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May 13, 2023, 01:13:24 PM
#53
This is not facebook were people like their  own posts!

Of what  use is the merit system if you can give these to yourselves, imagine being a merit source and all you do is merit your own posts, then this system would lose its credibility. Besides the merit system was introduced as a system to fight the growing spam at the time and it did and also deterred spammers from ranking up to avoid future sig spans.
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May 13, 2023, 11:21:25 AM
#52
May sound silly but has anyone tried meriting themselves on a discussion they start. I noticed that the option to merit a post is still available on a post we make, I wanted to try it out, but I do not want to default, so I decided to come ask first.

Is it possible to merit yourself?

I think you can but it's a long process since you'll be using two accounts. But if you have only one account of course you can't merit yourself. If everyone are self meriting, how this forum will grow? no one will help other newbie since you can reply to other post with no sense or what we called shitpost and instantly gain merit. If there is a chance that some devs on this forum make this possible, I will not agree because that's unfair
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May 13, 2023, 07:12:01 AM
#51
Yes, you can merit yourself but you would need two accounts for it. A lot people do this on the platform and they get away with it. People own multiple accounts and once they get merited on one account, they send that merit to their other account. This is very unfair because it denies other people who actually deserve the merits.

While it is possible to merit with an alt account, doing so is not recommended.
If you look through the Reputation board, you'll notice that there are threads open against those who were caught in the act of self-meriting their own posts using their alt account.


I agree, however, there are many people who do not see this as a problem. Recall the famous liar naim027 and how he exchanged merits with his alternative account Dic3L0v3r.
Since the user cannot deserve himself, and it is not possible to do so, of course, opening a second account can easily solve this problem. Moreover, it will always be a moot point whether to leave him tags or not. I think this statement from the admin says very well that the exchange of merit is not a big problem. Cheesy

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.
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May 10, 2023, 03:27:13 PM
#50
May sound silly but has anyone tried meriting themselves on a discussion they start. I noticed that the option to merit a post is still available on a post we make, I wanted to try it out, but I do not want to default, so I decided to come ask first.

Is it possible to merit yourself?
I created a similar  topic last week and mine was borne out if serious curiosity  and no self meriting  isn't allowed in the forum and I think some few lines of coding could easing take this option  down and kill some tiny curiosity  in users mind.
It take amot of effort to grow an account and tye forum seems it doesn't have much  rules but at the long run users have created some rules and the moment you break anyone, there are possibilities  of ruining  your account  with a red tag which im sure jts one thing that wouldn't want anyone wanting to easily  try the self meriting option and I was shocked that on my previous  thread, I found a handful of persons who already tried out that feature but got some error note.

Below is the link to my previous topic about this and I think you should think of locking the thread if you already got the answers you needed.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62181188
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May 10, 2023, 01:37:07 PM
#49
Yes, you can merit yourself but you would need two accounts for it. A lot people do this on the platform and they get away with it. People own multiple accounts and once they get merited on one account, they send that merit to their other account. This is very unfair because it denies other people who actually deserve the merits.

While it is possible to merit with an alt account, doing so is not recommended.
If you look through the Reputation board, you'll notice that there are threads open against those who were caught in the act of self-meriting their own posts using their alt account.

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It would be very helpful if measures were taken to prevent self meriting as I just explained.

Suspicious account activity is constantly being investigated, and those found breaking rules that are frowned upon by forum members are constantly being exposed and punished, either with a negative tag or being banned.
legendary
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May 10, 2023, 11:48:41 AM
#48
Even if it was possible what's the fun behind it? The merit system was implemented because if someone likes your post he/she can send you and to restrict spammers from ranking up but if it was allowed then they would keep doing so this isn't allowed.

I don't think that you understood me correctly. I didn't say that meriting your own post from the same account if frowned upon (simply because its impissible to do that), but instead that he shouldn't merit his post from his alt account, which is frowned upon and will end up badly for him.
This is absolutely right and there are some members doing such thing just to rank up their alts also but it's clear that if post has something useful other members will also merit it so it's better not to indulge in these practices because you will eventually end up banning your account.
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May 10, 2023, 09:59:04 AM
#47
Is it possible to merit yourself?

