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Big casinos can be worth a hundred million dollars for companies up to a billion dollars. If there are new casinos, you can't be sure how much capital they've got and how worth they are. That's why if you just want to know how much they're worth and how they're able to pay for influencers, you can search for them and do some research because it's easy to know how they can afford to pay these people to advertise them. If they can't do it, they won't have the guts to hire some prominent people not just from the gambling industry to advertise them.

usually only big casinos dare to spend big on promotions and campaigns let alone hiring influencers of course they also have a very large initial capital to attract many people to gamble at the casino, the net profit from the casino is usually from the gambler's defeat so not only the capital returns but also This casino gets a big advantage if it dares to spend big money at the beginning of introducing the casino. actually to find out more deeply the OP needs to do a thorough research.

It's part of their spending budget for marketing. See how these big casinos have a big budget for marketing and hiring those influencers and celebrities with a huge following. They know how impactful marketing and viewership are and that's why they'll have no inch of thought to spend and pay their talent fee. There's no other source of income if we will look at the casino's perspective, there's only one way that they could earn money and that's from the customers that will be taken through the sponsorship and influencers' encouragement to them when they're being viewed. That's why they're called as influencers because they can easily influence the decision making of their subscribers and fans.

A casino always looks for the best in marketing because it knows that it is a safe investment, as I have said in previous threads, there comes a time when marketing pays for itself, in the case of casinos that decide to hire an influencer it is because they want to bring in mass players to your casino, it is normal, the more players enter the more money enters the casino and the more winners too, this is something that I see as growth, which has a high cost, well yes, but it is worth it, because an influencer will always bring many people with him to follow him wherever he goes.

Its not always worth it because results couldnt really be possibly assure that it would sustain but if ever the expenses had been break even or something that they do profit about on the result of that marketing or

ads then we could really say that its worth but if didnt really give out any positive results then it would be an another story.In any business then exposure and marketing is really a default thing to be considered.

You cant just built up and make some business and doesnt have any allocation or funds for the sake of marketing then having no exposure would lead your business into failure or complete disaster.
If people wont be finding out its existence and even on seeing it but not really something interesting it would be still ending up on the same outcome.

Yes, of course, not all the time the same Strategies apply to everyone, in this case I say marketing in a general way because it is what attracts people the most, however this can bring good results or not, as long as you have a sufficient budget so as not to neglect other things as Important as covering possible vulnerabilities and having good control over the security of the casino, it is not going to be that by being more aware of Looking for clients the most important thing is neglected, which is Security, if they steal a casino and all or most of the Funds are there would not be the right thing to do.

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Quote from: Silberman on April 29, 2023, 04:56:11 PM

A scam casino is not going to use only one tactic in order to scam their customers, once they have decided to go that route then they will use every single trick available to them to scam their customers, so if for example a gambler makes a bet higher than their average bet then they can manipulate the results so the gambler always losses that bet, they can use their TOS and interpret it freely to accuse their customers of cheating even if this never occurred, they can claim the user was hacked and that is why there are no funds on their account anymore, once you begin to think about you will realize there is no end to the number of excuses those casinos can use to steal our money.

Well, you are probably right that they can go to any extent if their basic motive of creating the casino is to scam people and steal their money, and the opportunities for them to successfully scam their customers without them knowing are thousands, and even if there are none, they can easily create one from their side.

Modification of Terms of Services is a very subtle yet effective way for gambling platforms to lie and scam their customers. If they publicly announce a change, that is okay, but if they hide it from even their customers, that gives it up that the casino has never been legit.

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Quote from: len01 on April 27, 2023, 06:59:35 AM

there are many ways to find out if the casino is a scam or not and it is more effective if you use a small deposit method and try several bets and try to withdraw funds and do it several times. because usually the first withdrawal is successful it can be just bait to deposit even more funds.
only it's a more effective way than reading reviews alone, because many fake positive reviews are published on several sites and pay for each positive review.
doing your own research is much better.

