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Quote from: dimonstration on November 20, 2022, 11:45:47 AM

Quote from: Tumanggor on November 20, 2022, 11:40:02 AM

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Agreed, I really thought Qatar can have a slight advantage as a host country yet they can’t manage to give a good defense against Equador. They are showing a terribly performance on this opening ceremony.

I believe the only Qatar can have is a tie that is still very hard to do considering how poor both offense.

The match is over and it was Qatar's 2-0 loss to Ecuador, and the other news is Qatar is making new world history = Qatar became the first ever world cup host team to lose in the ceremony match

Qatar is a bad team, Qatar's chances of qualifying for the next round are very small

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Quote from: Tumanggor on November 20, 2022, 11:40:02 AM

a few minutes before the match started, I was hesitant to choose Ecuador but in the end I decided to choose Ecuador in the bet and it was the right decision because at this time Ecuador was leading 2-0

the Qatar team played very badly at their own home, even Qatar only controlled 37% "ball possession", Ecuador will definitely win

Agreed, I really thought Qatar can have a slight advantage as a host country yet they can’t manage to give a good defense against Equador. They are showing a terribly performance on this opening ceremony.

I believe the only Qatar can have is a tie that is still very hard to do considering how poor both offense.

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a few minutes before the match started, I was hesitant to choose Ecuador but in the end I decided to choose Ecuador in the bet and it was the right decision because at this time Ecuador was leading 2-0

the Qatar team played very badly at their own home, even Qatar only controlled 37% "ball possession", Ecuador will definitely win

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Quote from: uneng on November 19, 2022, 01:59:59 PM

I suggest you to not bet on this match, because there are accusations Qatar has bribed 8 ecuadorian players in 7,4$ Mil-Lion to lose the opening game. The accusation was made on Twitter by the regional director of the British Middle East Center for Studies and Research, who has more than 400,000 followers on the social media.

Currently, the tweet is unavailable, but you can find the news everywhere on google. For exame, here:

https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/

Of course some will say it's FUD, but better to be safe than sorry. If there are signals a match is fixed, it's advisable to avoid betting on its result.

I made a bet on Ecuador to win Grin

It seems to me that since bookmakers accept bets on this game, it will most likely be fair. If it were fixed, then the skew in the odds would be inadequate and, most likely, bookmakers would simply not accept bets on this game. And if the result of the game is doubtful, then I am sure the bookmakers will return all bets with odds of 1, so there is no risk.

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Quote from: uneng on November 19, 2022, 01:59:59 PM

I suggest you to not bet on this match, because there are accusations Qatar has bribed 8 ecuadorian players in 7,4$ Mil-Lion to lose the opening game. The accusation was made on Twitter by the regional director of the British Middle East Center for Studies and Research, who has more than 400,000 followers on the social media.

Currently, the tweet is unavailable, but you can find the news everywhere on google. For exame, here:

https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/

Of course some will say it's FUD, but better to be safe than sorry. If there are signals a match is fixed, it's advisable to avoid betting on its result.

that's why I canceled my bet on this match because Qatar is the host and will compete in the opening event also against Ecuador I think Qatar can surprise me so it's best to avoid this match even though I'm sure the result will be a draw but it's best to avoid betting on this match and bet in other matches that are more convincing

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I suggest you to not bet on this match, because there are accusations Qatar has bribed 8 ecuadorian players in 7,4$ Mil-Lion to lose the opening game. The accusation was made on Twitter by the regional director of the British Middle East Center for Studies and Research, who has more than 400,000 followers on the social media.

Currently, the tweet is unavailable, but you can find the news everywhere on google. For exame, here:

https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/

Of course some will say it's FUD, but better to be safe than sorry. If there are signals a match is fixed, it's advisable to avoid betting on its result.

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I think Ecuador has a better chance of winning and the odds show it. If I were to bet on this match, I would bet on Ecuador to win. Although it could be a draw, but I almost never bet on a draw.

I think the score in this match will be 2-1 or 3-1 in favor of Ecuador. The Qatar team does not play very well and if suddenly it will be a draw, then I will consider that the Ecuadorian team for some reason succumbed in this match.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 17, 2022, 01:52:43 AM

In the last 2 event world cup (2014 and 2018), the host (Russia and Brazil) was the winner in the opening ceremony match,
but in the world cup 2010 South Africa as the host draw the match.

When comparing the country with not much achievement in football, I think Qatar and South Africa have the same condition and situation. this is just my side calculation, we have to wait for the results after kick off, but There is no harm to tried it draw.

So, what's your guess?.

Comparing the first game to that of the opening games in past World Cup is just an illusionary comparison to me, this is football where the unexpected always happen.

Quote from: alegotardo on November 17, 2022, 08:00:41 PM

However.... there are rumors that there is bribery involved for Qatar to win this game, and I honestly don't doubt that if we think about the enormous amount of money that this country has.
This is said by Amjad Taha, a specialist in strategic political affairs, Regional Director of the British Center for Middle East Studies and Research. I believe he would not make that statement without having some certainty and proof of what he is saying.