No you can't, and it is also not advisable to merit your alts in case you have, all these will act as an abuse on the merit system if some particular users concentrates on meriting themselves, then the entire system will appear being corrupt and it may not serve the major purpose for the introduction of the merit system, additionally, the merit system is not moderated does mean we should abuse it for our own selfish interest, we know what's right from what is wrong right from our guilty conscience when trying to do any.
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May 10, 2023, 09:12:44 AM
#46
I think that it is better that someone else merits you because you can not be a judge over your own case.  If we are left to merit our selves, then most people will score themselves excellent, even when their performance is average. But we improve when others evaluate us without being  bias.

This is why the forum has made it impossible to merit yourself and of the community find out that you have abused that privilege by using your alts to merit yourself to numerous occasions then you set yourself up for some serious condemnation. Although theymos has said accounts shouldn't be ruined for mere issues like posting styles or meriting record still we have users that'll give you the negative feedback without hesitation for abusing the merit system. You can blame them though because merits are meant to be award by external bodies for your quality contributions to the forum and since merits earned are one of the criteria to be included in a campaigns, it's wrong to default.

We have enough merits flowing on the forum that if your posts are worth to be highlighted, they can't go unmerited but in a circumstance that they do go unnoticed due to meriters not visiting that particular boards or threads, you can apply for your posts to be reviewed on the merit giveaway threads available and those who find them worth meriting will do the needful. You don't have any excuse to try and merit yourself when the forum has provided every opportunity to make getting of merits not hard for those contributing quality to the forum.
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May 10, 2023, 07:31:59 AM
#45
May sound silly but has anyone tried meriting themselves on a discussion they start. I noticed that the option to merit a post is still available on a post we make, I wanted to try it out, but I do not want to default, so I decided to come ask first.

Is it possible to merit yourself?

Yes, you can merit yourself but you would need two accounts for it. A lot people do this on the platform and they get away with it.
Advising anyone to use have a alt account with the main purpose of using it for self meriting ones own account is a very wrong thing to do knowing full well it's against the forum's rules of the merit system. Any member caught up in the act with evidence, the consequence is always an ugly one.
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People own multiple accounts and once they get merited on one account, they send that merit to their other account. This is very unfair because it denies other people who actually deserve the merits.
In every community their would always be those with deviant behavior as part of a whole.  For such persons they should be reminded that nothing hides under the sun for ever.

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It would be very helpful if measures were taken to prevent self meriting as I just explained.
I strongly believe that there are  measures already in place  for such and if you should do some thorough check you will see some few cases.
sr. member
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May 10, 2023, 06:02:12 AM
#44
I think that it is better that someone else merits you because you can not be a judge over your own case.  If we are left to merit our selves, then most people will score themselves excellent, even when their performance is average. But we improve when others evaluate us without being  bias.

Personally I like being criticized when I'm not getting it right. It helps me to work harder to improve myself. And of course I feel great if I do something right and I'm 8 being appreciated.
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May 08, 2023, 03:17:18 PM
#43
If that was possible it would have been a big dent on the forum as most people wouldn't merit their ranks... The ranks are the obvious representation of people hard work over time.
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May 07, 2023, 10:26:33 PM
#42
May sound silly but has anyone tried meriting themselves on a discussion they start. I noticed that the option to merit a post is still available on a post we make, I wanted to try it out, but I do not want to default, so I decided to come ask first.

Is it possible to merit yourself?

In my opinion, Doing merit yourself is seen as an attempt to boost one's ego and can also have a negative impact on one's reputation and trust in one's. My view is that instead of focusing on self-benefit, let's strive to make quality, informative, interesting and valuable posts for the community.

By contributing meaningfully, we can gain acceptance and be valued in the community, which is a better way, a more valuable way. and sustainable way to build a reputation. So, Let's embrace the values of a merit-based system and work to build a supportive and collaborative community that rewards individuals based on contributions and achievements.
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May 07, 2023, 08:44:18 PM
#41
To be honest i also curious too but never try it before although if we can merit ourself there is point that we will run out of merit right 2 merit = 1 sMerit.

Although the best things to earn merit just made a good post and report it to other member like fillippone [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed -  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-share-your-best-poststhreads-with-fillippone-to-be-merit-assessed-5412657

or DdmrDdmr he like bot earned 500+ merit in the last 120Days according the bpip  Shocked crazy hahaha
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May 07, 2023, 02:52:25 PM
#40
Is it possible to merit yourself?
Appreciate yourself by correcting the location of deficiencies that need to be corrected, not by sending merit.
All answered send merit to yourself can not.

If you wander through these forums a lot, you'll come across one and two posts asking for the option to send merits to yourself.
In the meta thread there is the same topic that has been locked because the answer has been obtained.

