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Quote from: CODE200 on March 06, 2024, 10:48:33 PM

I think we would, my hunch is that he's definitely the kind of guy that would definitely show up and will show his presence

I am not sure how exactly you have come to this conclusion.
Satoshi has always tried to remain hidden. When Gavin went to the CIA, then Satoshi instantly stopped and sent this email (tldr: I've moved on to other things.".
Satoshi sent this email on Apr 23, 2011.
Since then, we have no clue about his whereabouts. So, does he really give you the impression of a guy that would show up?

Quote from: CODE200 on March 06, 2024, 10:48:33 PM

I don't think so too but thing about it this way, he's the richest man in the world and he can decide to probably flood the bitcoin market with those old bitcoins to literally shake the market but the problem is that, he's never going to be able to sell it all at once, would be difficult I think.

Let's say he does. Let's say he moves his coins and tries to sell them.
Where would he do that? In a CEX?
You know that the authorities will contact the CEX instantly and they will freeze the coins, until they are done with inspecting Satoshi (the real person).

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Quote from: Cryptoababe on March 03, 2024, 08:26:50 PM

I think if sathosi wanna come back. He would have revealed himself since. Although I don't see him as revealing him self to cause any bear market because people will tend to buy all his Bitcoin these days.

Moreover the BTCs that are being sent to his address seems to be a form of gratitude as you've said. But is that not also like burning Bitcoin?

it is good Satoshi stays anonymous, the quest of knowing who the person is, has also prompted people to buy Bitcoin BTC which is a vital speculation strategy used by the creators. Also, there would be countless regulations for blockchain technology if a face is tagged to bitcoin since it was the first ever coin.

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Quote from: apogio on March 03, 2024, 11:57:13 AM

If Satoshi returned, chances are we wouldn't know Tongue

Satoshi has managed to stay perfectly hidden. Nowadays, staying hidden in the digital world seems almost infeasible, but yet, Satoshi approached (unless proven differently), the perfect anonymity.

I think we would, my hunch is that he's definitely the kind of guy that would definitely show up and will show his presence, he would be expressing his sadness for the loss of his friend Hal, and I think that those bitcoins in those addresses are going to be given back to others like some sort of digital money rain. It's easy to actually hide your identity, and knowing Satoshi and his genius, I think that it's easy for him to forge another identity which he can then use to scour the world wide web without any worries that someone would identify him.

Quote from: apogio on March 03, 2024, 11:57:13 AM

I highly doubt that Satoshi would ever move his coins. The real person behind Satoshi must be owning bitcoins in other addresses that we are not aware of. Satoshi is a digital persona, linked with the initial blocks that were mined. But, the real person behind Satoshi could be anyone and, of course, they must have other coins somewhere. Having said that, I believe that Satoshi is just using bitcoin like everyone of us.

I don't think so too but thing about it this way, he's the richest man in the world and he can decide to probably flood the bitcoin market with those old bitcoins to literally shake the market but the problem is that, he's never going to be able to sell it all at once, would be difficult I think.

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I don't see any reason the appearance of satoshi would cause a bear market or how it would have any impact on the bull, majority of investors doesn't even know who or what sataoshi is and probably doesn't care, it would probably be a government thign, who knows what charges they have been keeping against him or why he chose to stay hidden, the only fear I guess people would have is the 1 million billion he has and if he choses to sell might cause a big crash for a while and it could start a whole uproar and cause investors to start to withdraw their money, I guess it's quite possible, but any way he coudl still stay in hiding and sell some bitcoin and at same time it would still have that impact on the market.

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Quote from: avp2306 on March 04, 2024, 05:12:27 AM

It doesn't change anything. Do you see any strong impact happen to Ethereum when people know who is the creator of that coin? Nothing right so maybe the same thing will happen to Bitcoin and people will just continue to do their thing especially on investment.