Bribe or no bribe involved in all of this, I still think a national team should not be underrated against another in a case that it involves the host nation playing their opening game. Considering a country like Qatar, on how strict they’re with their rules, giving a bribe to win a match will be a slap on their face.

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Quote from: Wakate on November 17, 2022, 06:23:02 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on November 17, 2022, 01:52:43 AM

So, what's your guess?.

This two countries are not so strong when we talk about football matches but making a draw in this match has about 70% possibility because they are of the same category which not much achievements in football.
If I am asked to choose who is going to win from these two countries, I might be forced to go for draw or Qatar to win or draw because I am expecting the team to reach at least the next round before the leave the world cup matches. Since Qatar is the host, I know they can't leave the tournament at the beginning of the matches.

I have never seen Qatar as a footballing Nation, even as they host the world in their region. Their first game against Ecuador might be hard because Ecuador has had more tournament experience. Qatar has 3 games to get points and if they fail to do so, well, if other teams are lenient, they might be sanctioned for match fixing, mostly with the rumour I read about them asking for a goal ahead. I predict a win or draw against Qatar, but if they win, I will chant their name till they exit the tournament leaving the stronger teams to slug it out till finals.

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Quote from: Renampun on November 19, 2022, 08:25:07 AM

everyone has different predictions in predicting the final score that will occur in the opening match between Qatar vs Ecuador, my friends also predict that the final score will be 2-2 (a draw).
but I am different, I predict Ecuador will win narrowly in In this opening game, the possible score is 2-1 for Ecuador to win, the issue about Qatar bribing some Ecuador players to lose is going strong, if Qatar wins then it is very worrying but if Qatar loses it is very embarrassing for them.

I don't know about Qatar bribing the Ecuador team to have a victory on their game.
Football or soccer is for me a game of passion and love, I would think everyone going for this competition would be playing to give their very best to be crowned world champions.

No doubt that the Ecuador team is somehow better than the Qatar in terms of game play and players but Qatar is also a nation that can perform very well especially when they have the home advantage. So if Qatar is to win the match it will not be of surprise to anyone and certainly not based on the fact of bribing the Ecuador team

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Quote from: boltz on November 18, 2022, 04:33:03 AM

Opening game should be a win from Ecuador but there are rumors that Qatar tried to bribe Ecuador players to give Qatar 1-0 lead in first half.

You can read more here - https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/

If SOMEHOW , the score will be 1-0 in first half ...then why should I watch another game from this World Cup ? Seriously now.

Even if some games are fixed, it will be at the grassroots levels. I doubt that this is possible at the level of France - Germany and the like. And in fact, at the World Cup, we are not interested in the games Qatar - Ecuador, but just those where we do not allow the thought of fixed games.
But in general, all activities under the auspices of FIFA are rather negative, since this organization is saturated with corruption.

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everyone has different predictions in predicting the final score that will occur in the opening match between Qatar vs Ecuador, my friends also predict that the final score will be 2-2 (a draw).
but I am different, I predict Ecuador will win narrowly in In this opening game, the possible score is 2-1 for Ecuador to win, the issue about Qatar bribing some Ecuador players to lose is going strong, if Qatar wins then it is very worrying but if Qatar loses it is very embarrassing for them.

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Quote from: BobK71 on November 18, 2022, 05:40:39 AM

In the opening match, hosts Qatar will play against Ecuador. But there is great confusion about who will win this match? Due to the promotion match, Qatar will be supported by many even though they are relatively weak compared to Ecuador. Many people think that there is a possibility of a draw in the match. But overall I think Ecuador has more chances to win. I don't want to be emotional as Qatar hosting the World Cup.

and also we see there are rumors of Ecuador players being bribed by Qatar, but apart from that news I think the game will also be a draw because Qatar also doesn't want as the host to lose in the opening event of the world cup later, I choose not to bet on this match preferring other matches that may be safer

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 19, 2022, 02:17:15 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on November 18, 2022, 07:02:19 PM

Quote from: boltz on November 18, 2022, 04:33:03 AM

If SOMEHOW , the score will be 1-0 in first half ...then why should I watch another game from this World Cup ? Seriously now.

I just heard that rumors, $7,4 Million dollar is huge money for only 8 Ecuador players. That thin score difference has the plan to trick officials to do not finding out if the score was set up. but this is still a rumor, not proven true same as rumors they bribe official Fifa to make them host the world cup 2022. But, This looks interesting situation if that exact score going to be true, the bettor who follows that issue will get a huge profit.

Anything related to the world cup in Qatar, always has a negative perspective. starting from bribery cases to host the world cup, beer ban, and many others. and now, new rumors have surfaced of Qatar trying to bribe Ecuardor players. I can't stop thinking, is this a campaign.

To be honest, I don't like to involve football and politics, I'm not interested in that. but why are they bribing Ecuador, is it only because the reason is "PRIDE". and only to win in the opening game of this championship. while in the end they will be overthrown by other big teams like the Netherlands and Senegal.

