Is the host draw in the ceremony match?

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 21, 2022, 10:52:33 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on November 17, 2022, 02:52:43 AM

So, what's your guess?.

Alot of persons, including myself expected Qatar to win the March yesterday simply because they are the host, and since as back as I can remember, South Africa is the only country that have lost in their opening match, many thought Qatar wouldnt want to join that category and would fight to win the game, but it's rather unfortunate that they ended up loosing 2:0 Ecuador.

I expect a draw because Qatar is the host and doesn't have experience in football, and so more sure when kick off Qatar use a scheme 5-3-2 but my guess is wrong because Ecuador is much more solid on each line, their attack is more focus and there is no more obstacle on a center that make more freely to piece Qatar defense.

the ceremony match has been completed, so I have to lock this thread, thanks for all post.

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Quote from: Sirait on November 21, 2022, 06:11:58 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 21, 2022, 01:00:44 PM

In fact, they were not as terrible as you write, but they were definitely weaker than Ecuador. Qatar has a good overall team movement, but they are very bad in the fight for the ball - they either lose or break the rules. With all this, they had several chances to score. In terms of tournament, I am sure that this championship is over for them, the most they can count on is a draw with Senegal, but given that Senegal will fight for second place, this is also unlikely.

In fact, if we look at the Qatar football rankings based on the FIFA rankings, we will see that the ranking difference is not much different between Qatar and Ecuador. Ecuador is ranked 44th while Qatar is ranked 50th so I am very surprised that Qatar lost 2-0 to Ecuador in the ceremony match. senegal is much stronger than qatar, qatar will definitely be ranked at the bottom of group A.

It's obvious that Senegal is more performing than the Qatar because the level of performance of Senegal today if they meet with Qatar i believe that the Senegal will win the match, because their performance can't be use to compare with the performance of the Qatar, so i will agree with you.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 21, 2022, 01:00:44 PM

In fact, they were not as terrible as you write, but they were definitely weaker than Ecuador. Qatar has a good overall team movement, but they are very bad in the fight for the ball - they either lose or break the rules. With all this, they had several chances to score. In terms of tournament, I am sure that this championship is over for them, the most they can count on is a draw with Senegal, but given that Senegal will fight for second place, this is also unlikely.

In fact, if we look at the Qatar football rankings based on the FIFA rankings, we will see that the ranking difference is not much different between Qatar and Ecuador. Ecuador is ranked 44th while Qatar is ranked 50th so I am very surprised that Qatar lost 2-0 to Ecuador in the ceremony match. senegal is much stronger than qatar, qatar will definitely be ranked at the bottom of group A.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 20, 2022, 03:33:34 PM

Qatar is not good at football which they know but they just want to get attention this year that was why they did everything to make sure the world cup was hosted in their country. I just didn't bet on Qatar because I know it will be a loss the game was interesting to me because Ecuador won as predicted and made my day.

Having to host the huge event is what will make their economy boost. It's just a plus if they win many games in the group stages but the main thing about their hosting is to make the attention to help their economy higher. As they lose the opening match, to those experts who have a lot of experience watching these events.
Do you think that Qatar will happen to have a chance to win against Senegal which is their next match by Friday?

The fact that Qatar got the opportunity to host the world cup is already a boost to their economy because people from all over the world will have the opportunity to experience the country and mostly do business with them and this will help the country to get more popularity and it will also bring an increase to their GDP.

Yes, and the money that they've spent to make it happen is surely a lot. There are other countries that have proposed to be the host and they're rejected and maybe some other time, the other bidders and countries will get to have the chance to host this big event.
With all of the tourists that have come just to watch the World Cup, I'm sure that they'll be able to at least get somehow a huge chunk from the investment that they've made for hosting this event and that's just part of it as a starter to boost their economy as it goes on.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on November 21, 2022, 11:10:26 AM

Quote from: livingfree on November 21, 2022, 10:33:04 AM

Thus, Ecuador has won which had some players accused of being bribed by the losing team which is the host team, Qatar.

I'm sure the bribery news is just a hoax, we can see from the seriousness of the Ecuador players yesterday against Qatar, even though in the first half there was a bit of tension in the first goal which ended offside, The Ecuador team knows and appreciates that they are playing against the host, but yesterday we all saw that Ecuador was not in a state of bribery, even though the news said that there were 8 Ecuadorian players involved, the facts spoke on the field Ecuador 2-0.

There are too many speculations and conspiracy theories but with this by Ecuador, I hope that they'll release a statement to clarify things that there's really no bribery that has happened.

If it will come from them, then that will close the case and will stop everyone from speculating and the issue was just made to discredit the host.

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Quote from: livingfree on November 21, 2022, 10:33:04 AM

We'll see where this development will go further or the issue will just die eventually.

