is Politics and Society board turning into a lowkey Off-topic board?

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Quote from: Xal0lex on September 26, 2023, 04:09:00 PM

Greetings, everyone. I am now the new moderator of Politics & Society ...

I am pleased to know that you are the new Moderator in that board, and I am confident that you will do a great job there. I don't know if this is a coincidence, but this topic has probably served more than its purpose. Let's make the Politics and Society board great again

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Quote from: JeromeTash on September 22, 2023, 04:58:46 PM

Sometimes I come across posts that to me look like they are best suited for Off-topic board rather than Politics and Society board. It gets a little confusing and there seems to be low or no Mod activity there. The Mod assigned for that board has been offline for ages.

Some people who post in that board don't really understand what discussions regarding society should be, so they make off topic discussions in disguise of making topics about the society.

Best action is to report those topics and keep reporting any such topic created on that board.

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Quote from: Xal0lex on September 26, 2023, 04:09:00 PM

Greetings, everyone. I am now the new moderator of Politics & Society. What I have to say about it.

Happy to hear that, such news coming in all of a sudden does make me hopeful of other good things in future.

Just one query - Although everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not everyone is mature enough (even after being 40-50+years in age) about making decisions about their health and what to follow. I have personally noticed a lot of pseudo-science peddlers in this section, making bizzare comments and recommending or propagating products or ideas that are solely pseudo-scientific.

For the members of this forum, I feel it is important that scientific temperament is kept evidence based, and hence would like to know how you are going to approach such topics or replies?

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Quote from: Xal0lex on September 26, 2023, 04:09:00 PM

Greetings, everyone. I am now the new moderator of Politics & Society. What I have to say about it.

1. First of all, I will be interested in off-topic topics. I have already moved a dozen or so topics to the Off-topic section. And I will work on it further.
2. Secondly, I will be interested in any calls for violence. What are calls for violence? I explained it in my post. I'll quote it here

I'm not sure how your appointment as moderator is related with appearance of this topic, but it's better later than never. Mod was needed a lot here.Welcome. I wish you patience with work here.
Without off-topic threads it already looks better

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 25, 2023, 01:37:43 AM

I think if the signature campaigns starts to pay for posting on this board then we will see different situation. Right now people have no incentive for discussion there. It's also true that most Bitcoiners don't find politics interesting.

Quote from: stompix on September 24, 2023, 05:10:39 AM

I dare you to go to that board and try to have a serious discussion with guys like BADecker or tom tung what's his name! Do it!!! I dare you!

I could not believe that the board was not in my ignore list but I just did LOL. No idea if Hugeblack is accepting the dare, but I will not find the board anymore. Peace 😃

BADecker will spam your topics with two-liner posts and irrelevant links, and if you respond to him by chance, he will depress you. I've argued before that politics is worth discussing on Twitter and other social media platforms where people are eager to discuss and know what they're talking about, rather than with random signature spammers trying to meet post quota.

Being on my ignore list for ages!!!

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Quote from: Xal0lex on September 26, 2023, 04:09:00 PM

Greetings, everyone. I am now the new moderator of Politics & Society. What I have to say about it.

Long overdue to have a moderator for the politics & Society board and a good chouse of a moderator for that board.

I hope we get actual moderation on that board and not just for a little while and then it gets run over by spam.

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Greetings, everyone. I am now the new moderator of Politics & Society. What I have to say about it.

1. First of all, I will be interested in off-topic topics. I have already moved a dozen or so topics to the Off-topic section. And I will work on it further.
2. Secondly, I will be interested in any calls for violence. What are calls for violence? I explained it in my post. I'll quote it here

Quote from: Xal0lex on April 18, 2022, 11:19:24 AM

The point is that as long as users don't violate forum rules with their posts, no one touches them. Formally, showing hatred is not a violation of the rules. The only thing is that if there is a specific call to violence in the post, such a post should be deleted and the user may get a ban.

Since Russia's war against Ukraine is illegal from the point of view of the United States, such statements on the forum should be deleted and users can be banned.

For example:

"Russian military: go bomb Ukraine!"
"You should go join the Russian army to help the war against Ukraine."
"You should attack Ukrainians."

But such statements (even though they are wrong) are allowed because they do not directly call for violence:

For example:

"The war against Ukraine is justified."
"It would strategically be a good idea for Putin to bomb Ukraine."

Specific incitement to violence is forbidden on the forum.

P.S. My post is based on a consultation with theymos.

I think you realize that this doesn't just apply to Russia's war with Ukraine. This is just an example, it applies to any calls for violence.

