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legendary
Activity: 1498
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February 06, 2018, 05:06:14 PM
#71
9 Vega 64 now struggle to make $9 a day

Think about that...

4 1080tis struggle to make $10 a day


Think about that....

Now ask your self will a Vega 64 ever go back to $499 in price?

Your problem is you that you think too much about it in fiat.  Who gives a fuck about fiat?

 The large number of us that have BILLS to pay.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
February 06, 2018, 05:04:44 PM
#70
POS doesn't work without good distribution of tokens/coins, so no mining will not die soon, there are many pros and cons to both POW and POS (as well as dPOS)

who was the first one to create a master node? I keep seeing these nodes and how now the nodes are getting more and more of the miners block rewards. its like getting taxed for your hard work

isnt it like capitalism where one person with alot of money can now control most of the wealth and tax the hard working miner?

DASH/DarkCoin I think, but I'm not 100% sure.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
February 06, 2018, 05:04:06 PM
#69
With this current price, mining still not profitable if you pay electricity at @$0.1/kWh
so, i have a plan to hold coin until market recovery.
If not, maybe i decide to surrender Smiley

where are you getting that rate? what country? state? city?
is that residential rate?

 10 cents per KWH?

 Lots of places offer that rate or lower for at least part of the year on residential service, and MORE on small business or "higher consumption" service types.

 Mining is VERY profitable at that rate if you run efficient or even semi-efficient rigs - for now.
It's just not AS profitable as a month ago, which might drive a few of the "get rich quick" types away.

member
Activity: 82
Merit: 13
Nothing in the cry of cicadas suggests ...
February 06, 2018, 04:48:05 PM
#68
POS doesn't work without good distribution of tokens/coins, so no mining will not die soon, there are many pros and cons to both POW and POS (as well as dPOS)

who was the first one to create a master node? I keep seeing these nodes and how now the nodes are getting more and more of the miners block rewards. its like getting taxed for your hard work

isnt it like capitalism where one person with alot of money can now control most of the wealth and tax the hard working miner?

Dash was the first coin with a Masternode.  At its core, masternodes provide important functions that allow the instant and private sending of coins.  People who run masternodes are compensated because it requires a server to be online for 24 hours a day.  It also requires you to put up a certain amount of coins for collateral.  The payout on running a Dash masternode is about 8%.  Masternodes are required to put up a certain amount of coins to prevent bad actors from easily creating numerous masternodes.  The problem today is there are now a million shitcoins out there that no one will ever need to send instantly or privately, with ridiculous ROIs in the hundreds.  These drive up the value as people will be buying these coins to have enough for a masternode.  Devs also have found that creating a masternode coin is a quick way to get rich quick.  You often now see these premined coins where the dev will auction off 5 or 6 masternodes on Discord for 2-3 bitcoin each!

I wouldn't say Masternodes are like capitalism exactly.  Its really no different than a miner competing against someone who has a 100 GPU rig.  Like anything in life, the people with the most resources will gain the most when investing those resources.

I agree - I think the fundamental concept of the Masternode as a way to provide incentive to hold coins, and to help stabilize the currency in exchange for a return is fundamentally brilliant and innovated.  But it's become perverse where the DEV's pre-mine and then auction off the MN's on Discord, as I saw with Lizus and a few others.  I think this is somewhat of a recent trend, and I hope it doesn't continue. I actually don't think it will when these people who have paid several or even a large fraction of a bitcoin watch their MN investment evaporate in some months as the dev's and other dump their coins and disappear.  I'm not saying they all will - but I think there have already been cases of it happening fairly recently.

I completely get the fact that exchanges are now asking for hefty fees to get listed (which is why they claim they need to auction of the nodes), but why it is SO IMPORTANT to get on exchanges unless you plan to immediately speculate, drive the price up, and then cash out.  My question to the dev's would be - what about the actual use of the coin you are developing?  What has that to do with the exchange? 

I like coins that are back-to-basics types of released, like ROI and Raven.  Anyway ... even though I'm intrigued by the MN concept, I'm afraid it's getting somewhat ruined by these new trends.

newbie
Activity: 84
Merit: 0
February 06, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
#67
I wouldn't say Masternodes are like capitalism exactly.  Its really no different than a miner competing against someone who has a 100 GPU rig.  Like anything in life, the people with the most resources will gain the most when investing those resources.