No, this case is 'dead' there is no development, Qatar is providing the field and tournament at the 2022 world cup this time, not as the host of the players, 2-0 has been scored, the bribery case is not proven and closed.

In that case, it means that there's no need for them to have any statement then just to clarify things. I guess being silent is also a good idea that there's nothing for them to defend because there's nothing that has happened.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 20, 2022, 03:49:41 PM

Quote from: Tumanggor on November 20, 2022, 12:40:02 PM

the Qatar team played very badly at their own home, even Qatar only controlled 37% "ball possession", Ecuador will definitely win

Qatar without a doubt must be the worst team in this world cup, it was looking like the Qatari players had never played before or had never seen a ball before, I honestly cannot understand how a rich country like Qatar that had many years to if they were organized they couldn't hire a good coach and prepare their team better, with so much money they have they could have got a good coach who would have prepared their team years before the cup started and they wouldn't have to face the shame they went through today, it looks like these Guys from Qatar only care about the beauty of their city and tourism and the profits they're going to make with this world cup and they don't care about their team~

In fact, they were not as terrible as you write, but they were definitely weaker than Ecuador. Qatar has a good overall team movement, but they are very bad in the fight for the ball - they either lose or break the rules. With all this, they had several chances to score. In terms of tournament, I am sure that this championship is over for them, the most they can count on is a draw with Senegal, but given that Senegal will fight for second place, this is also unlikely.

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Quote from: livingfree on November 21, 2022, 10:33:04 AM

Thus, Ecuador has won which had some players accused of being bribed by the losing team which is the host team, Qatar.

I'm sure the bribery news is just a hoax, we can see from the seriousness of the Ecuador players yesterday against Qatar, even though in the first half there was a bit of tension in the first goal which ended offside, The Ecuador team knows and appreciates that they are playing against the host, but yesterday we all saw that Ecuador was not in a state of bribery, even though the news said that there were 8 Ecuadorian players involved, the facts spoke on the field Ecuador 2-0.

Quote from: livingfree on November 21, 2022, 10:33:04 AM

We'll see where this development will go further or the issue will just die eventually.

No, this case is 'dead' there is no development, Qatar is providing the field and tournament at the 2022 world cup this time, not as the host of the players, 2-0 has been scored, the bribery case is not proven and closed.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 17, 2022, 02:52:43 AM

So, what's your guess?.

Alot of persons, including myself expected Qatar to win the March yesterday simply because they are the host, and since as back as I can remember, South Africa is the only country that have lost in their opening match, many thought Qatar wouldnt want to join that category and would fight to win the game, but it's rather unfortunate that they ended up loosing 2:0 Ecuador.
But on the other hand, it great that the match turned out free and fair for both teams, atleast, the loss against Ecuador have cleared the air concerning the rumors that was been spread around that Qatar bribed eight( Cool

Ecuador players to allow them win the match.

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Quote from: erep on November 21, 2022, 10:01:35 AM

Even though Qatar is hosting the World Cup in this period but I don't believe there is bribery to favor the host because in the digitalization era there will be no opportunity to commit bribes because it is very easy for the public to know during the match or after, so the match proves that Qatar is playing fairly and no irregularities were found in the match based on my observations.

You don't say that. Even in any season, whether in digitalized era or not, bribery happens. But on this case, we haven't seen a strong evidence to prove that there really has a bribery that has happened.

Thus, Ecuador has won which had some players accused of being bribed by the losing team which is the host team, Qatar.

We'll see where this development will go further or the issue will just die eventually.

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 21, 2022, 04:41:44 AM

last night's victory against Qatar cleared up the confusion of bribery rumors circulating everywhere, but that's football and this big event the world cup has only been held for 4 years no team should betray their country just for money, I don't bet on this match because I'm worried about that issue and Qatar made a surprise but instead Ecuador won the game congrats to ecuador and Qatar should learn from yesterday's defeat maybe their confidence is not fully good because of yesterday's opening match, hope OP locks this thread too

Even though Qatar is hosting the World Cup in this period but I don't believe there is bribery to favor the host because in the digitalization era there will be no opportunity to commit bribes because it is very easy for the public to know during the match or after, so the match proves that Qatar is playing fairly and no irregularities were found in the match based on my observations. I agree with @Strongkored opinion, Ecuador should not be satisfied with the first half winning goal but they need to commit to playing tough for their next goal opportunity. I'm not a fan of either so I don't bet on the first match of the world cup.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 20, 2022, 11:53:50 PM

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I really wasnt surprised by Qatar's performance. What is to expect from a team without much football appearance, both international and domestic. It is going to take a lot of years and grassroot football development for them to be better. They have a second and third match to decided if they stay or leave.

