Is Satoshi Nakamoto an A.I.? - page 2.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on March 21, 2017, 11:45:50 AM

I think that Satoshi is visionary man, genius!
He really started revolution because, for the first time in history, average or small man have chance to get rid from banks and financial institution and become free.
Such vision only man can create, not A.I.
After all, A.I. also someone have to create, isn't it?
Computers can just follow our orders but only we, human beings, are capable to create something new, out of box

Did you just assume Nakamoto's gender? *triggered* I'm more inclined to believe it was a group of people, no single human comes up with this

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If Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I., well then he/she/it must be from the future.
And if it actually right, then the one who we really should thinking about is the one who made this Artificial Intelligence.

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I think that Satoshi is visionary man, genius!
He really started revolution because, for the first time in history, average or small man have chance to get rid from banks and financial institution and become free.
Such vision only man can create, not A.I.
After all, A.I. also someone have to create, isn't it?
Computers can just follow our orders but only we, human beings, are capable to create something new, out of box

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A.I, the computer big bang. I don't think computer are complex enough in 2008 to be able to create a project like Bitcoin. Satoshi is more likely to be an Alien

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I am sure that bitcoin coding was created by an A.I because they don’t have the capability similar to a human brain. What I feel about Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who coded all the 31,000 lines and created bitcoin. Otherwise, it looks tough for a single human being, but not impossible.

However, I feel that we should not be wasting our time thinking who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Instead enjoy the fruit and let him live in peace.

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Quote from: neochiny on February 09, 2017, 07:09:47 AM

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Quote from: TechnoYogi on February 07, 2017, 05:13:07 AM

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

So according to you every complicated code longer that 31,000 lines of code is that advanced that humans cant grasp it?
First of all, lines of code is silly measurement, it literally doesn't prove anything, certainly isn't benchmark of awesomeness.
Windows 7 operating system is estimated to has 40 million lines of code, but Vista (older system) had more than 50 million lines of code.
So tell me which system is superior? The one with the more lines of code?

Normally the answer would be Windows Vista(50 Million lines of codes), but if the answer is
Windows 7(40 Million lines codes) does this mean that the qualities(or is it called in another name?)
of the codes on each operating system are different? Huh

I'm just curious about this!

Line of codes is for the quantity and not for the quality. The reason why Vista has more line of codes compared to Windows 7 is OPTIMIZATION. The developers of Windows optimized the later version (Windows 7) so that the operating system will function faster without wasting memory allocation and resources. Instead of going through 1, 2, and 3, why not go through 1 and 3 only. That's the logic there.

Example:
a = b + c
d = e * f
g = a/d

Then why not just g = (b+c)/(e*f) same thing right. So line of codes does not matter in identifying who is superior and who is inferior.

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Quote from: skorupi17 on March 16, 2017, 03:01:34 PM

Quote from: meliodas on March 16, 2017, 01:31:58 PM

And I think that no A.I could ever create this crypto currency.

Well, it is not impossible for an AI to create such crypto currency. This depends on how powerful an AI is. An example of this is Google's AI, based from the article I've read, which can invent it's own cryptography. So if an AI can do such, inventing a cryptocurrency, for an AI, is a possibility.

No, it's really not. Cryptography is not hard, it's just basic systems of ciphering and nearly any decent computer could do that, not to mention that Google is a multi-billion dollar company and Satoshi Nakamoto was obviously not.

A cryptocurrency is an invention. AIs cannot create complex thought systems like Bitcoin, and if they could there's no reason that someone would invent an AI with several years of work and hundreds of workers just to create something else. Satoshi was on this forum, satoshi spoke to us as a human would, and just as no other person on this forum is an AI because it makes no sense and is all but impossible, satoshi was not an AI.

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Quote from: meliodas on March 16, 2017, 01:31:58 PM

And I think that no A.I could ever create this crypto currency.

Well, it is not impossible for an AI to create such crypto currency. This depends on how powerful an AI is. An example of this is Google's AI, based from the article I've read, which can invent it's own cryptography. So if an AI can do such, inventing a cryptocurrency, for an AI, is a possibility.

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Quote from: TechnoYogi on February 07, 2017, 05:13:07 AM

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

If you are concerned about the complex 31,000 lines of complex codes, yes it will amaze you. However, doing that is not too hard for a human. I don't think that an AI will bother coding and invent a new form of currency just to help people in hasting money-related transactions. Satoshi Nakamoto is clearly a human being that is creative enough and intelligent enough in inventing Bitcoin.

The existence of the operating systems in our computers, in our smartphones, the algorithms used by different electronic devices, as well as the AI itself, all of them are made by human beings. So why can't Satoshi Nakamoto be, also, a human?

