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January 21, 2017, 06:39:48 AM
#66
The negative trust clearly means a lot more than the volume of stuff posted - as evidenced by your vacuous posting here.

Anyone can sit there all day writing the first thing that pops into their head. If it's drivel you will become well-known for posting a lot of rubbish and end up earning negative trust rating (as has happened with you). If you share considered and researched opinions rather than just every random thought that jumps into your head then people will end up taking what you say more seriously.

I think you have to be either well-informed or at least technically literate to be taken seriously don't you? You can't expect anyone to care if you claim the volume of rubbish you've spoken over the years somehow makes you credible. It's quality, not quantity that matters.

If you have any specific, relevant, real issue with the maidsafe project that you want to know more about then you can find someone to discuss it with you I'm sure. You just want to FUD though, you don't care what it is or how little you know about it. You have already made up your mind, you don't have any real questions or you would have found the answers yourself. That's fine. No one here wants to change your mind. You stick with your opinions. You might as well be any tool in the polo trollbox. Having your name in pink also doesn't mean you aren't full of crap. Most people are more interested in real information than the opinion of someone who confesses that they know nothing about it. If they're more interested in opinions than facts then they deserve what they get.

I'm done bumping this thread now. What's that saying?! "There's no point arguing with idiots, they just drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

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January 21, 2017, 05:55:47 AM
#65
The fact that you ask and insinuate rather than just checking says a lot tbh. Why cast mud when it would take you 5 mins to check and read up about him and their financial situation and incentives?

David gave all of his shares away to the maidsafe foundation/charity - city kids and education is their area if I remember right. The charity has no link to the business other than controlling David's shares and some of the IP (defensive not offensive patents).

David is an engineer with a vision. He wants to provide privacy, security and freedom to everyone in the digital world. Unlike most dreamers he's been working on his big dream for 11 years (with a team of 15+ talented devs for the last few years). I doubt any of them are in a project like this for the money. They live off nothing in a little town in Scotland and they stretch every penny. Maidsafe holds well under 20M maids now anyway, they will make their money from the apps they build, not the ico coins - which are changed 1:1 for safecoins when the network launches.

If you have an actual issue, misgiving or criticism I'm sure we can play nice and discuss it. I don't know everything about the project, but I reckon I know enough to at least find reasonable responses to any issue anyone has so far mentioned in this thread.

You can clearly see from my history that I am not a shill. I've spent most of my time on here in IOTA thread and I am 'Jabba' on the maidsafe forum. I am clearly a fan of the project. Maybe I'm misguided and it will fail horribly, or maybe you've just made assumptions that you'll live to regret. I guess time will tell what the result is, but either way the upside makes it the best bet in crypto imo (whether or not it succeeds).

I don't care anyway, I have no desire to convince you to get on this train. Amazing projects don't require marketing (like btc), they sell themselves when and if they actually work. Wink It will be amazing if SAFE does work, and even the most critical will then be able to see how obvious it was with the benefit of hindsight Wink


David did give away all his shares. That is why this thread is very dishonest. How many DEVS here have done that. Satoshi did... in a way. The fact that no money has been removed from his wallet is a big reason for BTC success. It acts like a float, and gives confidence. Maybe Satoshi is a team of people who created BTC and understood that this wallet should never be used. The NSA wrote a nifty paper in 1997 about electronic cash. http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm . For you conspiracy theorist, here's a name of one of the dudes cited on the paper... Tatsuaki Okamoto/ Sattuaki Makomoto/ Satoshi Nakamoto. Ok, that's a stretch. Lol! The guy or guys who lost money because they made a bad trade... sucks, but play the next hand. The maid community could be blamed for being over enthusiastic, but not a bunch of scammers.

As far as Spoetnik? I think his credibility speaks for itself on this one. David gives away all his shares and he is a scammer. Wow! Go to the main section and watch the LEGENDS discuss segwit, Economics, Politics etc. REAL LEGENDS have the ability to educate, because they have experience, and knowledge. Spoetnik has experience, but so what! Is he educating people? No, he's miss informing them. This is fake news, and that makes him fake. Do you trust CNN? If you do, then listen to Spoetnik. They both have no respect for the truth, but demand to be taken seriously. If Spoetnik knew all the information about the big projects, and critiqued them based on a variety of factors, both pros and cons, then he would be doing his job as REAL LEGEND.