That said, it's a good fishing effort.
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May 05, 2023, 05:25:13 PM
#39
Well technically, you can merit yourself if you have two (2) accounts that have merits to send on. But if you do not have any alternate accounts, then meriting yourself is impossible in any way.

I believe @OP is talking about an account to merit itself and not by other account owned by the same user.  So technically speaking, the answer will be always a no.

That's funny, because that's what I asked myself 5 years ago or so. In principle you can click on the merit tab and even try to merit yourself, the only thing I preferred to ask at the time rather than merit myself because it could have been seen badly by the community even if it was an experiment if it worked and I got to send a merit to myself..

If you are that curious and wanted to not be the subject of flame, then you can just create a thread on Meta explaining the topic you wanted to explore yourself before trying to check if self-merit is allowed by the forum system.  You can even publish the step by step procedure or make a video of it.  This way you can establish a proof that you are not maliciously intending to use a possible exploit but instead you are just exploring stuff for self-awareness. 



legendary
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May 05, 2023, 03:36:35 PM
#38
Typically now there's no way that you can make a loop with your merits and getting abuse with this, seems like you want to immediately rank up.
It's good it wasn't because, the only once that might have been issuing merits in the forum would have as well be merit sources.
That's because, should OP harbour the thought in a scenario where such was possible, you won't be expecting anyone to dish out merit to you @OP when you are about meriting yourself.
Besides, it would be a slap on the idea of meriting as, you can't be the accurate judge of your own post. Your posts are expected to make impact on others and you can't tell how much impact it has made on me if your the one doing the merit as OP.
You might be conscious on efforts put in but that too is better said by those reading.
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May 05, 2023, 08:57:46 AM
#37
May sound silly but has anyone tried meriting themselves on a discussion they start. I noticed that the option to merit a post is still available on a post we make, I wanted to try it out, but I do not want to default, so I decided to come ask first.

Is it possible to merit yourself?
Yeah....lmao
It actually sounds really silly you know what I'm saying? Are you just getting too used to the system already? Or rather too tired to rock-on that you're tryna think of ways to cut corners?? 😹jokes anyways..
It's not possible to merit your own self from the same account... You could merit yourself assuming you've got two accounts running, BUT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED AND YOU COULD POSSIBLY LOSE THE TWO ACCOUNTS IN A ROW... It's actually funny cus I thought of even more silly things than that.....and it didn't work

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May 04, 2023, 10:03:11 PM
#36
That's funny, because that's what I asked myself 5 years ago or so. In principle you can click on the merit tab and even try to merit yourself, the only thing I preferred to ask at the time rather than merit myself because it could have been seen badly by the community even if it was an experiment if it worked and I got to send a merit to myself..

@OP it is an obvious question that you yourself can answer.  You just need to look at your post and see if the option to merit yourself is allowed.  You already have merit and you could have try it yourself if meriting oneself is possible  Honestly, sometimes we need to work on our exploration than just posting question that can be answered by ourselves.



Yes, that is what happens. You can follow all the steps but if at the end you try to send the merit you get the error message. I hope this solves the OP's doubt.
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May 04, 2023, 06:47:59 PM
#35
May sound silly but has anyone tried meriting themselves on a discussion they start. I noticed that the option to merit a post is still available on a post we make, I wanted to try it out, but I do not want to default, so I decided to come ask first.

Is it possible to merit yourself?

Nope it is impossible to merit yourself.

The purpose of the implementation of the merit system is for forum users to strive creating/making meaningful threads and discussions that would warrant a merit from users. With this merit, this enables these users to rank-up their forum rank the more they receive merits. If the system was designed to be able to merit yourself, then this destroys the entire purpose on why it was implemented in the first place.

Yes, you can merit yourself but you would need two accounts for it. A lot people do this on the platform and they get away with it. People own multiple accounts and once they get merited on one account, they send that merit to their other account. This is very unfair because it denies other people who actually deserve the merits.

It would be very helpful if measures were taken to prevent self meriting as I just explained.

Well technically, you can merit yourself if you have two (2) accounts that have merits to send on. But if you do not have any alternate accounts, then meriting yourself is impossible in any way.
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May 04, 2023, 05:51:53 PM
#34
@OP it is an obvious question that you yourself can answer.  You just need to look at your post and see if the option to merit yourself is allowed.  You already have merit and you could have try it yourself if meriting oneself is possible  Honestly, sometimes we need to work on our exploration than just posting question that can be answered by ourselves.

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