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Quote from: beerlover on December 27, 2016, 04:38:37 PM

Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

Actually you can modify martingale according to your style, for example when I bet with dice games I usually set my multiplier to 1.66 and 3x on loss and this way I feel much more comfortable and less risks, while if you technically see the risk is same and make no mistake I always loose too lol

That's odd, and that's why I don't believe in any type of strategies in gambling anymore. Even though you are going to modify martingale strategy and you are going to make your own one still the risk is not reducing. Because you still need mostly luck for every time that you are going to gamble, so I don't rely with those strategies.

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Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

There is modified martiangle but i don't think that can help you to win if you're wondering how its work then you need to figure it out by your own make your own strategies by doing random bets and analyzing the gambling it self. But if i were you don't use martiangle

Yup...everyday people try to modify this martingale system to minimize their lost but I am not sure if one of them already found the best one. For me, if we keep using this system for a longer time, we will end in a very bad result(lost much and cant cover it due to limited balance or max profit feature).

You are right because the more you wager the more you are exposed to the house edge and hence more would be the loss, at least that's what maths says. So I also prefer some less bets like if I have 0.1 bankroll then I bet on 75% 0.005 and if loss I make 4x , basically what I mean to say is don't start with dust bets else you would always end up loosing.

It's not entirely true and I'm sure it's just a fantasy of you, as I am every time gambling always do bet more and it does not give a bad effect for me though after the game I don't benefit. But for sure you said was true, so to be able to do gambling then you should be able to master yourself from the possibility of being greed, for the key to be able to think clearly and use a good strategy is there in us that is by countering greed

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Quote from: Kotone on December 26, 2016, 10:03:05 AM

Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

There is modified martiangle but i don't think that can help you to win if you're wondering how its work then you need to figure it out by your own make your own strategies by doing random bets and analyzing the gambling it self. But if i were you don't use martiangle

Yup...everyday people try to modify this martingale system to minimize their lost but I am not sure if one of them already found the best one. For me, if we keep using this system for a longer time, we will end in a very bad result(lost much and cant cover it due to limited balance or max profit feature).

You are right because the more you wager the more you are exposed to the house edge and hence more would be the loss, at least that's what maths says. So I also prefer some less bets like if I have 0.1 bankroll then I bet on 75% 0.005 and if loss I make 4x , basically what I mean to say is don't start with dust bets else you would always end up loosing.

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Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

Actually you can modify martingale according to your style, for example when I bet with dice games I usually set my multiplier to 1.66 and 3x on loss and this way I feel much more comfortable and less risks, while if you technically see the risk is same and make no mistake I always loose too lol

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Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

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Quote from: Kotone on December 26, 2016, 10:03:05 AM

Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

There is modified martiangle but i don't think that can help you to win if you're wondering how its work then you need to figure it out by your own make your own strategies by doing random bets and analyzing the gambling it self. But if i were you don't use martiangle

I have tried like more than 100 strategies in my gambling and I quite a lot agree with you since I have always given loss only even when I was betting at 98% win chances.

So, I also suggest while you can try as many strategies you want but actually none works. Each and every strategy has equal risks, just some work slowly and hence you feel winning while some are super quick and hence you loose lightening fast.

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Quote from: pooya87 on December 27, 2016, 01:52:42 AM

no amount of modification can change anything about martingale strategy for you. it is a bad strategy. and the only modification that you can do to guarantee your winning not 100% but guarantee it like 80% is to start from 1 satoshi bets and have at least 20BTC in your bankroll.

Everything will end up losing martinfail already proven that to most of us but in a short run some gamblers especially with the game that base with luck still using this strategy and whatever modification we did we are only risking our money and we always needed to be careful with our bankroll.

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Quote from: J Gambler on December 22, 2016, 11:50:32 AM

Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

I think there's no modified martiangle that you can use to win in gambling website you need to create your own strategies and then play hard if you're willing to win big prizes from that gambling website enjoying the game if you wonder those video that uploaded on youtube don't believe it you always fool people.

But he never asked for a always winning strategy mate, I think the best modified strategy is to bet on 90% win chance and just increase the bet by 11 times on loose. And added to this if you have pre-rolls options available then start with pre-rolls and once 2 losses are already there then start the main betting, this way you would be much more safe and may end up winning.

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no amount of modification can change anything about martingale strategy for you. it is a bad strategy. and the only modification that you can do to guarantee your winning not 100% but guarantee it like 80% is to start from 1 satoshi bets and have at least 20BTC in your bankroll.

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I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

Actually there are only stretagy to gamble with Bitcoin in casino is to increment in your bet by ×2 if you loss your bet .
Secondly take eye on the Profit % . Because there is a factor of house edge which gives us limit to earn Bitcoin at that gambling site . If you will cross house edge of site then you will loss every bet .