There is nothing "wrong" with my credibility.
The worst i am guilty of is posting FUD too much and maybe being a bit dramatic about it sometimes.
Such as the negative rating the little Monero assholes gave me.. which i explained a little in my SIG Rating link here.
They were in fact caught up in drama and others posted it here and i REPEATED it summarized.
I posted a topic title using keywords plucked from the Monero idiots own words.
Apparently they felt that was misleading so that meant i was "lying"
How can a quote be a lie ?

Hate to break it to ya but i am guilty of fuck all because i am not scrounging around like a scumbag hiding behind Bitcointalk puppet-accounts for profits.
Any and all activity i have ever been involved with is 100% an open book.

David gives away all his shares ?
*IF true who cares does that validate the technical way this coin was launched ?
It is still an ICO no ? Or do the ends justify the means once again ? (the biggest cliche'd ICO defense retort)
By the way..
I keep telling you all i have been simply giving away my Bitcoin to dev's for free coding they do.
Further more i can rattle of coin names i am still a bag-holder of because i never did dump them before they ended up getting delisted. (such as CryptoBits and JackpotCoin)

I also have had a perfect trade record with users in the crypto world and gotten good feedback to prove this.
Any negative feedback was because someone didn't like my so called "FUD" and figured they would be a brat and *try and punish me with a negative rating to teach me a lesson.

And i am a Legend here.. i put in the work and earned the title.
Not only that but i did not game the system like many of you did.
I have known all along that there is methods of increasing your rank here faster but NEVER made any effort at all to exploit it.
Yup.. +1 cred for Spoetnik again  Cool

Further more..

You are STILL causing a diversion.
You don't want to talk about this topic and instead are coming after ole Spoetnik personally trying to discredit me ?
Why ? Apparently you are highly threatened by my opinions here that you *claim mean nothing.
If that was the case i think you would have simply ignored me.

"he's miss informing them." ..you say ?
Uhh where is that ? Show me where i lied.
If i put a spotlight on bad things then it's you that is guilty not me.

And am i seriously still having my credibility attacked by a name changing NOOB Account here ?  Cheesy
Who has credibility here ? Sure as fucking hell not the mouthy nobody puppet-account that showed up ROFL

Simple solution.. be honest.

Man up admit your shit, fix it as best you can and then move on.. case closed.
Clawing away at people who point out IGNORED problems is not going to help.
If it's not me who points out what i did it will be someone else anyway..
After all i didn't make this topic did i ?
..yet once again i am the one who is taking the wrath over it (this happens all the time)
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January 21, 2017, 05:27:35 AM
#64
The fact that you ask and insinuate rather than just checking says a lot tbh. Why cast mud when it would take you 5 mins to check and read up about him and their financial situation and incentives?

David gave all of his shares away to the maidsafe foundation/charity - city kids and education is their area if I remember right. The charity has no link to the business other than controlling David's shares and some of the IP (defensive not offensive patents).

David is an engineer with a vision. He wants to provide privacy, security and freedom to everyone in the digital world. Unlike most dreamers he's been working on his big dream for 11 years (with a team of 15+ talented devs for the last few years). I doubt any of them are in a project like this for the money. They live off nothing in a little town in Scotland and they stretch every penny. Maidsafe holds well under 20M maids now anyway, they will make their money from the apps they build, not the ico coins - which are changed 1:1 for safecoins when the network launches.

If you have an actual issue, misgiving or criticism I'm sure we can play nice and discuss it. I don't know everything about the project, but I reckon I know enough to at least find reasonable responses to any issue anyone has so far mentioned in this thread.

You can clearly see from my history that I am not a shill. I've spent most of my time on here in IOTA thread and I am 'Jabba' on the maidsafe forum. I am clearly a fan of the project. Maybe I'm misguided and it will fail horribly, or maybe you've just made assumptions that you'll live to regret. I guess time will tell what the result is, but either way the upside makes it the best bet in crypto imo (whether or not it succeeds).