A scam casino doesn't necessarily need to delay your withdrawal but they can use different ways to do that which you might not notice initially, for example, a casino that plans to scam their customers will simply not let them reach a point where they can request a withdrawal since they will have their games rigged and you will eventually lose everything whenever you are about to reach the point where you could withdraw the winnings.

Such casinos are caught but not initially, after some time and only by a few players who are good at observing things around, otherwise, a normal player would never even have a doubt, all they will think is that they are unlucky and not winning at all.

A scam casino is not going to use only one tactic in order to scam their customers, once they have decided to go that route then they will use every single trick available to them to scam their customers, so if for example a gambler makes a bet higher than their average bet then they can manipulate the results so the gambler always losses that bet, they can use their TOS and interpret it freely to accuse their customers of cheating even if this never occurred, they can claim the user was hacked and that is why there are no funds on their account anymore, once you begin to think about you will realize there is no end to the number of excuses those casinos can use to steal our money.

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Distance immediately? I think that was quick. It's wrong to judge them without proving that they are truly shady. There are lots of ways to know if a casino is a scam. You can do it by yourself by trying their free offers. If you can withdraw the money then maybe they are legit but you must be careful and play small amount first because the early wins can only be their lure or bait in order to make the player confident.

If we are too scared to test the gambling site on our own then we can read the feedback of those who tried it. Legit casinos are the ones that can usually grow big but there are also big casinos who are still a scam. They might have lots of connections and they bribe them money to continue their operations.

there are many ways to find out if the casino is a scam or not and it is more effective if you use a small deposit method and try several bets and try to withdraw funds and do it several times. because usually the first withdrawal is successful it can be just bait to deposit even more funds.
only it's a more effective way than reading reviews alone, because many fake positive reviews are published on several sites and pay for each positive review.
doing your own research is much better.

A scam casino doesn't necessarily need to delay your withdrawal but they can use different ways to do that which you might not notice initially, for example, a casino that plans to scam their customers will simply not let them reach a point where they can request a withdrawal since they will have their games rigged and you will eventually lose everything whenever you are about to reach the point where you could withdraw the winnings.

Such casinos are caught but not initially, after some time and only by a few players who are good at observing things around, otherwise, a normal player would never even have a doubt, all they will think is that they are unlucky and not winning at all.

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Quote from: len01 on April 27, 2023, 06:59:35 AM

there are many ways to find out if the casino is a scam or not and it is more effective if you use a small deposit method and try several bets and try to withdraw funds and do it several times. because usually the first withdrawal is successful it can be just bait to deposit even more funds.
only it's a more effective way than reading reviews alone, because many fake positive reviews are published on several sites and pay for each positive review.
doing your own research is much better.

Why should we go too far? We already have our beloved forum which is composed of real people who are honest at giving their opinions and reviews about the gambling sites that they tested.
As gamblers, we try to avoid adding more risks because out money is already in jeopardy by betting at a game where "the house always wins" and if it's a scam, it's double the risk. I think we should just stick with the reputable ones, let's forget about looking for something new and just used those who are competing at a high level like Stake.com and Sportsbet.io. That's already two options for me and there are more in this forum. I don't even need Google anymore to find another trusted gambling site.

Practically speaking if you don't want to add more risk with your bankroll taking those reputable site to play is the best thing to do, but if you are a fan of exploring around and you wanted to test other alternative options by using a small amount of funds, you'll be able to test those services and your personal experienced can guide you if the option to use new or not so known casino are okay or you'll stay with the site that you already play comfortably and the experienced is just nothing to change your site where you are already comfortable to play in.

Keep in mind that is money matters so better to make sure that you are using good platform to entrust your money.

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With numerous legit online casinos these days, you will never be prone to scams as long as you also gamble responsibly. And never worry if you made a huge win, with all the profits that they made out from those players losses, they will always have sufficient amount to pay for us, except for casinos that have not build its name and reputation in the gambling industry, they might struggle at first especially for jackpot wins. But rest assured, before they start their business, they have anticipated it already on paying their lucky players without payout delays.