Maybe when Ecuador's first goal was disallowed because offside, those who believed the news about bribery must have thought that it was proven and there was a surprise where the hosts won this first match, but everything went according to predictions and surprises like it was impossible for yesterday's match because their levels are different, it's just that after leading 2-0 Ecuador no longer played as insistently as the first half, Ecuador had to learn from Germany who humiliated Brazil with a landslide score even though it was the host.
@blue Snow My suggestion is to lock this thread, because the first match is over, unless you change the title to whether Qatar will score in this World Cup.

last night's victory against Qatar cleared up the confusion of bribery rumors circulating everywhere, but that's football and this big event the world cup has only been held for 4 years no team should betray their country just for money, I don't bet on this match because I'm worried about that issue and Qatar made a surprise but instead Ecuador won the game congrats to ecuador and Qatar should learn from yesterday's defeat maybe their confidence is not fully good because of yesterday's opening match, hope OP locks this thread too

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Quote from: Renampun on November 19, 2022, 09:25:07 AM

everyone has different predictions in predicting the final score that will occur in the opening match between Qatar vs Ecuador, my friends also predict that the final score will be 2-2 (a draw).
but I am different, I predict Ecuador will win narrowly in In this opening game, the possible score is 2-1 for Ecuador to win, the issue about Qatar bribing some Ecuador players to lose is going strong, if Qatar wins then it is very worrying but if Qatar loses it is very embarrassing for them.

Your friends predicted 2 goals to 2 because of the bribe? Or they think Qatar is that strong to draw? Ecuador is much more stronger and it is the country that won the first match with 2 goals and Qatar not having anything goal scored. The news about Qatar bribing eight Ecuador players was just a rumour, never mind it. World cup is not an underdog match that are easily manipulated.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on November 20, 2022, 05:45:37 PM

I really wasnt surprised by Qatar's performance. What is to expect from a team without much football appearance, both international and domestic. It is going to take a lot of years and grassroot football development for them to be better. They have a second and third match to decided if they stay or leave.

Maybe when Ecuador's first goal was disallowed because offside, those who believed the news about bribery must have thought that it was proven and there was a surprise where the hosts won this first match, but everything went according to predictions and surprises like it was impossible for yesterday's match because their levels are different, it's just that after leading 2-0 Ecuador no longer played as insistently as the first half, Ecuador had to learn from Germany who humiliated Brazil with a landslide score even though it was the host.
@blue Snow My suggestion is to lock this thread, because the first match is over, unless you change the title to whether Qatar will score in this World Cup.

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Well, the Qatar thing doesn't surprise me, I expected that Ecuador would have won with more advantage, for me these things have a lot of weight at the moment that Ecuador scored the first goal that they later invalidated, which was quite strange for me, because It is very difficult to see that out of place, the truth is that I did not understand it, it was millimetric, I know that things for arbitration are quite clear now, and they have quite advanced technology for this, of course it is not that I question, but things as they are , it is quite timely for Qatar that something like this has happened.

I put everything in the context that things are like more jusdtyas now? In any case, there is still a lot to show in the World Cup, it remains to be seen.

BBC angers Qatar World Cup fans as Beeb misses opening ceremony before Qatar vs Ecuador

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World Cup fans have been left fuming with the BBC after the opening ceremony for the tournament was not broadcast on TV prior to the opening match on Sunday evening. The glamorous ceremony took place at Al Bayt Stadium before hosts Qatar took on Ecuador, but UK viewers were denied the chance to watch the ceremony on TV in the build-up to the curtain raiser.

Source: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1699105/BBC-TV-coverage-World-Cup-fans-opening-ceremony-Qatar-vs-Ecuador

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I really wasnt surprised by Qatar's performance. What is to expect from a team without much football appearance, both international and domestic. It is going to take a lot of years and grassroot football development for them to be better. They have a second and third match to decided if they stay or leave.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 20, 2022, 03:49:41 PM

Quote from: Tumanggor on November 20, 2022, 12:40:02 PM

the Qatar team played very badly at their own home, even Qatar only controlled 37% "ball possession", Ecuador will definitely win

Qatar without a doubt must be the worst team in this world cup, it was looking like the Qatari players had never played before or had never seen a ball before, I honestly cannot understand how a rich country like Qatar that had many years to if they were organized they couldn't hire a good coach and prepare their team better, with so much money they have they could have got a good coach who would have prepared their team years before the cup started and they wouldn't have to face the shame they went through today, it looks like these Guys from Qatar only care about the beauty of their city and tourism and the profits they're going to make with this world cup and they don't care about their team

Quote from: Frankolala on November 20, 2022, 03:33:34 PM

I know Qatar will not win their opening match but I thought it can be possible for a draw but the game showed that Qatar might not even win any of their group stage matches and that might also go down in history too.