I don't care anyway, I have no desire to convince you to get on this train. Amazing projects don't require marketing (like btc), they sell themselves when and if they actually work. Wink It will be amazing if SAFE does work, and even the most critical will then be able to see how obvious it was with the benefit of hindsight Wink


David did give away all his shares. That is why this thread is very dishonest. How many DEVS here have done that. Satoshi did... in a way. The fact that no money has been removed from his wallet is a big reason for BTC success. It acts like a float, and gives confidence. Maybe Satoshi is a team of people who created BTC and understood that this wallet should never be used. The NSA wrote a nifty paper in 1997 about electronic cash. http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm . For you conspiracy theorist, here's a name of one of the dudes cited on the paper... Tatsuaki Okamoto/ Sattuaki Makomoto/ Satoshi Nakamoto. Ok, that's a stretch. Lol! The guy or guys who lost money because they made a bad trade... sucks, but play the next hand. The maid community could be blamed for being over enthusiastic, but not a bunch of scammers.

As far as Spoetnik? I think his credibility speaks for itself on this one. David gives away all his shares and he is a scammer. Wow! Go to the main section and watch the LEGENDS discuss segwit, Economics, Politics etc. REAL LEGENDS have the ability to educate, because they have experience, and knowledge. Spoetnik has experience, but so what! Is he educating people? No, he's miss informing them. This is fake news, and that makes him fake. Do you trust CNN? If you do, then listen to Spoetnik. They both have no respect for the truth, but demand to be taken seriously. If Spoetnik knew all the information about the big projects, and critiqued them based on a variety of factors, both pros and cons, then he would be doing his job as REAL LEGEND.
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January 20, 2017, 01:56:22 PM
#63
The fact that you ask and insinuate rather than just checking says a lot tbh. Why cast mud when it would take you 5 mins to check and read up about him and their financial situation and incentives?

David gave all of his shares away to the maidsafe foundation/charity - city kids and education is their area if I remember right. The charity has no link to the business other than controlling David's shares and some of the IP (defensive not offensive patents).

David is an engineer with a vision. He wants to provide privacy, security and freedom to everyone in the digital world. Unlike most dreamers he's been working on his big dream for 11 years (with a team of 15+ talented devs for the last few years). I doubt any of them are in a project like this for the money. They live off nothing in a little town in Scotland and they stretch every penny. Maidsafe holds well under 20M maids now anyway, they will make their money from the apps they build, not the ico coins - which are changed 1:1 for safecoins when the network launches.

If you have an actual issue, misgiving or criticism I'm sure we can play nice and discuss it. I don't know everything about the project, but I reckon I know enough to at least find reasonable responses to any issue anyone has so far mentioned in this thread.

You can clearly see from my history that I am not a shill. I've spent most of my time on here in IOTA thread and I am 'Jabba' on the maidsafe forum. I am clearly a fan of the project. Maybe I'm misguided and it will fail horribly, or maybe you've just made assumptions that you'll live to regret. I guess time will tell what the result is, but either way the upside makes it the best bet in crypto imo (whether or not it succeeds).

I don't care anyway, I have no desire to convince you to get on this train. Amazing projects don't require marketing (like btc), they sell themselves when and if they actually work. Wink It will be amazing if SAFE does work, and even the most critical will then be able to see how obvious it was with the benefit of hindsight Wink
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January 20, 2017, 11:50:56 AM
#62
Quote
. Where real people will actually use it to go dl the latest film, communicate securely, shop on a dark market etc.