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I visit this board open and I agree with your thoughts. I wouldn't say that this board is completely terrible. Yes, there is lot of spammers, trolls and etc, but it's possible to have normal discussion here. But you can't expect that things will get much better here as long as there is no dedicated mod for that board. Only thing that we can do now is reporting such kind of topics like you show in OP.

Quote from: stompix on September 23, 2023, 07:35:42 AM

When you still have a topic like:
Elders of 13 inbred European Bloodlines house training their inbred children
on the first page among other such topics, it's a clear sign to just stay away from it if you don't have at least 4 years of 4chan training.

Damn, I completely forgot about this user Actor_Tom_Truong, damn, he is much worse than BADecker. Seems that his main account(s) is inactive, not banned, but he continue to post using new account.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on September 25, 2023, 07:55:09 AM

That's true. If we looked closely we would see many other boards that don't have any mod. It's obvious we're in short supply of mods. Theymos should hasten to that call for more mods so as not to overburden the few there are now.

I haven't noticed that some boards don't have mods, if that's the case then who's in charge of those boards without mods 🤔?
And Theymos is someone who waste time or takes time before he reads and answer to the request of many users in this Forum so that request of getting more mods won't be possible and if it's possible it will take years before Theymos answer to it.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on September 22, 2023, 04:58:46 PM

Sometimes I come across posts that to me look like they are best suited for Off-topic board rather than Politics and Society board. It gets a little confusing and there seems to be low or no Mod activity there. The Mod assigned for that board has been offline for ages.
Post like this have nothing to do with Politics and Society in my opinion, or am I being too extreme?

1. Do you take water intake seriously?
2. Beware of scammers.
3. YOUTUBE VS TIKTOK
and so on...

Thinking of reporting them, but I first need opinions just to be sure.

I have noticed this long ago and I wanted to report to moderators but on a second thought I didn't report because I noticed a similar sequence in other boards like Economics. These two boards;

Politics & Society
Economics

Some of the topics seen in these boards are off topics that the authors do not necessarily want to be in the off topic, so they gamble it and squeeze in any of the boards and the authors get lucky most times that they aren't deleted or moved.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on September 22, 2023, 04:58:46 PM

Sometimes I come across posts that to me look like they are best suited for Off-topic board rather than Politics and Society board. It gets a little confusing and there seems to be low or no Mod activity there. The Mod assigned for that board has been offline for ages.
Post like this have nothing to do with Politics and Society in my opinion, or am I being too extreme?

Thinking of reporting them, but I first need opinions just to be sure.

All of the links you provided are now on Off topic, they deserve to be in that section because it has nothing to do with the Politics and Society board, and sometimes members because of the topic that they've created just posted it on the section that is nearer to the topic they are creating very few members will create a topic on Off topic especially those under a signature campaign.
People should help the forum moderator classify topics so it's easy to hit the report button.

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I've also seen some topics that seems off topic to me personally on the politics and society board, but if we are to also consider the board title, we can see the society we have today as comprising alot that constitute the ways of life people engage daily under different aspects, so i also see this as a board that comprises many aspects of human living and talking about how we live in the society, we can have a broad discussion on that because there are many things to consider when it comes to how the people live in the society while politics alone on itself is another broad aspect as well, this almost makes any topic not well fitted for other boards be best posted on politics and society instead of going to off topic.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on September 23, 2023, 01:40:00 AM

Is really not easy being a mod so give them some encouragement, not easy as some of us see it.

Except I missed any subtlety there where OP insinuated that mods should be lampooned, otherwise I didn't see a call out for them. By the way, there's no mod assigned to those boards – Politics & Society, and Off-Topic.

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And it would be nice if new active mods are being added to help out too.

That's true. If we looked closely we would see many other boards that don't have any mod. It's obvious we're in short supply of mods. Theymos should hasten to that call for more mods so as not to overburden the few there are now.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on September 22, 2023, 04:58:46 PM

Sometimes I come across posts that to me look like they are best suited for Off-topic board rather than Politics and Society board. It gets a little confusing and there seems to be low or no Mod activity there. The Mod assigned for that board has been offline for ages.
Post like this have nothing to do with Politics and Society in my opinion, or am I being too extreme?

1. Do you take water intake seriously?
2. Beware of scammers.
3. YOUTUBE VS TIKTOK
and so on...

Thinking of reporting them, but I first need opinions just to be sure.

The truth of the fact is that P&S board is the playground where most Newbies get familiar with the forum & how it works, since politics & society is a general affair which an average Joe on the street could possibly have an idea what to contribute when topics are been raised, and as such there is a high tendency of we seeing shit-post and threads due to their low level of knowledge about how things on this forum works. Hence, it's the duty of the moderator to have moved or delete the unnecessary ones, but unfortunately he/she has been seen to be inactive for more than 2yrs now @ Flying Hellfish . So the only solution now, will be to not get tired of reporting any shitpost whenever you come across it.

