Topic: Is it trust system abuse to increase Trust Score by Dabs? - page 2. (Read 448 times)

It's been a while since we've had an update to that list, but with the current monthly fluctuations of DT1, it would probably become more work than it's worth.



Last time I fell off of DT1 I used the opportunity to clean up my inclusion/exclusion list and for one reason or another I decided to remove Dabs from my exclusions.  Maybe he hadn't been included in DT1 in a while because the number of exclusions?  I don't remember, but I just excluded him again.

I did remove at least one exclusion of a member who was guilty of self-scratching in the past, but he had recently obliterated his trust list so there was no point in keeping him on the list.

Personally, I do see it as an abuse of the trust system, and when I notice a DT member who engages in self-scratching I usually exclude him.   Not because I don't want to see their reviews, but because it strikes me as a lack of critical judgement, or a lack of understanding of how the trust system works.

It’s not about feedback. You can check my thread. I have already pointed that their feedback to each other makes sense because Dabs is providing escrow service and they may have a lot of trades. Feedbacks are normal in my opinion too.

But we are talking about the trust list inclusion. You must not include a lot of people sent you positive feedback. It's kind of increasing your own trust score by including anyone who left you positive feedback. Is it abuse? Whatever it is but it's not good.

As pointed by LoyceV above, if Dabs is in no longer a DT1 member, their trust score will significantly drop because most feedbacks in his profile are from DT member who were made DT by Dabs himself.

I don't think it's trust abuse, though. If there is a basis on why they would trust each other, then it's not abuse. I'm worried about the references; upon checking, it seems like it's with these members.

• Voxterra - Upon checking it's within Discord PM.
• mavrick951 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gudmunsn-reputation-thread-208335
• guncoin_support - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498671.420
• ZypheronBits - https://64blocks.com/
• nihilnegativum - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-xaurum-xaur-1546279
• bittrojan - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/purevidznet-decentralized-streaming-webtorrents-vidz-trading-now-1696889

I'm not sure if that's okay or something. It probably depends, but some of it is old, too though.

You have the list already  I spent half an hour compiling the list. Next time, I won't forget to PM you.


That's the point. Though he has added most of them, still it doesn't make sense to list people who left them positive feedback. I wouldn't see this as a problem if all of them had actively sent feedback to others as well but look at their feedback sent. Most of them only had one feedback sent and that's to Dabs. This of course doesn't make sense. Dabs as a DT1 member, should know what he is doing.

See Trust Selfscratchers: who scratched his own back the most?
Dabs is the most notable notable user on that list, and he keeps bouncing from about 7 to 40 positive feedbacks depending on whether or not he's on DT1.
There are more users who include almost anyone who left them positive feedback. I don't think that's the best way to use the Trust system.

This is a discussion topic, not an accusation to Dabs.

I was reading the thread by nullius and checked the profile of Dabs. It shows 5 DT positive feedback according to my trust list but later on when I tried with ;dt, I found it 40 positive feedback. That's why I was checking who were they. No personal issue but I found some DT feedback which was left by people who were only trusted by Dabs.

Here is the detail of some DT members who left feedback to Dabs.

1. Voxterra- 1 feedback left
Voxterra's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Dabs (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

2. BitBot.V2- 1 feedback left
BitBot.V2's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Dabs (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

3. ma7555- 2 feedback left
ma7555's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Dabs (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

4. Frank Lefty Rosenthal- 5 feedback left
Frank Lefty Rosenthal's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Dabs (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

5. bittrojan- 2 feedback left
bittrojan's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Dabs (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

6. nihilnegativum- 5 feedback left
nihilnegativum's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Dabs (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

7. ZypheronBits- 2 feedback left
ZypheronBits's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Dabs (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

8. nagysifa- 1 feedback left
nagysifa's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Dabs (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

9. guncoin_support- 1 feedback left
guncoin_support's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Dabs (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

10. mavrick951- 4 feedback left
mavrick951's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Dabs (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

And continues.

Please keep in mind that according to the feedback sent/received, all of them have traded with Dabs as we know Dabs has/had escrow service on the forum.
Also, note that Dabs have this list from long ago. It's not something like he has recently added them. I can see most of them from 25th January 2019 from Loyce.club- https://loyce.club/trust/2019-01-25_Fri_22.33h/54791.html

Most of these people are old members of the forum. Dabs has included most of the members in their trust list who left him positive feedback.

Do you think this is an abuse to increase the trust score?