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sr. member
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June 30, 2019, 01:13:20 PM
#27
If you go deep enough, you'd find dinosaurs living peacefully side by side with Atlantians who had to escape the dropping sea levels in the past. This is some good things that the reptilians are keeping away from us. They don't want humanity to progress and crash their crib.
legendary
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June 30, 2019, 11:04:06 AM
#26
Now all we got to do is make it warm and...



Who knows what will come out of it.

Fate of mankind: dreamed of becoming dragon riders and became food for parasitic alien life forms.
legendary
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June 30, 2019, 10:45:18 AM
#25
I'm not completely dismissing any theories, but thinking that the Moon is full of chambers where aliens live and conduct experiments is to me equal to thinking that there are devils bathing in tar somewhere beneath our feet. I doubt it's even partially hollow. It's most likely porous and may be full of caves and tunnels, but it isn't empty like an egg shell. Forms like that are very rare in nature.

Unless it is an egg shell. And that'd be a pretty big dragon...
legendary
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June 30, 2019, 10:13:06 AM
#24
I'm not completely dismissing any theories, but thinking that the Moon is full of chambers where aliens live and conduct experiments is to me equal to thinking that there are devils bathing in tar somewhere beneath our feet. I doubt it's even partially hollow. It's most likely porous and may be full of caves and tunnels, but it isn't empty like an egg shell. Forms like that are very rare in nature.
legendary
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June 30, 2019, 09:08:07 AM
#23
If a person believes the Bible creation account, it takes a while to incorporate standard universe thinking into it. A couple thoughts about this.

The Bible shows that the universe was created about 6,000 years ago. The Septuagint and the pre-current-Bible "concordance" written by Josephus (34-101 A.D.) shows that the universe is about 7,500 years old. These writings are relevant for at least two basic reasons:

1. All of our extrapolations backward in time are flawed, because today's universe might exist as the result of multitudes of past things that we haven't taken into account in our extrapolations;

2. If God is real, but simply different in His way of thinking and His mindset than Mankind, and if the writings of Josephus are rather correct, there is currently no way for us to detect the way time and the laws of physics acted when they were being formed, during the 6 days of creation, about 7,500 years ago (If Jopsephus and the Septuagint are correct).

In other words, we really have no way of knowing what happened in the past other than writings of the people of the past.

How far back can we be reasonably accurate scientifically? Maybe very accurate 1,000 years back. Maybe back as far as dated pottery, linguistics, and mitochondria dating reveal to us... say, 5,000 to 10,000 years. Scientific dating beyond this is inaccurate, because there is no way to tell how wild the universe was back then, and there is no way to determine the many different universe operations that might produce a universe like ours.

For example, there are those scientists/astronomers who have determined that both Mars and Venus passed very near the earth in the past, within the last 10,000 years or so (maybe within the last 5,000). If this happened, our whole understanding of craters on the moon would have to change.

We are simply hoping that we are right in the way we are thinking. We are simply using our universe dating system as a form of scientific stability so that we have some kind of groundwork to base things on. But we don't really scientifically know beyond 5,000 years back, what happened in the universe.

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legendary
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June 30, 2019, 07:38:54 AM
#22
Yes there is some variation with the deepest crater that has a mountain inside if it. But overall the size and diameter of the crater varies much more than the depth.
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You may be thinking of old craters, some of which are pretty much buried. This happens as asteroids strike the moon, each raises a cloud of vaporized surface material. That falls back down. Over a billion years that happens repeatedly, and this buries old craters, so only the Ridgeline around the circumference is left.

TI, AL, FE are commonly found on the surface in the dirt as the oxides.

There are no "refined metals" on the Moon.
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June 29, 2019, 09:47:59 PM
#21
Yes there is some variation with the deepest crater that has a mountain inside if it. But overall the size and diameter of the crater varies much more than the depth.

The moon is in the perfect place and perfect size to facilitate the abundance of life is very interesting.  Without the moon, we would not have our stable seasons and climates and tides would be wildly fluctuating and the earth axis would wobble more.

And don't forget about the moon being much older than the earth. So who got here first? If a chunk from the earth got blasted into the atmosphere from  a meterorite smashing into it and it sent up cloud of debris that orbited around  until it coalesced into the present moon, then why is the moon so much older, and has 10% titanium as opposed to earths 2%, if I recall correctly. And the proceeded metals..