It doea actually. If his indeed alive and can access his wallet dont you think its not gonna make a bubble? Of course people will get panic that a possibility Satoshi can dumped his bitcoin share could be a tragic blow to market and possibly whole financial sector. But lets hope that if his indeed able to touch his wallet he wont do anything that ruins its current state.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on March 05, 2024, 03:12:31 PM

Quote from: Hello_Bubble_World on March 03, 2024, 12:02:14 PM

There will be a temporary massive panic in the BTC market if/when Satoshi starts to sell his huge pile of virgin coins. This will present a great opportunity for people with the guts to go against the crowd. The damage could be more severe and long-lasting if it combined with bad news related to the on-going post-FTX drama, and more countries "banning BTC", etc. Our bear markets get pretty predictable after a while, but the FTX hangover is real and not over with yet.

What if also coins are moved out from other wallets to the Genesis wallet or any other wallets rumoured to belong to Satoshi? What do you think will happen to the price of Bitcoin? It will spike, right? Well, I would think that if coins begin to get sold from these wallets now that we're in a bull run it won't cause much panic. People will hardly notice it. Panic might come if it were done in the bear season but definitely not now.

I kind of view this in the opposite side from your view, there may be serious panic selling of BTC in the short term because if people suddenly start to see selling of Bitcoin on the address that is linked to Satoshi, It would seem like Satoshi got vital information and that's reason to sell, especially now that the bull market is around the corner, even me I will be curious to know , having known that we are about creating a new ATH. A lot of investors would be wondering why the address is selling despite the fact that Satoshi doesn't control or manipulate the price of Bitcoin.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on March 05, 2024, 06:43:16 PM

Quote from: albon on March 05, 2024, 04:50:26 PM

For many years, this question has been asked constantly in the forum and on social media: Is Satoshi alive? Some believe Satoshi is alive, while many people have claimed to be the real Satoshi for various reasons. Others believe Satoshi is dead because he disappeared for many years after creating Bitcoin. It is worth noting that no one can answer this question because Satoshi did not reveal his real identity and remains anonymous.

I can't be sure of one of them because maybe I could guess wrong. No one knows for sure whether Satoshi was one person or a group - while his identity is top secret, you are right that several people have claimed to be Satoshi, but all of them are fake.

He may be alive or dead - also they are still there even though none of them revealed his identity ^{[if it was a group].} I don't know - I'm not going to make a big deal out of it because the reality is that a lot of people don't want him back because they're afraid of the assets he has in wallets.

Anything related to Satoshi Nakamoto will always be a long debate that will never be resolved at any time.
The true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is still unknown, and there will always be a lot of speculation if there are similar or related questions to Satoshi Nakamoto regarding who he really is.
And as you said, Satoshi Nakamoto's real identity cannot be ascertained, whether he was alone, in a group or something else and it is also unclear whether he or they are still alive or not and no one knows it accurately.

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Quote from: ItsaWhale on March 03, 2024, 11:13:40 AM

What do u think would be the Impact of Crypto world if Satoshi Nakamoto is Alive and come out on Public ?
would we have a strong Bear market ?!

Bitcoin has proven it's genuineness over years to people without it's existence. So if he decides to make its identity known, I don't think Knowing he's identity can have any significant effect on the coin or it's investor

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Quote from: albon on March 05, 2024, 04:50:26 PM

For many years, this question has been asked constantly in the forum and on social media: Is Satoshi alive? Some believe Satoshi is alive, while many people have claimed to be the real Satoshi for various reasons. Others believe Satoshi is dead because he disappeared for many years after creating Bitcoin. It is worth noting that no one can answer this question because Satoshi did not reveal his real identity and remains anonymous.

I can't be sure of one of them because maybe I could guess wrong. No one knows for sure whether Satoshi was one person or a group - while his identity is top secret, you are right that several people have claimed to be Satoshi, but all of them are fake.

He may be alive or dead - also they are still there even though none of them revealed his identity ^{[if it was a group].} I don't know - I'm not going to make a big deal out of it because the reality is that a lot of people don't want him back because they're afraid of the assets he has in wallets.

