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Topic: Is merit abuse an issue worthy of temp banning or at least DT negative trust? - page 2. (Read 545 times)

legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
This legend gave 50 merits out twice to more or less the same post and those accounts were analysed and look highly probable to be his own
I guess most things can be gamed.
Mere speculations,the more reason why there's no enforceable rule regarding such cases...
Take a plagiarism case,we the community can simply run a quick plagiarism test on such users posts,and if he/she is found guilty,the penalty(permaban)will be handed out..

But with the merit abuse cases,its always difficult to call,and we could be making a mistake tagging a user at least 5/10 times for various reasons such as.
Every user is entitled to do whatsoever he/she wishes with his/her Smerits really(so there is no proof to show a user is meriting his/her alt)
And users on the forum merit posts they agree with,which according to theymos shouldn't be so.."merit quality/good post"
So such user probably agreed with the recipient of the merit,and decided to hand out quite a chunk of it to them..



Not sure what your post means. Like most noob accounts spouting nonsense in meta looking for some merit crumbs.
 

 I am talking about 50 merits for very similar post 2 x to 2 accounts linked to his same holding addresses.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-completely-abuse-of-merits-legendary-member-waiting-for-dt-5072316

Just this one instance makes a mockery of merit, and brings into question any use of it except as weapon to stop noobs filling the board with junk. Sadly even some slip through the net like for instance you.

I am talking blatant abuse not a difference of opinion on what makes a good post.

Plagiarism is not as simple as running some script for hits and job done. Of course it may seem like that if you are some bot deployed to KA for merit.

member
Activity: 154
Merit: 24
The future of security tokens
This legend gave 50 merits out twice to more or less the same post and those accounts were analysed and look highly probable to be his own
I guess most things can be gamed.
Mere speculations,the more reason why there's no enforceable rule regarding such cases...
Take a plagiarism case,we the community can simply run a quick plagiarism test on such users posts,and if he/she is found guilty,the penalty(permaban)will be handed out..

But with the merit abuse cases,its always difficult to call,and we could be making a mistake tagging a user at least 5/10 times for various reasons such as.
Every user is entitled to do whatsoever he/she wishes with his/her Smerits really(so there is no proof to show a user is meriting his/her alt)
And users on the forum merit posts they agree with,which according to theymos shouldn't be so.."merit quality/good post"
So such user probably agreed with the recipient of the merit,and decided to hand out quite a chunk of it to them..
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47119519

Read the whole thread too. It will give you an idea as to where the community stands on merit abuse.

Thanks, yes that certainly explained why there are no DT trust of some of these obvious merit abusers. This legend gave 50 merits out twice to more or less the same post and those accounts were analysed and look highly probable to be his own.

I guess most things can be gamed.
qwk
donator
Activity: 3542
Merit: 3413
Shitcoin Minimalist
Are there no enforceable rules regarding merit abuse?? No neg trust even in serious cases??
No.
There are no enforceable rules regarding either the merit system or the trust system.
It seems to be common practice to give negative trust to blatant merit abusers, but I recall theymos frowning upon it.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47119519

Read the whole thread too. It will give you an idea as to where the community stands on merit abuse.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
Are there no enforceable rules regarding merit abuse?? No neg trust even in serious cases??

I would suggest powering up each others merit or even your own alts merit is quite a dangerous practice.

It is actually like cheating really because you are allowing accounts to rank up and gain trust in an unfair way.  These are obviously less deserving in trust than those that do not do this.

 Trust score you say is for trust but for me a lot of faith is put in rank too perhaps just as much. I mean would you trust a legend with 0 trust or a jnr with 20 trust.

You can see that a person doing this kind of thing should demonstrate their entire account has far less real merit than those that gain their merits in a fair way and far less merit even than person that have zero or less merit.

I think Negative DT is a minimum needed to alert person of blatant trust abuse.

I have seem some account just give 50 x merit 2x  to highly probable alts and that legend has seemingly no consequences at all? the posts were laughable and to get 50 merits for almost the same exact 2 posts??

Merit is always going to be gamed a bit but to see it go down like that and no DT is commenting then I am sure there must be a good reason that I am not seeing?

Can anyone shed some light.

This is a serious question. Since I see we are now tightening up ship here to expel scammers and scam enablers and rightly so... what am I missing with these types of cases?

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