Should i have a stab at that quote from earlier here ?  Cheesy

I have uTorrent v2.2.1 still working great.. to download the latest films.

communicate securely ? uhhhmmm LOL
https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=communicate+securely

shop on a dark market ?
Yup we are all waiting for the FIRST ICO COIN to let us do that.
Me ? I can't wait to get pedo porn crack and guns.. like all of earth.

yup.. "beautiful art" and yup.. mind blown

Maidsafe - Noob Puppet-Account Approved  Cheesy

PS:
I would bet my left nut some of these posters are Vlad and some other well known guys (hiding)

Re: Is MaidSafeCoin actually a thing?
Uhh no.
But they say it will be one day..
Well actually they said there will be some other ICO coin (see previous comments)
Convoluted ICO vaporware ? so far yeah.. sounds terribly original  Cheesy

I am curious how much has the dev etc taken in cash wise so far ?
I know right how dare i ask.. the nerve of me FUD'ing 'em like that  Cry

I CAEN HAZ ICO MONEYZ N0W ?
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January 20, 2017, 10:47:26 AM
#61

You are so beautifully written. I am just learning all this and certainly not everywhere know how to take a coin. But your words inspire confidence to mejdu. Perhaps I'll monitor it more closely


Thank you, but don't be swayed by anyone's rhetoric. I'm just as biased and limited to my own opinions as the next person. I'm glad if I inspire you to look deeper though because SAFE inspired me and I'm happy to pass that on. I recommend reading their forums and asking questions there. https://safenetforum.org/ There are a lot of smart people willing to feed your curiosity and lead you down a rather deep rabbit hole; it takes a little time and effort to see how all the different technological elements fit together. I've been reading about it every day for 18 months and still have my mind blown on a weekly basis. It's like the most amazing work of art, the most important tool and a socially empowering ideological force all rolled into one. Really it is almost a bit too good to be true! A part of me thinks it can't possibly work just because it's all way too perfect and important. I guess time will tell. I really hope it does. Enjoy having your mind blown over and again as you peel back the layers Wink
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January 20, 2017, 07:20:05 AM
#60
This thread is too funny!  Grin

Having read the criticisms I feel better than ever about the long position I took in mid 2015 Wink. It seems people have a lot of opinions that they're happy to share, but they don't care much for fact-checking or research. I guess most people are indeed lazy and stupid... shock, horror!

Just lol to people crying 'scam' or saying development has tailed off, or the community is dead. PMSL! It's one of the most active projects in this space, with more actual code under their belts than any other by far. Their product would also be a hell of a lot more useful than all the blockchain projects put together if it works (yes, I said it and I stand by it). An instant, feeless, private currency that scales positively, and is backed by its value as a commodity to access the safenetwork - a censor-resistant decentralised internet where you can store and serve your data more safely and cheaply. Where real people will actually use it to go dl the latest film, communicate securely, shop on a dark market etc.

Really people, I know it is not a small picture and it takes a bit of effort to start to see how it all fits together, but come on, how can you call an idea with this much genius in it a scam? Technical criticisms that it won't work or can't work are one thing. They must be answered by the product proving itself in the wild, but the rest of the rubbish in here is just drivel.

I guess we'll find out soon if they can deliver a robust and efficient final product, but to try to deny that it would be the biggest thing in crypto if it works is just daft. A lot of people need to look at lot more closely at what it is maidsafe are building, it's pretty clear from this thread that very few people have bothered so far.

Maidsafe has been going since long before the invention of blockchain and it promises a hell of a lot more. The clues are there folks... Secure Access For Everyone (SAFE), Privacy, Security, Freedom. Have a good long think about it and take a proper look at what they have done so far. Or don't, meh, who cares?! A project like this does not need the crypto community to get behind it. It's about building something useful, not hoodwinking and marketing to a group of speculators, unlike most of the BS in this space. If SAFE works if will change the way we interact with data for good. It's like the three-way love-child of Bittorrent, Tor and Bitcoin... on steroids and with super powers from an alien sun!!! If it works it's the most exciting thing since the moonlandings and you'll be telling your grandchildren about it.


You are so beautifully written. I am just learning all this and certainly not everywhere know how to take a coin. But your words inspire confidence to mejdu. Perhaps I'll monitor it more closely
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January 20, 2017, 04:51:59 AM
#59
I care about what is relevant bl234st (the noob)
Like the topic here..
Did you have anything to say about it ?

You seem mighty upset by my "FUD" so may i suggest you smoke the joint ?  Wink
You rail on about my relevance here while simultaneously making this topic all about me.
I find that funny.  Cheesy

You could have kept scrolling down rather than hitting reply so i have to deduce you yourself value my opinion or you know others do.