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Quote from: apogio on March 05, 2024, 03:31:49 AM

Quote from: oktana on March 04, 2024, 04:55:33 PM

I think the $1.2 Million was just someone trying to say “thank you for building Bitcoin, I have make just too much money from it”

Not that this is excused by any means. Donating to an address that you know is highly unlikely to ever move its coins is kind of strange. But, I understand that the reason behind this move is:
(a) support the whole network by "burning" some coins.
(b) support satoshi by donating him some of my coins.
Yet, again, the amount is so big, that it could be donated to some charity or open-source development projects.
My humble opinion.

I don’t even think of it as a way of burning. I don’t believe that was the user’s intention. I think it just has to do with gratitude that they’ve made so much so they just wanted to send the money there even if they know it could be a waste. People are crazy; Elon sent a car to float in space just because he could afford it. What if this user has made Billions of dollars and did it just because they could? I’m only thinking though.

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For many years, this question has been asked constantly in the forum and on social media: Is Satoshi alive? Some believe Satoshi is alive, while many people have claimed to be the real Satoshi for various reasons. Others believe Satoshi is dead because he disappeared for many years after creating Bitcoin. It is worth noting that no one can answer this question because Satoshi did not reveal his real identity and remains anonymous.

Knowing this doesn't matter much. What he did was an ideal security precaution to protect him from governments and central authorities and is one of the reasons for the success of the decentralized Bitcoin system, which countries and regimes are trying to suppress and stop. Still, it continued against their will and gained widespread adoption and reliability. Maybe things would have been much worse if Satoshi had been around us and his identity had been known.

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Quote from: Hello_Bubble_World on March 03, 2024, 12:02:14 PM

There will be a temporary massive panic in the BTC market if/when Satoshi starts to sell his huge pile of virgin coins. This will present a great opportunity for people with the guts to go against the crowd. The damage could be more severe and long-lasting if it combined with bad news related to the on-going post-FTX drama, and more countries "banning BTC", etc. Our bear markets get pretty predictable after a while, but the FTX hangover is real and not over with yet.

What if also coins are moved out from other wallets to the Genesis wallet or any other wallets rumoured to belong to Satoshi? What do you think will happen to the price of Bitcoin? It will spike, right? Well, I would think that if coins begin to get sold from these wallets now that we're in a bull run it won't cause much panic. People will hardly notice it. Panic might come if it were done in the bear season but definitely not now.

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I think "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a generation, It's not the real name.Nobody knows who and where live or dead!

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Quote from: apogio on March 05, 2024, 03:31:49 AM

Quote from: oktana on March 04, 2024, 04:55:33 PM

I think the $1.2 Million was just someone trying to say “thank you for building Bitcoin, I have make just too much money from it”

Not that this is excused by any means. Donating to an address that you know is highly unlikely to ever move its coins is kind of strange.

Very strange indeed and it can only give the idea that the sender might have access to withdraw the coin in the future. But all these are just mere speculations as there's no evidence to back it up.

Quote from: apogio on March 05, 2024, 03:31:49 AM

But, I understand that the reason behind this move is:
(a) support the whole network by "burning" some coins.

But BTC is not a random altcoin like Shiba or Bonk whose success depends on how many coins burnt. BTC has a way of burning itself considering the amount of lost BTC.

Quote from: apogio on March 05, 2024, 03:31:49 AM

(b) support satoshi by donating him some of my coins.

It is very likely that Satoshi is dead and no one will everly withdraw from that address or still Satoshi himself has forget the details to access the address.

Quote from: apogio on March 05, 2024, 03:31:49 AM

Yet, again, the amount is so big, that it could be donated to some charity or open-source development projects.
My humble opinion.

Maybe the donator had also donated to the above mentioned names.

