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Quote from: Frankolala on September 10, 2023, 02:24:48 PM

We can't do without politics because it is human nature. There most be people to lead and people on high authorities to make sure that the country is in a progressive state. Politics is needed to choose a leader or president. Politics is everywhere,in churches,families,in our place of work.

I understood the context in wish the Op asked the question if politics is really necessary. If politics is played rightly the way it is supposed to be in order to cater for the poor masses and the general public, op would not have asked this question regarding the necessity of politics. The reason why he asked the question is because politics has been hijacked by some few cartel who does not do any good thing with politics rather, they use the power given to them by the people to intimidate some people and accumulate much money for their personal use instead of using the money for the general benefits of the public.

This type of politics is really not necessary but the real type of politics where the politician who eventually becomes the leader uses the resources of the people to take care of the people is necessary.

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Quote from: montaga on September 24, 2023, 11:28:27 AM

Literal meaning of a word according to its origin.

Funny.
But I still say that (even though there are many of those blood sucking parasites in the democratic system we take for granted) politics is a necessary thing to keep the life style we have grown up with.

I do not blame anyone for seeking for an improvement, though. It is not the idea to be mediocre, if you have any idea of a better society, I invite you to explain to us how all of it would work without those ticks you mentioned in your meme.

Not all of us are blood thirsty insects Wink

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Quote from: montaga on September 24, 2023, 11:28:27 AM

Literal meaning of a word according to its origin.

Funny.
But I still say that (even though there are many of those blood sucking parasites in the democratic system we take for granted) politics is a necessary thing to keep the life style we have grown up with.

I do not blame anyone for seeking for an improvement, though. It is not the idea to be mediocre, if you have any idea of a better society, I invite you to explain to us how all of it would work without those ticks you mentioned in your meme.

Not all of us are blood thirsty insects Wink

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Literal meaning of a word according to its origin.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on August 29, 2023, 12:34:25 PM

Politics has become a business in some number of countries i know. Where people from younger to older age are all affected. They are doing politics to gain their power. In all these countries murders, fights, thefts, robberies have increased because they are doing these bad activities using political power.

Disadvantages of politics:
1. The number of your enemies will increase
2. It will be a waste of money.
3. Your time will be wasted.
4. You may have the possibility of death.

At OP, your point of view in politics is being biased. I was expecting you would always quote the advantages there in politics after stated the disadvantages.

However, I would contribute to the body that the necessity of Politics is tended to expose the governoring potentials of individuals. Also as to the field exercises of democracies, justice and equities in governance around the societies.
Instead some dubious individuals in the field has adopted a negative naive to hijack its orderliness where a slogan has come to existence saying "politics is a dirty game and of course a game of interest (selfishness).

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The problem isn't the politic, the politic is a necessary bad thing. The problem is the state, while more state it's over the citizen, more problems will have they to thrive. They can't help you to get ahead, but they can't fuck you attempts.

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Quote from: Macoach on September 16, 2023, 06:49:41 PM

I'm not sure why you're asking, but in the absence of politicians, who would govern the political systems, and what would most countries look like? While we acknowledge that political systems can be rigged and corrupt, they are also a better alternative to dictatorship. The root issue often lies in human selfishness.

Why you need a Taxi driver and cant drive and goven yourself?

Many people can't drive because they:
-never had a license
-lost a license for various reasons like drunk driving
-are blind
-can't learn to drive
-are afraid to drive themselves

Do you see where I'm going here?

There are some things we just can't do ourselves. As long as there are countries and borders, there will be politics.

Lets just make it short, they are blind.
If someone does not want to drive, that is fine, but i see no reason to pay for his fare.
There is no need for countries (which are companys) and borders, politicians are extremly inefficient.
Someone wanting to do something will spend a lot me more energy as someone told to do.

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Political people have power to do all type of crime. Political people join politics because of money and power. They have power for any post, they take money from money and post is given to that person who is not eligible for this post. They have also power to do any type of crime. Political people involve in all types of crime. They collaborate with Police and do corruption. Political people reserve seat for a person who will take care of them and will do all type of their work. I see many political person who are dictator and who are eligible for this post. They do all type of sin . They do not poor people sound. They do work of someone who is in relationship with them. They are egoistic person, they sit at good seat and they sit poor people on land. They understand superior from poor people. They do not show good behavior with poor people, and poor people hate them.

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Quote from: montaga on September 17, 2023, 10:20:06 AM

Quote from: Macoach on September 16, 2023, 06:49:41 PM

I'm not sure why you're asking, but in the absence of politicians, who would govern the political systems, and what would most countries look like? While we acknowledge that political systems can be rigged and corrupt, they are also a better alternative to dictatorship. The root issue often lies in human selfishness.

Why you need a Taxi driver and cant drive and goven yourself?

Many people can't drive because they:
-never had a license
-lost a license for various reasons like drunk driving
-are blind
-can't learn to drive
-are afraid to drive themselves

Do you see where I'm going here?

There are some things we just can't do ourselves. As long as there are countries and borders, there will be politics.

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Quote from: Macoach on September 16, 2023, 06:49:41 PM

I'm not sure why you're asking, but in the absence of politicians, who would govern the political systems, and what would most countries look like? While we acknowledge that political systems can be rigged and corrupt, they are also a better alternative to dictatorship. The root issue often lies in human selfishness.

Why you need a Taxi driver and cant drive and goven yourself?