Maybe start a new topic here titled "Why Spoetnik's Altcoin opinions Suck"

And no i don't care about tech ..when the launch is crooked and rigged.

Upset? You're a barking little dog. No bite, just noise. I love playing with. Just like Benthach. I can't take you serious. If I did, people here would think I am as retarded as you.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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January 20, 2017, 03:41:03 AM
#58
I care about what is relevant bl234st (the noob)
Like the topic here..
Did you have anything to say about it ?

You seem mighty upset by my "FUD" so may i suggest you smoke the joint ?  Wink
You rail on about my relevance here while simultaneously making this topic all about me.
I find that funny.  Cheesy

You could have kept scrolling down rather than hitting reply so i have to deduce you yourself value my opinion or you know others do.

Maybe start a new topic here titled "Why Spoetnik's Altcoin opinions Suck"

And no i don't care about tech ..when the launch is crooked and rigged.
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January 20, 2017, 02:39:15 AM
#57

You couldn't care less about all the IRRELEVANT tech details?

I'm Spoetnik, I don't understand crypto tech crap, but I am a LEGEND, so listen to me!
What a load of crap.
I'm the Government, I don't understand the free market, but I am ELECTED, so listen to me!

Ask anybody here. WHAT would you rather listen to. Facts, or some loser who couldn't care less about all the IRRELEVANT tech details?
Legend? Only in your own mind you delusional moron! The fact that you have to hide behind your status, instead of answering tech questions simply exposes the fact, you are a joke. Akin to people who say... "Do you know who my dad is?"

CHECK THIS THREAD FOLKS. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15197625

Spoetnik, dude, smoke a joint. Read what you've posted for the last few years. If you survive the nervous breakdown, after realizing what an idiot you TRULY are, then that's growth dude! You need to really read what you write, and how absolutely retarded it comes across.  Shocked
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January 19, 2017, 09:18:32 PM
#56
How ironic. Github shows facts about progress, but Git is also slang for...
  
1. A completely ignorant, childish person with no manners.
2. A person who feels justified in their callow behaviour.
3. A pubescent kid who thinks it's totally cool to act like a moron on the internet, only because no one can actually reach through the screen and punch their lights out.

Jabbawa, fact checking and research? Dude this is bitcointalk, or Gitalk/Spoetalk. The old days you needed to have a presence here in order to succeed, but those days are long gone. BTC maximalists like Spoetnik, roach and others have agendas. So this place is tainted as fuck!  

I once asked this Githead a question about ETH, (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15197625) and he couldn't answer. It exposed him for what he was. A troll. Now why would I TRUST or risk my money based on information presented by a douche who doesn't even know what he's talking about? Ask Spoetnik a technical question about maid. I guarantee you, he won't will be able to answer. And this is coming from the guy who professes that he is the smartest one here. Smartest one in Gitalk is not something to brag about.  Grin

Odd how you showed up using the same made-up insulting terms and railing on about Bitcoin-Maximalists etc ya know it's almost like, you... made another new account here LOL

And uhhmmm who are you going to listen to people ? bl234st (the mouthy noob) with 75 posts here ?

Why i think it might be a guy hiding behind puppet-accounts (defending maidsafe bullshit)
WOW huh guys.. who would have thunk it ?
I know say it ain't so Spoetnik you're all thinking (here at SpoeTalk.org)
I know right.. i am shocked too  Shocked

FACT:
Legendary accounts are worthless.
The best trade advice comes from 1 post noob accounts.

So there ya go.. leet trade advice from your pal ole Spoetnik (don't say i don't do anything for ya guys)

Oh and the Maximalist crap is pure FAIL.
I am more than willing to talk shit about BTC all day long.. all coins are gonna get FUD 100% equally in my books.
I just have a habit of pointing out how YOU people here reading this MADE Bitcoin worth 1 grand each.. not me Wink

I wonder how desperate that noob puppet account guy is for BTC's ?
I get the feeling he wants them pretty bad.. while crying "Bitcoin-Maximalist" all day long.