Qatar is not really good at football which they know this but they just want to get attention at this year that was why they did everything to make sure the world cup was hosted in their country. I just didn't bet on Qatar because I know it will be a lost the game was interesting to me because Ecuador won as predicted and made my day .

I also expected that Qatar would at least play well, but all I saw was a team so bad that it even irritated me a lot watching this game, and it was unacceptable to see how those from Qatar who had years to prepare and have a lot of money come to show this team disaster, they are worse than my country's team, definitely qatar will not win any other game left, netherlands and senegal are much better team than ecuador and i doubt qatar will be able to beat netherlands and senegal

With all the rumors surrounding about this match, Ecuador vs Qatar, Qatar bribing some players of Ecuador.
Still, they haven't performed well in the stadium. It means they really couldn't excel on this sports no matter what.
Getting great on this sports, would take a lot of years of practice and yes, good coach who knows what he's doing.
A lot are expecting something from Qatar team as they are the host country, but turned out, they are not ready for this sports.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 20, 2022, 03:33:34 PM

Qatar is not good at football which they know but they just want to get attention this year that was why they did everything to make sure the world cup was hosted in their country. I just didn't bet on Qatar because I know it will be a loss the game was interesting to me because Ecuador won as predicted and made my day.

Having to host the huge event is what will make their economy boost. It's just a plus if they win many games in the group stages but the main thing about their hosting is to make the attention to help their economy higher. As they lose the opening match, to those experts who have a lot of experience watching these events.
Do you think that Qatar will happen to have a chance to win against Senegal which is their next match by Friday?

The fact that Qatar got the opportunity to host the world cup is already a boost to their economy because people from all over the world will have the opportunity to experience the country and mostly do business with them and this will help the country to get more popularity and it will also bring an increase to their GDP. Watching Qatar play against Ecuador without getting one shoot-on-target shows a poor display and a very weak performance from the host country and it is an indication that they were not well prepared to face Ecuador today. I think they can't win any match in the group stage again because the Senegalese team will capitalize on their poor defending and lack of communication between their goalkeeper and defenders to defeat them and get all the three-point. If they can not defeat Ecuador and Senegal then I don't see them getting a goal against the strongest team in their group Netherlands.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 20, 2022, 03:33:34 PM

Qatar is not really good at football which they know this but they just want to get attention at this year that was why they did everything to make sure the world cup was hosted in their country. I just didn't bet on Qatar because I know it will be a lost the game was interesting to me because Ecuador won as predicted and made my day .

Having to host the huge event is what will make their economy boost. It's just a plus if they win many games in the group stages but the main thing about their hosting is to make the attention to help their economy higher. As they lose the opening match, to those experts who have a lot of experience watching these events.
Do you think that Qatar will happen to have a chance to win against Senegal which is their next match by Friday?

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Quote from: Tumanggor on November 20, 2022, 12:40:02 PM

the Qatar team played very badly at their own home, even Qatar only controlled 37% "ball possession", Ecuador will definitely win

Qatar without a doubt must be the worst team in this world cup, it was looking like the Qatari players had never played before or had never seen a ball before, I honestly cannot understand how a rich country like Qatar that had many years to if they were organized they couldn't hire a good coach and prepare their team better, with so much money they have they could have got a good coach who would have prepared their team years before the cup started and they wouldn't have to face the shame they went through today, it looks like these Guys from Qatar only care about the beauty of their city and tourism and the profits they're going to make with this world cup and they don't care about their team

Quote from: Frankolala on November 20, 2022, 03:33:34 PM

I know Qatar will not win their opening match but I thought it can be possible for a draw but the game showed that Qatar might not even win any of their group stage matches and that might also go down in history too.

Qatar is not really good at football which they know this but they just want to get attention at this year that was why they did everything to make sure the world cup was hosted in their country. I just didn't bet on Qatar because I know it will be a lost the game was interesting to me because Ecuador won as predicted and made my day .

I also expected that Qatar would at least play well, but all I saw was a team so bad that it even irritated me a lot watching this game, and it was unacceptable to see how those from Qatar who had years to prepare and have a lot of money come to show this team disaster, they are worse than my country's team, definitely qatar will not win any other game left, netherlands and senegal are much better team than ecuador and i doubt qatar will be able to beat netherlands and senegal

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I know Qatar will not win their opening match but I thought it can be possible for a draw but the game showed that Qatar might not even win any of their group stage matches and that might also go down in history too.

Qatar is not really good at football which they know this but they just want to get attention at this year that was why they did everything to make sure the world cup was hosted in their country. I just didn't bet on Qatar because I know it will be a lost the game was interesting to me because Ecuador won as predicted and made my day .

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