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Quote from: bitjoin on March 16, 2017, 01:26:39 PM

Quote from: TechnoYogi on February 07, 2017, 05:13:07 AM

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

I feel like other ground breaking revolutionary tools would have been invented by now if this was the case. We dont have much other society changing examples in the last 10 years other than 3d printing and crowd funding.

If he really is an AI (Artificial Intelligence) What do you think is Satoshi's Plan on why he created Bitcoin? Because on the word itself it says intelligence and I don't see anything revolutionary that Bitcoin did so far except for the part that it is a highly secured currency. But what is really the main purpose of Satoshi as an AI to create such currency? If you answer it clearly or you have a solid proof he is one than I will say that Satoshi can be an AI.

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I don't really think that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I,
And I think that no A.I could ever create this crypto currency.

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Quote from: TechnoYogi on February 07, 2017, 05:13:07 AM

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

I feel like other ground breaking revolutionary tools would have been invented by now if this was the case. We dont have much other society changing examples in the last 10 years other than 3d printing and crowd funding.

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Quote from: TechnoYogi on February 07, 2017, 05:13:07 AM

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

I dont agree that Satoshi would be an A.I.But i still admire about satoshi's talent that how he created such a revolutionary coin which has shaken the whole economic world.Im not an expert in programming language,but still could understand satoshi's talent to a little bit.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on March 16, 2017, 08:58:31 AM

How come OP that you come up with this thought or idea thinking that Satoshi Nakamoto is an Artificial Intelligence, an A.I could not be this flexible to make something like bitcoin, because there is a lot of debugging the codes or the program that has been used in bitcoin, and I am sure that an A.I could not do such thing, unless, it is on its program to do so.

But still, I don't believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I, he is a genius person which don't want attractions of people because of his inventions. If Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I, then there would be no people wondering or finding who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

Not even sure how this discussion got this far, Satoshi will never be an AI. He can never be an AI, because no AI is smart enough to create something like this. There are really too many factors how bitcoins got here and not really due to some AI controlling how it goes. Another thing is that I don't think there is an AI that can make something this complex. Even stupid siri can't even call my grandma.

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How come OP that you come up with this thought or idea thinking that Satoshi Nakamoto is an Artificial Intelligence, an A.I could not be this flexible to make something like bitcoin, because there is a lot of debugging the codes or the program that has been used in bitcoin, and I am sure that an A.I could not do such thing, unless, it is on its program to do so.

But still, I don't believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I, he is a genius person which don't want attractions of people because of his inventions. If Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I, then there would be no people wondering or finding who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

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It's clear that satoshi was not an AI, it was probably one a single person, I believe this is the case because a team would be too risky since someone would reveal each other's real names, he couldn't trust anybody so he started it all himself.

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No i dont think so that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I. Satoshi Nakamoto is just a pseudonym. The creator(s) of Bitcoin don't want to be identified and as brilliant as their technology works it seem very possible that he/they are clever enough to remain anonymous.

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How can an Artificial intelligence or A.I made this greatest invention on the internet? That is impossible. Satoshi Nakamoto is purely a person with above A.I brain or knowledge and he just use it very well to create this kind of opportunity that we are using right now. If Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I then the news will be wide spread and the team behind this bitcoin will confirm that.

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Satoshi nakamoto is not an AI and reading all the pdf file/whitepaper etc. it is obvious those aims and motives are being created by a human and speaking of AI its also being created by human. Correct me if im wrong but this my strong belief that Satoshi is a human and until now its still unknown the same on his invention.

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Quote from: Yanisumin on March 16, 2017, 05:03:19 AM

Many speculations is running on the internet when a codename Satoshi Nakamoto invented bitcoin. Artificial intelligence is a computer or code that has a consciousness, some tech sperts says that computer power is doubled every eighteen months. So let's say way back 2008? Artificial intelligence exists? I don't think so. Android is just improving that time and quantum computing by D wave is just started way back 2011.
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Let's say that it is an artificial intelligence but who invented that A.I.? There are so many holes and lack of proof in this one. We might have a shot if it was came from what they call 8th layer of the internet (Primarch system ) an anomaly in the internet that discovered way back 2000. Creepy.

It is very complicated way back in those years to really make an artificial intelligence of A.I. but the idea is there and in every movies back then was portraying some computer intellect just like in the terminator movies, maybe there are an application back then that was not really introduce up until now but having something like that was not necessarily for bitcoin to sprout and make a name for it self, but to tell that nakamoto is an A.I. is really absurd.

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