But we still have to be careful, especially if we want to play at a new casino that we don't know because fraud can still happen at any time. By being careful, we can distance ourselves from this fraud and play gambling safely and comfortably.

Casinos wanting to grow their business to be bigger will always pay attention to their users and provide the best service to find a comfortable place to play. And casinos like that can grow bigger and will pay out the winnings to their users who win.

Distance immediately? I think that was quick. It's wrong to judge them without proving that they are truly shady. There are lots of ways to know if a casino is a scam. You can do it by yourself by trying their free offers. If you can withdraw the money then maybe they are legit but you must be careful and play small amount first because the early wins can only be their lure or bait in order to make the player confident.

If we are too scared to test the gambling site on our own then we can read the feedback of those who tried it. Legit casinos are the ones that can usually grow big but there are also big casinos who are still a scam. They might have lots of connections and they bribe them money to continue their operations.

Being able to withdraw money does not guarantee that a new casino will not be a scam. But I agree to try playing at the new casino with small money so that if something bad happens, it doesn't really impact us and instead, we get to know better how the service from the new casino is. And people who have experience trying many new casinos will be able to feel if a casino is legit or fake. They can be even more careful than us and will provide us with additional information.

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Quote from: KaizenJujustsu on March 31, 2023, 10:12:32 AM

I am just curious about how does online casino pay for their promotion on their influencers? Where does their earning comes from?

They come from:
- Earnings made from players losing to the house
- Fees in excess of actual fees required to process payments
- Locking/suspending player account permanently when they can't meet demands to unlock their account (true story for most casinos)

Quote from: KaizenJujustsu on March 31, 2023, 10:12:32 AM

How will you get scammed when you try online casino?

If you are prepared to provide very extensive information about yourself, you might be able to get your account unlocked if a casino does lock your account. If you aren't, that's one way you can be scammed. This usually happens the more you deposit/win. Some casinos can just stop processing payments as well, at any time.

Quote from: KaizenJujustsu on March 31, 2023, 10:12:32 AM

How can you tell that online casino is safe?

For the most part, you can't. Some have passed the time test yet still have issues for individual players. The more you deposit and win, the higher your risk that you will face issues. This applies to all casinos.

If you want to gamble, use a tried and true casino. Additionally, use insignificant amounts (never hold more than $500 in a casino).
If you want to gamble more, your risk of unexpected problems that may cause you to lose your entire balance increases.

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Quote from: KaizenJujustsu on March 31, 2023, 10:12:32 AM

I am just curious about how does online casino pay for their promotion on their influencers? Where does their earning comes from? How will you get scammed when you try online casino? How can you tell that online casino is safe?

Thats a lot of question to answer but again the all of the answers are here in the forum, you can find reliable source of information here and you can see a lot of members mostly those high ranks will say their unbiased reviews here because when yo search in goog for sure you'll see a lot of fake reviews and you'll end up getting scammed. You can ask search for a specific casino here for sure you'll find it and see the reviews , mostly they have ANN thread here.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 27, 2023, 07:55:01 AM

Why should we go too far? We already have our beloved forum which is composed of real people who are honest at giving their opinions and reviews about the gambling sites that they tested.
As gamblers, we try to avoid adding more risks because out money is already in jeopardy by betting at a game where "the house always wins" and if it's a scam, it's double the risk. I think we should just stick with the reputable ones, let's forget about looking for something new and just used those who are competing at a high level like Stake.com and Sportsbet.io. That's already two options for me and there are more in this forum. I don't even need Google anymore to find another trusted gambling site.

I agree, I have never gambled anywhere that I didn't see on this forum, all the casinos I tested or still gambling were from here. Most of them I was here even on the first day, and I was the "beta" tester basically that tried it, and if I didn't, then I read pages and pages of what people wrote about it and that is how I pick the casino I gamble.