Well you cant hate on the people with most at the beginning
what you need to do is try to get in at the beginning as well

i mean i know it sucks but life is competitive man, and thank goodness we have charity and foundations to help other out but thats life man
for me i have accepted to find a way to get ahead rather than complain about others fortune
newbie
Activity: 84
Merit: 0
February 06, 2018, 03:44:07 PM
#66
There will always be new coins to mine so I don't think gpu will ever die. Asic's are so specialized, they seem to go obsolete pretty quickly.

New coins may start to move away from POW as well is the point here
One thing starts and everyone follows
sometimes you never know how much effect or influence something can have
and sometimes things go so fast because you have to react

which is point for this conversation
so we can think about it
yes it wont die, at least not right now
BUT if may slow down a lot in the coming 1 or 2 years if everyone starts to ditch POW
member
Activity: 155
Merit: 11
February 06, 2018, 01:54:28 PM
#65
POS doesn't work without good distribution of tokens/coins, so no mining will not die soon, there are many pros and cons to both POW and POS (as well as dPOS)

who was the first one to create a master node? I keep seeing these nodes and how now the nodes are getting more and more of the miners block rewards. its like getting taxed for your hard work

isnt it like capitalism where one person with alot of money can now control most of the wealth and tax the hard working miner?

Capitalism and tax are on two separate ends of the economic spectrum. You should not associate one with the other. Socialism and communism are more aligned with taxation.
full member
Activity: 1179
Merit: 131
February 06, 2018, 01:52:59 PM
#64
With this current price, mining still not profitable if you pay electricity at @$0.1/kWh
so, i have a plan to hold coin until market recovery.
If not, maybe i decide to surrender Smiley

where are you getting that rate? what country? state? city?
is that residential rate?

Why does it matter what city, state, country he is getting that rate?  Completely irrelevant.  Mining is still profitable at 10 cents a kWh
full member
Activity: 1179
Merit: 131
February 06, 2018, 01:51:58 PM
#63
POS doesn't work without good distribution of tokens/coins, so no mining will not die soon, there are many pros and cons to both POW and POS (as well as dPOS)

who was the first one to create a master node? I keep seeing these nodes and how now the nodes are getting more and more of the miners block rewards. its like getting taxed for your hard work

isnt it like capitalism where one person with alot of money can now control most of the wealth and tax the hard working miner?

Dash was the first coin with a Masternode.  At its core, masternodes provide important functions that allow the instant and private sending of coins.  People who run masternodes are compensated because it requires a server to be online for 24 hours a day.  It also requires you to put up a certain amount of coins for collateral.  The payout on running a Dash masternode is about 8%.  Masternodes are required to put up a certain amount of coins to prevent bad actors from easily creating numerous masternodes.  The problem today is there are now a million shitcoins out there that no one will ever need to send instantly or privately, with ridiculous ROIs in the hundreds.  These drive up the value as people will be buying these coins to have enough for a masternode.  Devs also have found that creating a masternode coin is a quick way to get rich quick.  You often now see these premined coins where the dev will auction off 5 or 6 masternodes on Discord for 2-3 bitcoin each!

I wouldn't say Masternodes are like capitalism exactly.  Its really no different than a miner competing against someone who has a 100 GPU rig.  Like anything in life, the people with the most resources will gain the most when investing those resources.
newbie
Activity: 84
Merit: 0
February 06, 2018, 12:48:51 PM
#62
With this current price, mining still not profitable if you pay electricity at @$0.1/kWh
so, i have a plan to hold coin until market recovery.
If not, maybe i decide to surrender Smiley

where are you getting that rate? what country? state? city?
is that residential rate?
member
Activity: 294
Merit: 12
February 06, 2018, 12:21:11 PM
#61
POS doesn't work without good distribution of tokens/coins, so no mining will not die soon, there are many pros and cons to both POW and POS (as well as dPOS)

who was the first one to create a master node? I keep seeing these nodes and how now the nodes are getting more and more of the miners block rewards. its like getting taxed for your hard work

isnt it like capitalism where one person with alot of money can now control most of the wealth and tax the hard working miner?
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
February 06, 2018, 12:08:11 PM
#60
POS doesn't work without good distribution of tokens/coins, so no mining will not die soon, there are many pros and cons to both POW and POS (as well as dPOS)
jr. member
Activity: 141
Merit: 4
ethereum is a fork of ethereum classic.
February 06, 2018, 11:55:50 AM
#59
9 Vega 64 now struggle to make $9 a day

Think about that...

4 1080tis struggle to make $10 a day


Think about that....

Now ask your self will a Vega 64 ever go back to $499 in price?

