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Topic: Is Roger ver the only person who to blame right now? (Read 962 times)

jr. member
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This is what happened, we survived for bitcoin and let them rejoice in their discovery, we think positively for bitcoin and other cryptos. ABC's bitcoin attack is indeed quite good and hopes this competition will remain healthy.
full member
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Do you realize how stupid , you all sound hating on 1 single guy for the price collapse of a crypto market.

He is 1 guy, he is not your president ,  he is not your king, he is not the head of the IMF.

Get the fuck over yourselves and quit blaming one guy because you are upset at your poor investment skills.

Grow the fuck up , you silly bunch of Nancys.


but but but .. .. .....
every statement from both of them will definitely have an impact on the price of cryptocurrency
like it or not they both have a big influence
and of course the drama that happens to BCH (now ABC) will have an impact on all coins
especially the statement from Faketoshi who said to declare war on all coins that tried to fight bitcoin
like the previous statement on his Twitter account, Faketoshi will also attack Ripple XRP in a few years

The guy above you is correct .  those are only normal people and we should not believe on what they were trying to say but we should rather foccus on what we are currently doing right now and that is to hodl and buy more coins  .  even if those guys say that cryptos will go down , just dont ever believe on them because we already see that cryptos are now being applied on our daily lives . crypto is the future of money and no one can change that destiny  .
legendary
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that's exactly what it is, drama and nothing more. even the lawsuit that the site is talking about is pure drama. and it has been used for manipulation of the bitcoin price which is followed by the massive dump of altcoins.
legendary
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Yeah, let the drama continues and exposed how greedy those people are. Its pretty obvious that they manipulated everything from the beginning. The lawsuit states that they committed unfair practice by converting their Bitcoin gear and renting extra hardware to mine Bitcoin Cash ABC. Its a messed they started that we all have to suffered, to say the least.
jr. member
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Do you realize how stupid , you all sound hating on 1 single guy for the price collapse of a crypto market.

He is 1 guy, he is not your president ,  he is not your king, he is not the head of the IMF.

Get the fuck over yourselves and quit blaming one guy because you are upset at your poor investment skills.

Grow the fuck up , you silly bunch of Nancys.


but but but .. .. .....
every statement from both of them will definitely have an impact on the price of cryptocurrency
like it or not they both have a big influence
and of course the drama that happens to BCH (now ABC) will have an impact on all coins
especially the statement from Faketoshi who said to declare war on all coins that tried to fight bitcoin
like the previous statement on his Twitter account, Faketoshi will also attack Ripple XRP in a few years
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Killing Lightning Network with a 51% Ignore attack
Do you realize how stupid , you all sound hating on 1 single guy for the price collapse of a crypto market.

He is 1 guy, he is not your president ,  he is not your king, he is not the head of the IMF.

Get the fuck over yourselves and quit blaming one guy because you are upset at your poor investment skills.

Grow the fuck up , you silly bunch of Nancys.
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I dont know who is to blame in this bear market. I am prefer looking this as an opportunity. With most coin drop more than 90% from highest, i think its good time for accumulating more coin in good project and having working product
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Roger ver, a greedy and very arrogant person who creates chaos now in the crypto world, I will not be affected by nonsense Roger ver, but I am worried about new bitcoin users, afraid they will be affected by nonsense Roger ver.
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I agree, they are all people who deserve to be blamed for all the market price chaos today. but surely they are not the only factor and the reason for all these events, since the beginning of the year we have presented difficult moments and problems that came from outside the crypto industry (like gov and bank). so roger ver and craight wright is only a supporter of the chaos that has actually been formed long before.
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After this blaming would it change the reality?Be mature guys and move on,decide if you will still trust this market or you need to go to another field of profiteering
For me everything is possible to happen even how hard we dont want this to be,let us continue supporting the coins were holding and just dont mind what roger ver and craig wright has to do,and besides small investors like us is the most affected from this
legendary
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STOP SNITCHIN'
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Roger Ver is The Main Player Behind This Hash War Thats Been Going On Between BITCOIN & BCash ABC

This is The Guy Who is Supporting BCashABC Most
This is The Guy Who is The CEO of Bitcoin.com Website

and Bitcoin.com has its Mining Pool Who Provides a Significant Amount of HashPower to The BITCOIN Network
and now, look at both price. abc price 50% under bch before fork. all war on the world will be come destroyer anything, cryptocurrency too bad for that destroying 1-2 person with they egosentric.

they don't care about the price, of course they wanted a higher price but that still is free money that they earned out of thin air and with a little bit of social media drama.
not to mention the fact that now they are buying bitcoin at a much cheaper price compared to before! so that is even more profit.