I'm not pro Qatar, it's just that it's too forced to believe all the rumors that have been spreading so far. if that's true, why doesn't FIFA act on it ASAP. this confused us. even though if we refer to the available statistics, Qatar vs Ecuador is quite even.

Whether we like it or not, the World Cup is always a ground for political agenda. Of course, we have doubts if the accusation is true especially since there is no evidence presented. I wonder what happens to the accuser if he is totally wrong? Taha even concluded a fixed score of 1-0 in favor of Qatar. This kind of accusation would've been ignored easily but knowing how Qatar rigged the previous bidding in order to host this event, this may be true. $7.4 million is dust money for Qatar anyways. And although Qatar expects not to qualify in the playoffs, winning a game is very important for them as a host especially when it is the opening game of the event. And Qatar also wants to show the world that they are better than Saudi Arabia.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 18, 2022, 07:02:19 PM

Quote from: boltz on November 18, 2022, 04:33:03 AM

If SOMEHOW , the score will be 1-0 in first half ...then why should I watch another game from this World Cup ? Seriously now.

I just heard that rumors, $7,4 Million dollar is huge money for only 8 Ecuador players. That thin score difference has the plan to trick officials to do not finding out if the score was set up. but this is still a rumor, not proven true same as rumors they bribe official Fifa to make them host the world cup 2022. But, This looks interesting situation if that exact score going to be true, the bettor who follows that issue will get a huge profit.

Anything related to the world cup in Qatar, always has a negative perspective. starting from bribery cases to host the world cup, beer ban, and many others. and now, new rumors have surfaced of Qatar trying to bribe Ecuardor players. I can't stop thinking, is this a campaign.

To be honest, I don't like to involve football and politics, I'm not interested in that. but why are they bribing Ecuador, is it only because the reason is "PRIDE". and only to win in the opening game of this championship. while in the end they will be overthrown by other big teams like the Netherlands and Senegal.

I'm not pro Qatar, it's just that it's too forced to believe all the rumors that have been spreading so far. if that's true, why doesn't FIFA act on it ASAP. this confused us. even though if we refer to the available statistics, Qatar vs Ecuador is quite even.

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Quote from: boltz on November 18, 2022, 04:33:03 AM

If SOMEHOW , the score will be 1-0 in first half ...then why should I watch another game from this World Cup ? Seriously now.

I just heard that rumors, $7,4 Million dollar is huge money for only 8 Ecuador players. That thin score difference has the plan to trick officials to do not finding out if the score was set up. but this is still a rumor, not proven true same as rumors they bribe official Fifa to make them host the world cup 2022. But, This looks interesting situation if that exact score going to be true, the bettor who follows that issue will get a huge profit.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on November 17, 2022, 02:01:11 PM

We already realize the level of corruption there will be for this world cup, and i think qatar will pay for the win on this match. The world cup is a big party, and if Qatar lose the first match that wouldn't be nice for the place, that's why they must win it.

Is just my point of view, maybe i'm wrong, as you say, we will see the result once the games ends.

By the way, i can't wait for the opening event, for sure it will be nuts.

If they lose in the first match then what's the matter of that? Being a host country does not always mean that they will win the first match or any other match during the event but losing is always part of the game and it does not mean that we didn't try our best though our performance can always be seen and judge.

It's just there are teams that excel's a little bit better than us. We shall not worry because our own country will still be proud of us and even the whole world but not if they found out that there are bribery or corruption that happen only for us to secure the win. That is something that is unacceptable for every people who are in their right minds.

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In the opening match, hosts Qatar will play against Ecuador. But there is great confusion about who will win this match? Due to the promotion match, Qatar will be supported by many even though they are relatively weak compared to Ecuador. Many people think that there is a possibility of a draw in the match. But overall I think Ecuador has more chances to win. I don't want to be emotional as Qatar hosting the World Cup.

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Opening game should be a win from Ecuador but there are rumors that Qatar tried to bribe Ecuador players to give Qatar 1-0 lead in first half.

You can read more here - https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/

If SOMEHOW , the score will be 1-0 in first half ...then why should I watch another game from this World Cup ? Seriously now.

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Quote from: KennyR on November 17, 2022, 06:32:20 PM

Host always have the higher chance of winning the match. Ecuador is predicted to be the winner based on the performance. For me it is Qatar to win the match and the win could make the tournament even more interesting as the locals will have expectation over the upcoming matches. Being the host it'll give their best than the opponent and the same could bring win to Qatar. No popular faces, yet this is strong with the Asia Cup win against Japan. Even though it happened years back, it is still remembered as there is big break after on due to pandemic.

Can you substantiate such a statement with something? Do you think that the hosts grow a third leg or the referee allows them to play with their hands? In VAR times, the "favor" of judges matters less. Most likely you are relying on historical statistics, but earlier this happened (stable victories of the hosts of the tournament in the group stage) due to the fact that the hosts were strong teams and they received at least two weak teams as opponents. Now the situation is different - Qatar is an outsider in the group.

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