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P&S is one of those sections of the forum which you find in the deepest depths of the internet and an absolute hilarious one too. I sometimes read a couple of threads and the replies there just to get a good laugh at seeing how badly some troll accounts can be in order to be a charlatan, I am sure my fellow forum members know who such accounts are.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though, hence I dont report nor take a grudge from these posts even if they go against my own way of thinking. At least you need a place to keep the whackos intact or they crap the rest of the forum too. Grin

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I think if the signature campaigns starts to pay for posting on this board then we will see different situation. Right now people have no incentive for discussion there. It's also true that most Bitcoiners don't find politics interesting.

Quote from: stompix on September 24, 2023, 05:10:39 AM

I dare you to go to that board and try to have a serious discussion with guys like BADecker or tom tung what's his name! Do it!!! I dare you!

I could not believe that the board was not in my ignore list but I just did LOL. No idea if Hugeblack is accepting the dare, but I will not find the board anymore. Peace 😃

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Quote from: stompix on September 24, 2023, 05:10:39 AM

Is it really that much spam in there?

Ah, not as much as the Bitcoin Discussion, but for a non-paid board, you'd expect less. There aren't lots of topics, that's why the bottom topic is from last week. There just isn't anything constructive last time I checked. Just usual nonsense posted by BADecker and his conspiracy crew. An endless discussion about the Ukrainian war, a dozen topics about Biden, and maybe some covid-19.

Quote from: Lida93 on September 24, 2023, 07:33:15 AM

I think reporting such posts to moderators when seen would be a nice thing to do to retaining quality somehow.

Good luck with that, last time Flying Hellfish (the P&S mod) was online was before the last bull run.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on September 22, 2023, 04:58:46 PM

Thinking of reporting them, but I first need opinions just to be sure.

I take myself for instance.
Initially when I started in the forum having no reliable knowledge about crypto that I could contribute to crypto discussions I quickly realized my limitation only going to the other boards that were on discussions about crypto just to read threads and seldom made comments.

While almost all my posts and comments were mainly in P&S I made sure to keep content quality in mind until I had to eventually move to other boards as my crypto knowledge broadening.

The picture am trying to paint is that most newbies the P&S board is usually their take off point in the forum and as they go using there to stay active it isn't surprising having a breed of low quality and off topic posts emanating there. I think reporting such posts to moderators when seen would be a nice thing to do to retaining quality somehow.

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Quote from: hugeblack on September 24, 2023, 03:12:34 AM

Then, with a little management, this board will be a place for those who want to discuss these political, although I believe that the goal of it is to discuss bitcoin-related political topics not purely political.

I dare you to go to that board and try to have a serious discussion with guys like BADecker or tom tung what's his name! Do it!!! I dare you!
Ps I don't offer a health plan, nor will I offer any psychiatric help afterward! You're on your own!
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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on September 24, 2023, 04:36:32 AM

I must have reported several posts in that sub-board, but stopped either because with so much spam it was pointless, or reports were mostly ignored.

Is it really that much spam in there?
I just opened that board and the last topic on the front page was last bumped a week ago, tossing aside three mega threads the rest are well below 100 relies so not that much activity.

Quote from: Plaguedeath on September 24, 2023, 03:29:14 AM

I disagree for ban signature in Politics and Society board because this board has low traffic, banning the signature will make the traffic lower.

So that means you agree half of those are posting there just for quota, not only you have political bias but now you have a monetary bias also, on top of the fact that you can basically write anything there since it's your opinion and it can't be wrong, and here you go, the perfect recipe for a cesspool.

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Quote from: hugeblack on September 24, 2023, 03:12:34 AM

Does anyone agree with this board description or am I wrong?

There is no right or wrong in this discussion. However a campaign has the right to count or not on boards they feel are good for advertising their services. Apart from that, we are actually free to discuss on any board. This happens because most members prioritize the campaign over the discussion itself, in my opinion this is a reverse perspective

Quote from: Plaguedeath on September 24, 2023, 03:29:14 AM

Since we're in Bitcoin forum, any discussion should be related to Bitcoin, otherwise it should be moved to off topic.

Who told you about it? In fact, there is a board for altcoins here so there is no discussion about Bitcoin. Should this also be moved off topic?

Quote from: Plaguedeath on September 24, 2023, 03:29:14 AM

I disagree for ban signature in Politics and Society board because this board has low traffic, banning the signature will make the traffic lower.

You can do this if you have your own campaign. If not, then no one needs to agree with your opinion

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