While it's not science its interesting to hear about the ancient African myth of the 2 brothers with "scales" that brought the moon here, which caused the dense mists around the earth condense and fall to the earth as rain, there by making the earth more hospitable for lifeforms Sounds like the great flood.

I don't know but it makes you think. There's more unknown than known.
legendary
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June 29, 2019, 08:08:18 AM
#20
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It's large and light, being 1/4 the size of the earth but only 1.2% of the eatha mass and the volume is only 2% of the earth.
Nasa did say it had a similar composition to the earth but "significantly less dense." But  also the astronauts could not penetrate the surface with drills.

Another interesting anomaly is that the crater depths are all the same..whether they are large craters or small, the depth is uniform and relatively shallow.
So a lot to explore about that.

https://www.gaia.com/article/the-hollow-moon-theory-is-the-moon-an-artificial-satellite

the first hand account of the astronaut who was actually there is fascinating.

https://history.nasa.gov/SP-350/ch-12-3.html

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Of course the crater depths are not the same. Some craters are > 100 miles across, others are a few feet. Then there are craters from micrometeorites, which can only be seen with a microscope.

The particles in the dirt are not rounded by millions of years of weather like on earth, and there sharp edges cause them to pack tightly. This is why drilling down was difficult.

The size, weight and density of the Moon follow from it's elemental composition.
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June 28, 2019, 11:28:04 PM
#19
Maybe the earth is hollow. After all, moon mass gives the earth two rotational centers. One of them is the standard 24-hr daily rotational center. The other is the barycentre between the earth and the moon.

The barycentre is said to be about 1,100 miles below the earth's surface. Combined with the daily-center, during the formation of the earth, if the moon were already present, it might have kept earth material away from earth's center. There might be an actual "room" down in the center of the earth... probably not very big, but self sustaining because of certain geological forces.

After all, the suggested present structure of the earth is not factually known to be the way the earth really exists inside.

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True, there is a lot to explore right here and a lot of unknowns.
And there are some very interesting questions on that and also the moon.
Scientist are baffled by the moon and have come up with several theories as to how it got there. And this is one of them. This was not crazy persons or lunatic group. It was 2 scientists.
Is the moon much older than the Earth? Apparently it is. So that's a puzzle.
How to explain there processed metals, as brass, mica and titanium, and radio active material?

Also the moon is unusually large in proportion to other planets in our solar system.

It's large and light, being 1/4 the size of the earth but only 1.2% of the eatha mass and the volume is only 2% of the earth.
Nasa did say it had a similar composition to the earth but "significantly less dense." But  also the astronauts could not penetrate the surface with drills.

Another interesting anomaly is that the crater depths are all the same..whether they are large craters or small, the depth is uniform and relatively shallow.
So a lot to explore about that.

https://www.gaia.com/article/the-hollow-moon-theory-is-the-moon-an-artificial-satellite

the first hand account of the astronaut who was actually there is fascinating.

https://history.nasa.gov/SP-350/ch-12-3.html

It's natural to have a knee jerk resistance to anything that might shake up one's idea of the world. But an open mind goes a long way towards making progress in any area.
legendary
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June 28, 2019, 06:59:09 PM
#18
The moon is hollow, but not empty, as it is filled with hot nacho cheese... Mmm...


This is not true! The Moon is hollow, and that's a fact. Because after Hitler fled with his remaining loyal troops in their flying nazi saucers to the Dark Side of the Moon, they started hollowing it out. This is true because youtube has a link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeIu1FiTTyI
legendary
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June 28, 2019, 11:41:42 AM
#17
After studying the bell-ringing aspect of the moon, it was determined that there were simply large caverns in the moon. It's not that we don't have sensitive enough seismographs. Rather, it's not known for a fact how to best interpret the readings.

The moon is how wide? If it is hollow rather than honeycombed, it just might take penetrating to the hollow part to figure this out for sure. But we gotta get there first. Note that multitudes of people from the '50s and '60s who were hoping to be on the moon in a decade back then, are long dead and gone. Is our moon focus the best idea?