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Quote from: oktana on March 04, 2024, 04:55:33 PM

I think the $1.2 Million was just someone trying to say “thank you for building Bitcoin, I have make just too much money from it”

Not that this is excused by any means. Donating to an address that you know is highly unlikely to ever move its coins is kind of strange. But, I understand that the reason behind this move is:
(a) support the whole network by "burning" some coins.
(b) support satoshi by donating him some of my coins.
Yet, again, the amount is so big, that it could be donated to some charity or open-source development projects.
My humble opinion.

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It will be terrific if Satoshi Nakamoto came online and said that he wants to sell all his Bitcoins, it will create so much FUD that Bitcoin could crash really badly. But that’s just imagination because even if he were to come back, I don’t believe he will come to destroy what he built. If on the other hand, he gave a speech or wrote an article on the visions he has for Bitcoin, it will give investors hope to even invest more.

I think the $1.2 Million was just someone trying to say “thank you for building Bitcoin, I have make just too much money from it”

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Quote from: avp2306 on March 04, 2024, 05:12:27 AM

It doesn't change anything. Do you see any strong impact happen to Ethereum when people know who is the creator of that coin? Nothing right so maybe the same thing will happen to Bitcoin and people will just continue to do their thing especially on investment.

It is a different condition when you compare to Vitalik Buterin. When people know him as the creator of Ethereum, people won't be so surprised because there is nothing to exaggerate. But when people know Satoshi, it will be shocking the world. The story and the role of Satoshi in crypto industry, it makes him to have a special value. Moreover, people doubt he may be caught by the government and the future of crypto will be doubtful if we know who Satoshi is.

Quote from: avp2306 on March 04, 2024, 05:12:27 AM

The only changes will happen there is people will stop discussing any related to his identity and people will just continue to speculate about its future.

When we stop discussing about Satoshi's identity, it also won't change anything. But we won't waste our energy and efforts anymore if we stop discussing about him. However, everyone has the right to discuss anything, including about Satoshi.

Quote from: avp2306 on March 04, 2024, 05:12:27 AM

Maybe best for you not to think deeply about his identity since you can't get any accurate answer -snip -

Yes, we only waste time and efforts. It is almost impossible to reveal the identity of Satoshi. Satoshi knows well how to hide his identity, an average people like us won't have the chance to know it.

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Quote from: ItsaWhale on March 03, 2024, 11:13:40 AM

What do u think would be the Impact of Crypto world if Satoshi Nakamoto is Alive and come out on Public ?
would we have a strong Bear market ?!

I don't see a reason why we would have a bear market if Satoshi comes back and starts moving his coins from any of the addresses you mentioned, and I don't see any reason for him to do that anyway, he can't risk his life by coming back and letting the world know that he is alive because he wouldn't be left alone if he does that. Who knows? He might be alive, watching everything, using Bitcoin not using these marked addresses.
I'm pretty sure that he would never reveal his identity or let the world know that he is alive even if he is because he knows it can become a life threat to him considering how many people, including governments, hate him.

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How do we know if a person who is antonymous is alive or not, all that we care now is the bitcoin he made and had left for us to use in ither to be completely free and decentralized from the government authority over our finances, i don't see any reason why i should be more concerned about Satoshi himself than the bitcoin he intended on us, what must always be alive is bitcoin and the bitcoin network.

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About last week I did a thorough research about satoshi, I came across his last post on the forum, the history of bitcoin and the forum also about their respective purposes.
I really loved to hear about his presence for he needs to be awarded for his invention. His invention is really a feat. Imagine all of us now using bitcoin, learning trading, investing in what the author might be alive or dead. That feeling of knowing him would have been wonderful.
Over the years bitcoin had created:
-Employment
-Wealth
-Investment
-Means of payment
.Income and lots more
It has mean different things to different people. Most of us are surviving to due to its practice and adoption. we are able to pay bills carry out different projects. We been able to raise funds for re-occurring and capital needs.
We all just need to respect the almighty founder.

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