And i couldn't care less about all the IRRELEVANT tech details of an ICO scam.
Talking about the accountability and transparency and responsibly and RISK has sweet fuck all to do with block times or max coin supply etc.

SO..
As i said many times before here, don't like my comment ?
GO CREATE ANOTHER ACCOUNT ABOUT IT  Cheesy
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January 19, 2017, 06:52:20 PM
#55

Is maidsafe a thing? Go look for yourselves.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579797.2260
https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-january-19-2017/12248/18

This is the only project I like. Read my history. I hate everything and everybody, except maid. Why? Go and research it for yourselves you lazy dicks! Reading walls of texts from Spoetnik is like eating a bag of chips. Not good for your health, or wallet.

too right! i follow a few projects and have investments all over the place, but this is the only one that really matters.

people get what they deserve I guess. if they make assumptions and don't check then they will only have themselves to blame in a few months/years when they figure out what they didn't notice before.

it's the modest, quiet, industrious, guys who're committed to working for a cause they believe in who'll disrupt it all, not the marketeers trying to sell you shit or make themselves rich.





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January 19, 2017, 06:10:58 PM
#54

Is maidsafe a thing? Go look for yourselves.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579797.2260
https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-january-19-2017/12248/18

This is the only project I like. Read my history. I hate everything and everybody, except maid. Why? Go and research it for yourselves you lazy dicks! Reading walls of texts from Spoetnik is like eating a bag of chips. Not good for your health, or wallet.
.


I love and i hold a lot of maidsafe!!!
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January 19, 2017, 06:05:18 PM
#53

Is maidsafe a thing? Go look for yourselves.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579797.2260
https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-january-19-2017/12248/18

This is the only project I like. Read my history. I hate everything and everybody, except maid. Why? Go and research it for yourselves you lazy dicks! Reading walls of texts from Spoetnik is like eating a bag of chips. Not good for your health, or wallet.
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January 19, 2017, 05:34:17 PM
#52
How ironic. Github shows facts about progress, but Git is also slang for...
 
1. A completely ignorant, childish person with no manners.
2. A person who feels justified in their callow behaviour.
3. A pubescent kid who thinks it's totally cool to act like a moron on the internet, only because no one can actually reach through the screen and punch their lights out.

Jabbawa, fact checking and research? Dude this is bitcointalk, or Gitalk/Spoetalk. The old days you needed to have a presence here in order to succeed, but those days are long gone. BTC maximalists like Spoetnik, roach and others have agendas. So this place is tainted as fuck! 

I once asked this Githead a question about ETH, (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15197625) and he couldn't answer. It exposed him for what he was. A troll. Now why would I TRUST or risk my money based on information presented by a douche who doesn't even know what he's talking about? Ask Spoetnik a technical question about maid. I guarantee you, he won't will be able to answer. And this is coming from the guy who professes that he is the smartest one here. Smartest one in Gitalk is not something to brag about.  Grin
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January 19, 2017, 05:24:01 PM
#51
Back to the OP's original question, a comprehensive background on MaidSafeCoin can be found in the following Forbes article from the middle of 2014.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/03/mastercoin-maidsafe-crowdsale/#5ccf095e6423

I don't think MaidSafe was a scam, it was simply the first ill-advised attempts to use cryptocoins as a funding opportunity in order to obtain venture capital.  MaidSafeCoin is simply a token to be exclusively used on their cloud sharing platform as a payment system amongst its users which its developers hope will instill both a increasingly larger user base and subsequently a value to the coin.  I really don't find it to be anything different than how Linden Dollars work as a currency in the virtual world Second Life.  I additionally don't think that any walled-garden strategy like this to develop value in  a coin will ever work since a similar service could simply be developed using Bitcoin or any other highly used or valued cryptocurrency.   Its the same reason I have zero confidence in Auger which is basically doing the same thing which instead of providing a cloud storage market, is providing a prediction market (aka gambling). 
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January 19, 2017, 02:03:04 PM
#50
it was definitely promising and good looking, I think it's interesting they did offer something new unlike the other crypto's that did everything like BTC and was of course not well distributed.. maybe the CLAM mechanism is good though sending the coins to active addresses in BTC/LTC.
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January 19, 2017, 01:38:10 PM
#49
This thread is too funny!  Grin

Having read the criticisms I feel better than ever about the long position I took in mid 2015 Wink. It seems people have a lot of opinions that they're happy to share, but they don't care much for fact-checking or research. I guess most people are indeed lazy and stupid... shock, horror!

