vote... we decide to sell or buy and we decide to contribute to something or not!

In the end, there are ways for controlling the price, and all sorts of manipulations are possible in all markets... but we can ask ourselves do we wish to have some vote in that or not!? I think crypto is giving us the opportunity for that!
legendary
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If even one crypto exchange in the world adopted a policy to limit the prices of buy and sell orders to within a small percentage of the daily opening price, say +/- 1% for example, volatility would disappear. Bitcoin is currently priced around $50k, this would limit Bitcoin volatility to no more or less than $500 a day.

Precisely what makes many people interested in crypto is the high level of voting. there is no control and everyone is free to buy or sell. if you mean everyone has a limit in purchases, surely the increase that is happening now is not high. Elon Musk, Micosoft, Paypal one of the big companies making large purchases is a positive thing. for dump and also FUD that happens all depends on each person reacting to it. Sometimes the dump that occurs is just an issue that makes traders panic and the whales can buy cheaply
Correct  Cool Decentralized voting power combined with anonymity is what makes this whole crypto market work.  This is why not one individual person can dictate the market price, unlike traditional market which are much easier to manipulate!
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Not all the coins in crypto are volatile as you think because there are lots of stable coins to be used instead such as USDT, USDC, BUSD, and more. You don't actually need to use volatility coins like Bitcoin if you can't take the risk. This volatility makes this market very attractive for investors and being decentralized so that no one can manipulate the whole market makes it challenging and interesting. Sure it was a lot riskier compared to other markets but along with it, the profit was really rewarding. Investing in Crypto is just like having a 50:50 ratio, 50 percent chance you could lose half of your wealth especially if you really have no idea what you're doing but you also have a 50 percent chance to grow it a couple more times.
To be clear, crypto is the right place to make bigger and faster profits but with a high risk. there is no market manipulation by the government, prices go up and down depending on buyers and sellers.

However, if you don't have basic trading, the possibility of losing is very big. At least you have to know the basics of trading to make profit from any price fluctuations in crypto.

I myself managed to get profit every day in crypto and only crypto can provide a bigger income for me.
I think it's best place to earn some extra money. It's all to you and your decisions. The one with emotions in control and good knowledge have a good chance to be in profits.
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Not all the coins in crypto are volatile as you think because there are lots of stable coins to be used instead such as USDT, USDC, BUSD, and more. You don't actually need to use volatility coins like Bitcoin if you can't take the risk. This volatility makes this market very attractive for investors and being decentralized so that no one can manipulate the whole market makes it challenging and interesting. Sure it was a lot riskier compared to other markets but along with it, the profit was really rewarding. Investing in Crypto is just like having a 50:50 ratio, 50 percent chance you could lose half of your wealth especially if you really have no idea what you're doing but you also have a 50 percent chance to grow it a couple more times.
To be clear, crypto is the right place to make bigger and faster profits but with a high risk. there is no market manipulation by the government, prices go up and down depending on buyers and sellers.

However, if you don't have basic trading, the possibility of losing is very big. At least you have to know the basics of trading to make profit from any price fluctuations in crypto.

I myself managed to get profit every day in crypto and only crypto can provide a bigger income for me.
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Many people don't like the feeling that they're trading in a controlled market, that's just one of the reasons why crypto is so popular.

Only those who are invested or about to invest too much money into this would like the idea of someone controlling the price so it doesn't go up or down too much, I even think crypto would be dead if there was anythig like that since one of the main features of crypto which makes it so special is the fact that it is decentralized and I'm not sure it would be a very good move to centralize a market that has decentralized coins/tokens being traded there, as a matter of fact you would only do that if you want to kill crypto market and not help it.
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Well, you can’t change that, the price of Bitcoin will continue to be volatile so it’s either that you start switching it to stable coins like PAX and USDT after making sales or you can just totally convert the coins you receive to fiat, that’s the solution for me, if you’re not going to do that the. You can continue with holding the coins like that if you can take the loss.

Though the price has been going up lately. But still make use of this method , look for a means to be converting. I know other merchants that do the same thing, they don’t hold BTC, they convert it once they get it and they make use of P2P in converting which helps them set their rate and make more profit on every dollar sold.
Yeah, even before this time Bitcoin has already reached a level where it can’t be easily manipulated by anyone, so we have already achieved that without all these rich guys that are popping out of nowhere. It’s only altcoins, especially the small market cap altcoins that can easily be manipulated by some P and D groups.

Moreover, they are not the only ones that have decided to ban cryptocurrency, the recent news that I have seen trending online is the Central Bank of Nigeria banning cryptocurrency, but all these things won’t affect the market in any way, because people living in those countries will now be switching to decentralized exchanges. So we still move.
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