Hilarious to see this dude here trying to come up with something that seems like its a fact whereas he doesn't have a clue what House edge even means.

@MC , martingale(and any modified versions of it) is(/are) the worst ways to throw your money down the dump(which is not saying much as all strats will eventually lead to that result). There are a few "safe" strategies, which allow you to get over with a tiny profit even with a huge loss streak but don't aim for making much of a profit(in the short term that is) with it.

Yup...mexxer-2 beat me to this one. Don't listen to this guy claiming to understand the dynamics of the Martingale system....I think he's confusing house edge with the sites Kelly criterion limits or something. Intuitively, the Martingale system and its variations might seem like a profitable strategy....but they are nothing but trouble because they rely upon long term investments which inevitably produce the variance which leads to extreme loss. There are techniques that can be utilized in some instances to optimize a return on investment, but they should only be practiced by those who're mathematically competent.

"mathematically competent" people know that -ev bets are bad, so there is no technique to optimize a return on investment on a dice site besides being the casino.

Very true....When I say "optimize," I mean getting the very best value for a specific wagering progression...."optimizing" does not mean a guaranteed winning strategy in this context, but a strategy that offers the best risk/reward ratio possible. If I were to play a dice site (I don't generally play -EV games), I would start by analyzing the sites Kelly Criteria, then I would manage my bankroll in such a way that optimizes my position. You'd be surprised at the value you can find sometimes....

You could really find some value when you are trying to make some optimization since its already part of human nature that we could able to observe some ways when we are playing.Bankroll management is a good move since you will know on how you gonna utilize it and you will create a particular strategy on how to sustain it for more longer runs on playing.

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Quote from: Phildo on December 26, 2016, 11:40:47 PM

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I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

Actually there are only stretagy to gamble with Bitcoin in casino is to increment in your bet by ×2 if you loss your bet .
Secondly take eye on the Profit % . Because there is a factor of house edge which gives us limit to earn Bitcoin at that gambling site . If you will cross house edge of site then you will loss every bet .

Hilarious to see this dude here trying to come up with something that seems like its a fact whereas he doesn't have a clue what House edge even means.

@MC , martingale(and any modified versions of it) is(/are) the worst ways to throw your money down the dump(which is not saying much as all strats will eventually lead to that result). There are a few "safe" strategies, which allow you to get over with a tiny profit even with a huge loss streak but don't aim for making much of a profit(in the short term that is) with it.

Yup...mexxer-2 beat me to this one. Don't listen to this guy claiming to understand the dynamics of the Martingale system....I think he's confusing house edge with the sites Kelly criterion limits or something. Intuitively, the Martingale system and its variations might seem like a profitable strategy....but they are nothing but trouble because they rely upon long term investments which inevitably produce the variance which leads to extreme loss. There are techniques that can be utilized in some instances to optimize a return on investment, but they should only be practiced by those who're mathematically competent.

"mathematically competent" people know that -ev bets are bad, so there is no technique to optimize a return on investment on a dice site besides being the casino.

Very true....When I say "optimize," I mean getting the very best value for a specific wagering progression...."optimizing" does not mean a guaranteed winning strategy in this context, but a strategy that offers the best risk/reward ratio possible. If I were to play a dice site (I don't generally play -EV games), I would start by analyzing the sites Kelly Criteria, then I would manage my bankroll in such a way that optimizes my position. You'd be surprised at the value you can find sometimes....

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I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

There is modified martiangle but i don't think that can help you to win if you're wondering how its work then you need to figure it out by your own make your own strategies by doing random bets and analyzing the gambling it self. But if i were you don't use martiangle

Yup...everyday people try to modify this martingale system to minimize their lost but I am not sure if one of them already found the best one. For me, if we keep using this system for a longer time, we will end in a very bad result(lost much and cant cover it due to limited balance or max profit feature).

No matter how many times you developed or modify the martingale system it wouldnt still work in longer runs just like what happen on most methods out there.Martingale or reversed martingale system are just ways that are being created to make some excitement on playing gambling because this method would somehow make your game time a longer time compare on playing all in.

Martingale will always suck the whole bankroll you have
If you have an unlimited bankroll then you will have an unlimited lost too , as simply as like that
Don't think you can win with that ridiculous method , it has proven didn't work in any ways
Especially if you gamble in dice using martingale betting system , it is a perfect wat to lost your money quickly.

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Quote from: emberbekas on December 26, 2016, 01:08:19 PM

Quote from: Kotone on December 26, 2016, 10:03:05 AM

Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

There is modified martiangle but i don't think that can help you to win if you're wondering how its work then you need to figure it out by your own make your own strategies by doing random bets and analyzing the gambling it self. But if i were you don't use martiangle

Yup...everyday people try to modify this martingale system to minimize their lost but I am not sure if one of them already found the best one. For me, if we keep using this system for a longer time, we will end in a very bad result(lost much and cant cover it due to limited balance or max profit feature).