Just lol to people crying 'scam' or saying development has tailed off, or the community is dead. PMSL! It's one of the most active projects in this space, with more actual code under their belts than any other by far. Their product would also be a hell of a lot more useful than all the blockchain projects put together if it works (yes, I said it and I stand by it). An instant, feeless, private currency that scales positively, and is backed by its value as a commodity to access the safenetwork - a censor-resistant decentralised internet where you can store and serve your data more safely and cheaply. Where real people will actually use it to go dl the latest film, communicate securely, shop on a dark market etc.

Really people, I know it is not a small picture and it takes a bit of effort to start to see how it all fits together, but come on, how can you call an idea with this much genius in it a scam? Technical criticisms that it won't work or can't work are one thing. They must be answered by the product proving itself in the wild, but the rest of the rubbish in here is just drivel.

I guess we'll find out soon if they can deliver a robust and efficient final product, but to try to deny that it would be the biggest thing in crypto if it works is just daft. A lot of people need to look at lot more closely at what it is maidsafe are building, it's pretty clear from this thread that very few people have bothered so far.

Maidsafe has been going since long before the invention of blockchain and it promises a hell of a lot more. The clues are there folks... Secure Access For Everyone (SAFE), Privacy, Security, Freedom. Have a good long think about it and take a proper look at what they have done so far. Or don't, meh, who cares?! A project like this does not need the crypto community to get behind it. It's about building something useful, not hoodwinking and marketing to a group of speculators, unlike most of the BS in this space. If SAFE works if will change the way we interact with data for good. It's like the three-way love-child of Bittorrent, Tor and Bitcoin... on steroids and with super powers from an alien sun!!! If it works it's the most exciting thing since the moonlandings and you'll be telling your grandchildren about it.



hero member
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January 19, 2017, 11:51:28 AM
#48
I checked both their forums and both are very inactive compared to other alternate communities.

I posted a question there earlier today and had a response within a minute and many likes on the posts, so it can't be that inactive.

It's quite active. Have a look:

https://safenetforum.org

Here's the other topic on Bitcointalk about Maidsafe (the company) and SAFE (the project they are building)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579797.2260

Maidsafe (the company) is real and working for over 10 years on this project (SAFE) now. Their software called Alpha 1 is currently running on several hundreds of nodes
in a datacentre, but we had several testnest with Vaults from home. These Vaults is where the routing takes place. It will allow people to Farm (a bit like mining) Safecoin from home
when they deliver data to the network. We are waiting for Vaults again which got updated with the new routing. They have a group of professional paid programmers working on their project.

https://github.com/orgs/maidsafe/people

Maidsafe is still looking to hire more engineers/devs. So yeah, this thing is definitely for real.

But like I said, there's already a topic about Maidsafe on BCT (see link above). And their forum is the best place to go for more info. You can try out their Alpha 1 project as well:

https://maidsafe.net/

Have fun.  
sr. member
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January 19, 2017, 10:09:13 AM
#47
This project is a scam, has been a scam, and continues to be a scam for all newbie investors. I fell into the scam at first myself and lost money, mainly due to them dumping the market to pay themselves. That alone is a huge RED FLAG to any investor. They promise the moon but deliver nothing meanwhile taking vacations and buying expensive gifts for themselves yet still NEVER EVER getting anything done. They have run out of money more than once and have stole coins that were meant to be destroyed to continue to pay themselves at the expense of investors. They have dumped the price many times and will continue to do so until they run out of funds. I think at this point in the scam all that is left is bag holders trying to prop up the market in order to unload onto the next guy who took the bait.

I heard a lot of different opinions about this project. But my friends have invested a bit of bitcoins in him and wait for the poor returns. Personally, I'm a little traded them a couple months ago. Well it happened several times to buy and sell. Apparently you're just plain out of luck at the time to come and go.
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