Before the network split, the price of BCH was $512. Now the combined price of both BCH tokens is $247. It's hard to think of that as free money! More like lost money. Cheesy

I'm not sure about the ABC side, but didn't Craig Wright say his side was selling BTC to fund this little war? I don't think any party in this war benefits from lower BTC prices...
sr. member
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Some people think that market drop at this months because bitcoin cash fork. Its like civir war in cryptomarket. I dont know about this but i think market already drop the value since beginning year.

this is part of the whales game, they throw their bitcoin in various big exchanges like bitfinex. this is a hard blow for investors and beginners.
anything must be dealt with, hopefully the market will turn green.
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Some people think that market drop at this months because bitcoin cash fork. Its like civir war in cryptomarket. I dont know about this but i think market already drop the value since beginning year.
hero member
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HODLing is an art, not just a word...
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Roger Ver is The Main Player Behind This Hash War Thats Been Going On Between BITCOIN & BCash ABC

This is The Guy Who is Supporting BCashABC Most
This is The Guy Who is The CEO of Bitcoin.com Website

and Bitcoin.com has its Mining Pool Who Provides a Significant Amount of HashPower to The BITCOIN Network
and now, look at both price. abc price 50% under bch before fork. all war on the world will be come destroyer anything, cryptocurrency too bad for that destroying 1-2 person with they egosentric.

they don't care about the price, of course they wanted a higher price but that still is free money that they earned out of thin air and with a little bit of social media drama.
not to mention the fact that now they are buying bitcoin at a much cheaper price compared to before! so that is even more profit.
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Killing Lightning Network with a 51% Ignore attack
Isn't it caught in the crossfire because BTC hashrate is being used to support ABC? Genuinely curious as I haven't caught up with the drama.

Yes, AFAIK it is ABC who is receiving the hash power from bitcoin which resulted into a drop in the overall hash rate of the bitcoin network, though that's not enough to actually point a finger over what happened with the prices recently. Other traders surely have panicked when the price crashed lower than $5800 and everything started to crumble, and no, they might not have known about the drama between ABC and SV so it's somewhat wrong to assert that everything that's happening is solely the cause the petty drama between CSW and Roger Ver.

I was also the impression that Antpool and Bitcoin.com have re-routed their hash power from Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash ABC that's why they have reported that they're winning the war against Bitcoin Cash SV.

i still don't understand why people think "bitcoin" miners redirected their mining power to these altcoins! BCH already had a big mining power coming from Antpool and Bitcoin.com and it remained that way. while SV needed to get power which CSW provided but not from bitcoin.
additionally if you check the hashrate charts you can see that when the fork occurred there has been no hashrate change for bitcoin. but after the price dropped the hashrate went down, and only a little which is logical since lower price == lower profit and not all miners can continue mining under those circumstances. and mining BCH and SV have been even less profitable (you lose money if you mine SV) so i doubt anybody bothered with it.

Whether or not the forks or the energy waste causing miners to go out of business because mining btc is no longer profitable.
https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/hash-rate
The btc hash rate has declined
8/26/2018  =>  61,866,256 TH/s
11/21/2018=>  40,349,972 TH/s

That is ~35% drop in less than 3 months.
For a coin that promote it's energy waste and Hash rate as it's security, it now means btc is ~35% less secure than it was ~3 months ago.
Unless people decide to be honest and admit btc is secured by bitmain greater than 51% centralized control as it has been for years.  Wink


FYI:
Blaming two people alone for an entire industry market crash is beyond asinine.
Blame the miners, Blame the buyers & sellers, Blame the tether scandal, and when you done with that ,
get a mirror and point your finger at yourself and then blame yourself for being the dumbass that fell for it.  Kiss
After that you have now blamed everyone , and now can get on with your life. 
legendary
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Isn't it caught in the crossfire because BTC hashrate is being used to support ABC? Genuinely curious as I haven't caught up with the drama.

Yes, AFAIK it is ABC who is receiving the hash power from bitcoin which resulted into a drop in the overall hash rate of the bitcoin network, though that's not enough to actually point a finger over what happened with the prices recently. Other traders surely have panicked when the price crashed lower than $5800 and everything started to crumble, and no, they might not have known about the drama between ABC and SV so it's somewhat wrong to assert that everything that's happening is solely the cause the petty drama between CSW and Roger Ver.

I was also the impression that Antpool and Bitcoin.com have re-routed their hash power from Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash ABC that's why they have reported that they're winning the war against Bitcoin Cash SV.

i still don't understand why people think "bitcoin" miners redirected their mining power to these altcoins! BCH already had a big mining power coming from Antpool and Bitcoin.com and it remained that way. while SV needed to get power which CSW provided but not from bitcoin.
additionally if you check the hashrate charts you can see that when the fork occurred there has been no hashrate change for bitcoin. but after the price dropped the hashrate went down, and only a little which is logical since lower price == lower profit and not all miners can continue mining under those circumstances. and mining BCH and SV have been even less profitable (you lose money if you mine SV) so i doubt anybody bothered with it.
full member
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Europe Belongs To Christians
hashwar doen't direct affect the price directly  TBH
jr. member
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come on senior, i am newbie here, change my topics..am i deserve to be said nuts?

Your thread is now 3 pages long with 375 views... I think that's worthy of a merit. Congrats, you're no longer a newbie.
thanks you miss, you are real legendary person in my lyfe Grin
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Quote
Roger Ver is The Main Player Behind This Hash War Thats Been Going On Between BITCOIN & BCash ABC

This is The Guy Who is Supporting BCashABC Most
This is The Guy Who is The CEO of Bitcoin.com Website

and Bitcoin.com has its Mining Pool Who Provides a Significant Amount of HashPower to The BITCOIN Network
and now, look at both price. abc price 50% under bch before fork. all war on the world will be come destroyer anything, cryptocurrency too bad for that destroying 1-2 person with they egosentric.
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