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Quote from: Jocuserious on August 29, 2023, 12:34:25 PM

Politics has become a business in some number of countries i know. Where people from younger to older age are all affected. They are doing politics to gain their power. In all these countries murders, fights, thefts, robberies have increased because they are doing these bad activities using political power.

Disadvantages of politics:
1. The number of your enemies will increase
2. It will be a waste of money.
3. Your time will be wasted.
4. You may have the possibility of death.

It may not be obvious but Politics is a business in each and every country. A few politician might have social service in their mind but almost all of them are involved in some degree of abuse of power and corruption. Just because some countries are much vocal about corruption in other countries doesn't mean they are not corrupt.

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I'm not sure why you're asking, but in the absence of politicians, who would govern the political systems, and what would most countries look like? While we acknowledge that political systems can be rigged and corrupt, they are also a better alternative to dictatorship. The root issue often lies in human selfishness.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on August 29, 2023, 12:34:25 PM

Politics has become a business in some number of countries i know. Where people from younger to older age are all affected. They are doing politics to gain their power. In all these countries murders, fights, thefts, robberies have increased because they are doing these bad activities using political power.

Disadvantages of politics:
1. The number of your enemies will increase
2. It will be a waste of money.
3. Your time will be wasted.
4. You may have the possibility of death.

In as much as life is concerned, politics is very important. No matter how corrupt our political system is now, we shouldn't show less concern on politics because the decisions of this our political leaders is gonna affect us one way or the other.

I think there is need for us to be involved in politics no matter how porous our political system is because if we keep allowing this our corrupt political leaders to keep ruling us we are jeopardizing the future of our upcoming generation.

So i believe that if we show interest in politics there will be chances of us having a privilege to make things right and even bring new ideas that will improve our political system.

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They would say politics is a game of interest and for that when they finally gets in, their prior obligations is always self-centered.
Corruption begins when there is a segregation to classify a differentiation between the citizens and of course the masses in an overview where some person's are considered being above the laws blatantly bridging the constitutions and laws of the judiciaries.
Politics that was supposed to be a opportunity to create challengeable impacts building honorary legacies had become a heritance game of personal interests ignorantly loosing it's point of being a leader and or a representative.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 10, 2023, 02:24:48 PM

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There are not God fearing people.

This is the irony in the matter of politics. I think in the bible, it was mentioned that the people rejoice when the righteous is on the throne. So are there no righteous in the throne or is every politicians agent of darkness?

But people have to occupy does polical offices and most times they are those who would squander the public funds because no righteous man would challenge them down on such wrong doing.

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We can't do without politics because it is human nature. There most be people to lead and people on high authorities to make sure that the country is in a progressive state. Politics is needed to choose a leader or president. Politics is everywhere,in churches,families,in our place of work.

The problem with politics is that,the wrong people are given power to and that is why they bring out the beast in them,when they are in power. It is called a dirty game because majority of the politicians are desperate for power and they can go to any length to get want they want. There are not God fearing people.

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Despite the disadvantage, politics is very necessary, and there is nothing that has a disadvantage without an advantage too. You have mentioned the disadvantage of politics; have you also looked at the advantage? Only to specifically list three advantages.

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Politics clarifies what you yourself believe.

Politics helps you understand our nation's parties.

Helps you know your rights.

This and more are good advantages of politics, but we cannot overlook the advantage and condemn politics as something less important in a nation. Also, the possibility of death in politics depends on the level of corruption in the parties, which in most cases one can avoid it by being very careful and application of wisdom.

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I bet you, the world would have not been this organized if there were no governance, and as you know governance is politics in itself and there is no way you can separate man from politics since man is by nature a political animal, this make is obviously that we can't do away with politics but we can change the narratives on how politics is played.

There is no doubt, all the features you mentioned are all attributes of politics, in countries that lack a democratic systems, and have high rates of corruption, insecurity and other bad political factors, but that doesn't eliminate the many advantages of politics as well.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on August 29, 2023, 12:34:25 PM

Politics has become a business in some number of countries i know. Where people from younger to older age are all affected. They are doing politics to gain their power. In all these countries murders, fights, thefts, robberies have increased because they are doing these bad activities using political power.
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What an earth are you suggesting to replace it with? What sort of government system would work without politics? Didcatorship or total anarchy? Politics are essential for any sort of governance of area if we want to debate on different ideas/parties. Otherwise it's just dictatorship. If in your country it involves murders, it's not because of politics but because of corruption. Which ironically can only solved with political decisions.

I suggest you educate yourself on this subject as you don't seem to understand politics.

You can just start from here as it's a huge subject:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics

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Quote from: Jocuserious on August 29, 2023, 12:34:25 PM

Politics has become a business in some number of countries i know. Where people from younger to older age are all affected. They are doing politics to gain their power. In all these countries murders, fights, thefts, robberies have increased because they are doing these bad activities using political power.

Disadvantages of politics:
1. The number of your enemies will increase
2. It will be a waste of money.
3. Your time will be wasted.
4. You may have the possibility of death.

Politics is as necessary as dentistry. It is unlikely that anyone will argue about the importance and necessity of dentistry - although dentistry is often unpleasant, sometimes painful and almost always expensive. The main problem with politics (apart from corrupt incompetent non-professionals) is that it tries to extend its importance to all spheres of human life. It is as absurd as if someone started to claim that everything in the world depends on dentistry.

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