It's really an easy solution to our problems because most casinos could turn out to be a scam, and maybe you wouldn't know beforehand and maybe that would become a problem but in the end if it is one, then people will let you know. There are also a lot of places that people go to complain, but here the casinos could give you a reason why that happened and convince you as well, so that is a better deal.

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Quote from: len01 on April 27, 2023, 06:59:35 AM

there are many ways to find out if the casino is a scam or not and it is more effective if you use a small deposit method and try several bets and try to withdraw funds and do it several times. because usually the first withdrawal is successful it can be just bait to deposit even more funds.
only it's a more effective way than reading reviews alone, because many fake positive reviews are published on several sites and pay for each positive review.
doing your own research is much better.

Why should we go too far? We already have our beloved forum which is composed of real people who are honest at giving their opinions and reviews about the gambling sites that they tested.
As gamblers, we try to avoid adding more risks because out money is already in jeopardy by betting at a game where "the house always wins" and if it's a scam, it's double the risk. I think we should just stick with the reputable ones, let's forget about looking for something new and just used those who are competing at a high level like Stake.com and Sportsbet.io. That's already two options for me and there are more in this forum. I don't even need Google anymore to find another trusted gambling site.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on April 25, 2023, 02:28:03 PM

Distance immediately? I think that was quick. It's wrong to judge them without proving that they are truly shady. There are lots of ways to know if a casino is a scam. You can do it by yourself by trying their free offers. If you can withdraw the money then maybe they are legit but you must be careful and play small amount first because the early wins can only be their lure or bait in order to make the player confident.

If we are too scared to test the gambling site on our own then we can read the feedback of those who tried it. Legit casinos are the ones that can usually grow big but there are also big casinos who are still a scam. They might have lots of connections and they bribe them money to continue their operations.

there are many ways to find out if the casino is a scam or not and it is more effective if you use a small deposit method and try several bets and try to withdraw funds and do it several times. because usually the first withdrawal is successful it can be just bait to deposit even more funds.
only it's a more effective way than reading reviews alone, because many fake positive reviews are published on several sites and pay for each positive review.
doing your own research is much better.

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Quote from: Silberman on April 26, 2023, 04:32:18 PM

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Quote from: Accardo on April 19, 2023, 05:29:18 AM

Going through the thread, I found that alot of contributions has been made to remove Op's doubt. Still, they're multiple means to determine the legitimacy of an online casino, which this forum is also a better place to discover genuine online casinos. However, most of the members may not have been used by the entire forum users that's where casino review sites helps newbies or new users of a specific casino to know what actually happens in the casino before playing on the casino. You can check for user complaints too, anywhere even on the site or off the site. Casinomeister is also a better place to research for any online casino that you don't feel comfortable with the reviews you got from this forum.

A review website for casinos or any service can be helpful but only if the person who is posting the reviews is honest with them. I say that because most of the reviews that we see these days are basically not honest about the service or the platform and are simply paid reviews that are represented as honest reviews to the general public.

Most influencers do that too, they take money for doing a review since it's a kind of business and a way for them to make money, they just make a positive review about a platform without even knowing anything about it even if it's a scam or untrusted one in the back end.

And even if the review was honest, it does not really tell us anything about the casino, as the casino will treat the influencer with great care and attention and the influencer may think this is the actual treatment everyone receives at that casino, and when someone that watched their videos tries that casino by themselves they realize their experience is completely different, as unlike the influencer they are not important on the eyes of the casino and then they get scammed.

When it comes to marketing then it would really be that understandable that they would be treating these influencers like babies because they do know that if these marketers would be able to show off some good impression towards the site then they do know that the money that they had paid up would really be worth it since they would really be able to get sufficient users to play and make registration on the site.
Also its really that true that experience might really be actually the same on what the influencer had noted out compared into those actual users who do make out deposits which it is really that sad to think off.

This is why it would be always that suggestible for you to make some in depth research and make out some checking about user base and overall reputation and popularity if you do see a new certain site
had been introduced or been showcased because not all the time these sites would really be that automatically be considered to be legit because we know that there are influencers who do really
care on what company they are really that promoting as long they do get paid then that what matter the most.