We haven't even gone very deep on the earth. Is the earth hollow?

Cool

"Ringing like a bell" does not imply hollow. Not sure where that inference came from.

Acoustic transmission in underground strata is well understood and is used for many purposes in geology and industry.

We are talking about many miles through different materials that are unknown. For example, science was surprised to find loads of water deep down under parts of the surface of the earth. Geological soundings should have made them aware of this water long before it was found. Seems to me that there is a lot to learn about how sound works through various materials at great distances.

Cool
legendary
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June 28, 2019, 11:24:24 AM
#16
After studying the bell-ringing aspect of the moon, it was determined that there were simply large caverns in the moon. It's not that we don't have sensitive enough seismographs. Rather, it's not known for a fact how to best interpret the readings.

The moon is how wide? If it is hollow rather than honeycombed, it just might take penetrating to the hollow part to figure this out for sure. But we gotta get there first. Note that multitudes of people from the '50s and '60s who were hoping to be on the moon in a decade back then, are long dead and gone. Is our moon focus the best idea?

We haven't even gone very deep on the earth. Is the earth hollow?

Cool

"Ringing like a bell" does not imply hollow. Not sure where that inference came from.

Acoustic transmission in underground strata is well understood and is used for many purposes in geology and industry.
legendary
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June 28, 2019, 11:20:01 AM
#15
After studying the bell-ringing aspect of the moon, it was determined that there were simply large caverns in the moon. It's not that we don't have sensitive enough seismographs. Rather, it's not known for a fact how to best interpret the readings.

The moon is how wide? If it is hollow rather than honeycombed, it just might take penetrating to the hollow part to figure this out for sure. But we gotta get there first. Note that multitudes of people from the '50s and '60s who were hoping to be on the moon in a decade back then, are long dead and gone. Is our moon focus the best idea?

We haven't even gone very deep on the earth. Is the earth hollow?

Cool
newbie
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June 28, 2019, 10:48:07 AM
#14


The Moon rang like a bell
Between 1972 and 1977, seismometers installed on the Moon by the Apollo missions recorded moonquakes. The Moon was described as "ringing like a bell" during some of those quakes, specifically the shallow ones.[16] This phrase was brought to popular attention in March 1970,[1] in an article in Popular Science.[17] When Apollo 12 deliberately crashed the Ascent Stage of its Lunar Module onto the Moon's surface, it was claimed that the Moon rang like a bell for an hour, leading to arguments that it must be hollow like a bell.[1] Lunar seismology experiments since then have shown that the lunar body has shallow moonquakes that act differently from quakes on Earth, due to differences in texture, type and density of the planetary strata, but there is no evidence of any large empty space inside the body.
sr. member
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June 27, 2019, 11:34:35 PM
#13
Makes me wonder why some of you guys don't actually think that the moon is actually made of cheese.
legendary
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June 27, 2019, 10:03:23 PM
#12
It is not hollow. You can already measure the moon's weight by it's orbit and how it affects the planet.
It's a bit more than that, they claim that the shell around the hollow core is corresponding heavier...
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June 27, 2019, 06:35:48 PM
#11
It is not hollow. You can already measure the moon's weight by it's orbit and how it affects the planet.
legendary
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June 27, 2019, 04:47:14 PM
#10
The moon is hollow, but not empty, as it is filled with hot nacho cheese... Mmm...


How can it be hollow if the so-called hollow is fill with something?... in this case, hot nacho cheese?

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legendary
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June 27, 2019, 04:23:28 AM
#9
legendary
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June 25, 2019, 06:16:55 PM
#8
..... the moon is much more Ancient than the earth and that its surface was composed of metals and elements that do not occur naturally on the earth such as brass, mica, and radioactive elements.

Also, mentioned that the craters on the moon are shallow and all about the same depth suggesting a tough outer surface.

Our own astronauts tried to drill into the surface and the craters and could not penetrate the surface.....

In the last decade, our satellites have used sensors to determine the elements on the lunar surface, the magnetism and gravitational changes, the temperatures, many other things.

These satellites are put into lunar polar orbits, so the Moon rotates below them, and over the course of a month they will gather data on the entire lunar surface.

That would mean those claims of a hollow moon with such a group of surface elements was wrong.
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