Your problem is you that you think too much about it in fiat.  Who gives a fuck about fiat?

because $4000 worth of video cards struggles to make $9 a day. thats why

$4000 worth  of mining equipment  plus electricity cost for barley $9 a day? explain to me how the fuck anyone can decided to start mining or get into any investment without seeing how much you can make a day




noob. you mad bro?

https://www.nicehash.com/miner/34RV1eTFYKFcx5AqF5rJTPB7KCbv4hdYk7
member
Activity: 294
Merit: 12
February 06, 2018, 11:55:26 AM
#58
9 Vega 64 now struggle to make $9 a day

Think about that...

4 1080tis struggle to make $10 a day


Think about that....

Now ask your self will a Vega 64 ever go back to $499 in price?

Your problem is you that you think too much about it in fiat.  Who gives a fuck about fiat?

because $4000 worth of video cards struggles to make $9 a day. thats why

$4000 worth  of mining equipment  plus electricity cost for barley $9 a day? explain to me how the fuck anyone can decided to start mining or get into any investment without seeing how much you can make a day




I don't give a rats fuck about fiat.  I care about how much crypto I can earn in a day from my mining rigs.  The trade value to fiat is extremely volatile and will probably continue to be that way for quite some time.  You can't love it when it's high and hate it when it's low.  If you don't love it just as much when it's low, you're not in it for the right reasons and you're going to burn yourself badly.  So if I don't like the price today, I check it in a couple of weeks and see if I like it better.  No reason to obsess over it by checking it 20 times a day.

Let go of that emotional attachment to money that you have and you'll be way better off in the long run.

well you can mine for the future or mine for profits.

these cards might mine you alot of shit coins but wont make you daily money
member
Activity: 644
Merit: 24
February 06, 2018, 11:35:39 AM
#57
9 Vega 64 now struggle to make $9 a day

Think about that...

4 1080tis struggle to make $10 a day


Think about that....

Now ask your self will a Vega 64 ever go back to $499 in price?

Your problem is you that you think too much about it in fiat.  Who gives a fuck about fiat?

because $4000 worth of video cards struggles to make $9 a day. thats why

$4000 worth  of mining equipment  plus electricity cost for barley $9 a day? explain to me how the fuck anyone can decided to start mining or get into any investment without seeing how much you can make a day




I don't give a rats fuck about fiat.  I care about how much crypto I can earn in a day from my mining rigs.  The trade value to fiat is extremely volatile and will probably continue to be that way for quite some time.  You can't love it when it's high and hate it when it's low.  If you don't love it just as much when it's low, you're not in it for the right reasons and you're going to burn yourself badly.  So if I don't like the price today, I check it in a couple of weeks and see if I like it better.  No reason to obsess over it by checking it 20 times a day.

Let go of that emotional attachment to money that you have and you'll be way better off in the long run.
member
Activity: 294
Merit: 12
February 06, 2018, 11:29:56 AM
#56
9 Vega 64 now struggle to make $9 a day

Think about that...

4 1080tis struggle to make $10 a day


Think about that....

Now ask your self will a Vega 64 ever go back to $499 in price?

Your problem is you that you think too much about it in fiat.  Who gives a fuck about fiat?

because $4000 worth of video cards struggles to make $9 a day. thats why

$4000 worth  of mining equipment  plus electricity cost for barley $9 a day? explain to me how the fuck anyone can decided to start mining or get into any investment without seeing how much you can make a day


member
Activity: 644
Merit: 24
February 06, 2018, 10:38:34 AM
#55
9 Vega 64 now struggle to make $9 a day

Think about that...

4 1080tis struggle to make $10 a day


Think about that....

Now ask your self will a Vega 64 ever go back to $499 in price?

Your problem is you that you think too much about it in fiat.  Who gives a fuck about fiat?
member
Activity: 294
Merit: 12
February 06, 2018, 09:35:55 AM
#54
9 Vega 64 now struggle to make $9 a day

Think about that...

4 1080tis struggle to make $10 a day


Think about that....

Now ask your self will a Vega 64 ever go back to $499 in price?
member
Activity: 294
Merit: 16
February 06, 2018, 09:29:39 AM
#53
With prices in the toilet at least I won't owe the IRS a lot of income tax on this.  So I got that going for me.   Grin
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
February 06, 2018, 07:35:53 AM
#52
Mining with gpu wont die the coming years. This year en coming year it will reacht its top. Sure it is not profitable with coins like ETH or Bitcoin. But using your rig to mine a coin that is still in it young days can be very profitable in the future.
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