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Quote from: KaizenJujustsu on March 31, 2023, 10:12:32 AM

I am just curious about how does online casino pay for their promotion on their influencers?

Online casinos pay for influencer promotions from the revenue generated from gambling activities, for the purpose of creating awareness to more users, gain more gamblers and generate more profits.

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Where does their earning comes from?

The earning on online casinos always come from the revenue generated from the lost funds of people who gamblered.

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How will you get scammed when you try online casino?

You can get scammed when you fail to use a reputable online casino (i.e Stake) for gambling and went ahead falling victim of a scam casino (i.e 1xbit).

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How can you tell that online casino is safe?

The simple way to tell if an online casino is safe is simply by doing your own research "DYOR".

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Quote from: dezoel on April 23, 2023, 11:30:50 AM

Quote from: Accardo on April 19, 2023, 05:29:18 AM

Going through the thread, I found that alot of contributions has been made to remove Op's doubt. Still, they're multiple means to determine the legitimacy of an online casino, which this forum is also a better place to discover genuine online casinos. However, most of the members may not have been used by the entire forum users that's where casino review sites helps newbies or new users of a specific casino to know what actually happens in the casino before playing on the casino. You can check for user complaints too, anywhere even on the site or off the site. Casinomeister is also a better place to research for any online casino that you don't feel comfortable with the reviews you got from this forum.

A review website for casinos or any service can be helpful but only if the person who is posting the reviews is honest with them. I say that because most of the reviews that we see these days are basically not honest about the service or the platform and are simply paid reviews that are represented as honest reviews to the general public.

Most influencers do that too, they take money for doing a review since it's a kind of business and a way for them to make money, they just make a positive review about a platform without even knowing anything about it even if it's a scam or untrusted one in the back end.

And even if the review was honest, it does not really tell us anything about the casino, as the casino will treat the influencer with great care and attention and the influencer may think this is the actual treatment everyone receives at that casino, and when someone that watched their videos tries that casino by themselves they realize their experience is completely different, as unlike the influencer they are not important on the eyes of the casino and then they get scammed.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 23, 2023, 02:16:09 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on April 22, 2023, 06:43:43 PM

With numerous legit online casinos these days, you will never be prone to scams as long as you also gamble responsibly. And never worry if you made a huge win, with all the profits that they made out from those players losses, they will always have sufficient amount to pay for us, except for casinos that have not build its name and reputation in the gambling industry, they might struggle at first especially for jackpot wins. But rest assured, before they start their business, they have anticipated it already on paying their lucky players without payout delays.

But we still have to be careful, especially if we want to play at a new casino that we don't know because fraud can still happen at any time. By being careful, we can distance ourselves from this fraud and play gambling safely and comfortably.

Casinos wanting to grow their business to be bigger will always pay attention to their users and provide the best service to find a comfortable place to play. And casinos like that can grow bigger and will pay out the winnings to their users who win.

Distance immediately? I think that was quick. It's wrong to judge them without proving that they are truly shady. There are lots of ways to know if a casino is a scam. You can do it by yourself by trying their free offers. If you can withdraw the money then maybe they are legit but you must be careful and play small amount first because the early wins can only be their lure or bait in order to make the player confident.

If we are too scared to test the gambling site on our own then we can read the feedback of those who tried it. Legit casinos are the ones that can usually grow big but there are also big casinos who are still a scam. They might have lots of connections and they bribe them money to continue their operations.

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Quote from: dezoel on April 23, 2023, 11:30:50 AM

Quote from: Accardo on April 19, 2023, 05:29:18 AM

Going through the thread, I found that alot of contributions has been made to remove Op's doubt. Still, they're multiple means to determine the legitimacy of an online casino, which this forum is also a better place to discover genuine online casinos. However, most of the members may not have been used by the entire forum users that's where casino review sites helps newbies or new users of a specific casino to know what actually happens in the casino before playing on the casino. You can check for user complaints too, anywhere even on the site or off the site. Casinomeister is also a better place to research for any online casino that you don't feel comfortable with the reviews you got from this forum.

A review website for casinos or any service can be helpful but only if the person who is posting the reviews is honest with them. I say that because most of the reviews that we see these days are basically not honest about the service or the platform and are simply paid reviews that are represented as honest reviews to the general public.

Most influencers do that too, they take money for doing a review since it's a kind of business and a way for them to make money, they just make a positive review about a platform without even knowing anything about it even if it's a scam or untrusted one in the back end.

The world seems to be full of propaganda and sponsored supporters. Can you trust anyone? Difficult when everyone is after the same thing: money. Let's not give in to their deception, though. We won't base our judgments on paid for advice but on hard evidence that we unearth ourselves. It's time to take charge again and send a message to those critics and opinion leaders: we won't fall for their tricks and biases any more.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 22, 2023, 06:43:43 PM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on April 18, 2023, 12:36:21 AM

Playing/gambling at online casinos don't have many risk anymore. You have tonnes of regulated casinos out there so you can try one you are attracted to. Legit online casinos make profit through typical methods, always having advantage of being "house". House will always win some. So you don't need to worry if you win - they made enough profits that can cover your win from them. I think if you are seeking good legit online casino, enough is for to look at legal bindings and withdrawal (money) speeds.

With numerous legit online casinos these days, you will never be prone to scams as long as you also gamble responsibly. And never worry if you made a huge win, with all the profits that they made out from those players losses, they will always have sufficient amount to pay for us, except for casinos that have not build its name and reputation in the gambling industry, they might struggle at first especially for jackpot wins. But rest assured, before they start their business, they have anticipated it already on paying their lucky players without payout delays.

large casinos that are already popular and have many customers certainly have a large enough bankroll to pay gamblers who win big and large, popular casinos usually have good confidence in the security sector. so there is no need to worry if the casino used is a large, reputable casino.
as a gambler, you also have to be good at choosing which casino to place for gambling, don't make the mistake of placing money in gambling or casinos that don't have any reputation and always research from reviews in various places.

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At an online casino you have no control over your own money and your own payout. A casino can come up with all kinds of reasons to prevent you from paying out, and can do anything to delay your payout. There are plenty of examples of casinos that have done that. In a real physical casino you always get paid, you don't have that problem there. But the threshold to gamble online in a casino is of course also very low, and you can go there at any time of the day. the largest amounts are therefore put in and paid out one by one.

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Quote from: Accardo on April 19, 2023, 05:29:18 AM

Going through the thread, I found that alot of contributions has been made to remove Op's doubt. Still, they're multiple means to determine the legitimacy of an online casino, which this forum is also a better place to discover genuine online casinos. However, most of the members may not have been used by the entire forum users that's where casino review sites helps newbies or new users of a specific casino to know what actually happens in the casino before playing on the casino. You can check for user complaints too, anywhere even on the site or off the site. Casinomeister is also a better place to research for any online casino that you don't feel comfortable with the reviews you got from this forum.

A review website for casinos or any service can be helpful but only if the person who is posting the reviews is honest with them. I say that because most of the reviews that we see these days are basically not honest about the service or the platform and are simply paid reviews that are represented as honest reviews to the general public.

Most influencers do that too, they take money for doing a review since it's a kind of business and a way for them to make money, they just make a positive review about a platform without even knowing anything about it even if it's a scam or untrusted one in the back end.

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Quote from: KaizenJujustsu on March 31, 2023, 10:12:32 AM

I am just curious about how does online casino pay for their promotion on their influencers?

The marketplace is you. For online casinos, you produce income. The pay-per-click (or cost-per-click) model ¹, which is utilized in affiliate marketing, is one of the most noteworthy ways influencers get compensated. According to this approach, an influencer charges the online casino based on how frequently users click on promotional content that is linked to their websites. According to Amazon², cost per mille (CPM) is a pricing model where you pay a certain amount for 1,000 impressions, or the number of times your ad appears, is another option, in my opinion.

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