No matter how many times you developed or modify the martingale system it wouldnt still work in longer runs just like what happen on most methods out there.Martingale or reversed martingale system are just ways that are being created to make some excitement on playing gambling because this method would somehow make your game time a longer time compare on playing all in.

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I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

Actually there are only stretagy to gamble with Bitcoin in casino is to increment in your bet by ×2 if you loss your bet .
Secondly take eye on the Profit % . Because there is a factor of house edge which gives us limit to earn Bitcoin at that gambling site . If you will cross house edge of site then you will loss every bet .

Hilarious to see this dude here trying to come up with something that seems like its a fact whereas he doesn't have a clue what House edge even means.

@MC , martingale(and any modified versions of it) is(/are) the worst ways to throw your money down the dump(which is not saying much as all strats will eventually lead to that result). There are a few "safe" strategies, which allow you to get over with a tiny profit even with a huge loss streak but don't aim for making much of a profit(in the short term that is) with it.

Yup...mexxer-2 beat me to this one. Don't listen to this guy claiming to understand the dynamics of the Martingale system....I think he's confusing house edge with the sites Kelly criterion limits or something. Intuitively, the Martingale system and its variations might seem like a profitable strategy....but they are nothing but trouble because they rely upon long term investments which inevitably produce the variance which leads to extreme loss. There are techniques that can be utilized in some instances to optimize a return on investment, but they should only be practiced by those who're mathematically competent.

"mathematically competent" people know that -ev bets are bad, so there is no technique to optimize a return on investment on a dice site besides being the casino.

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on December 21, 2016, 02:35:18 PM

Quote from: coynedterm on December 21, 2016, 10:49:31 AM

Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

Actually there are only stretagy to gamble with Bitcoin in casino is to increment in your bet by ×2 if you loss your bet .
Secondly take eye on the Profit % . Because there is a factor of house edge which gives us limit to earn Bitcoin at that gambling site . If you will cross house edge of site then you will loss every bet .

Hilarious to see this dude here trying to come up with something that seems like its a fact whereas he doesn't have a clue what House edge even means.

@MC , martingale(and any modified versions of it) is(/are) the worst ways to throw your money down the dump(which is not saying much as all strats will eventually lead to that result). There are a few "safe" strategies, which allow you to get over with a tiny profit even with a huge loss streak but don't aim for making much of a profit(in the short term that is) with it.

Yup...mexxer-2 beat me to this one. Don't listen to this guy claiming to understand the dynamics of the Martingale system....I think he's confusing house edge with the sites Kelly criterion limits or something. Intuitively, the Martingale system and its variations might seem like a profitable strategy....but they are nothing but trouble because they rely upon long term investments which inevitably produce the variance which leads to extreme loss. There are techniques that can be utilized in some instances to optimize a return on investment, but they should only be practiced by those who're mathematically competent.

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Quote from: Kotone on December 26, 2016, 10:03:05 AM

Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

There is modified martiangle but i don't think that can help you to win if you're wondering how its work then you need to figure it out by your own make your own strategies by doing random bets and analyzing the gambling it self. But if i were you don't use martiangle

Yup...everyday people try to modify this martingale system to minimize their lost but I am not sure if one of them already found the best one. For me, if we keep using this system for a longer time, we will end in a very bad result(lost much and cant cover it due to limited balance or max profit feature).

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Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

There is modified martiangle but i don't think that can help you to win if you're wondering how its work then you need to figure it out by your own make your own strategies by doing random bets and analyzing the gambling it self. But if i were you don't use martiangle

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Quote from: aardvark15 on December 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

Talking about dice game, if the original martingale isn't effective how far the modified one? Still they are playing under the provably fair system "in every rolls" so nothing changed. Martingale is not a technology that can be modified. The output of martingale will always be the same.

If you are looking on how can you increase the chances of your winning by using martingale then try sports betting instead. It's far more effective in sposts betting than putting that method in those house edge gambling games. The analyzation of course will come on yourself based on your research and proper betting. Not an assurance that it can give you always win but it can take your for a long run with a good win/loss record.

you're obviously true that the point of this thread is OP has looking new strategy to increase his winning and i think strategy in gambling only makes people more confident when they starting gambling but regarding the results it will be unpredictable however using martingale for sport betting too have high risk because if you putting your money for high odds then it will automatically reduce your chance to win your bets because usually on sport betting high odds have low chance to win

in every type of betting high odds has a low chance of winning. That's how casinos make money, by paying out less than the actual odds.

Its just a common sense thing already and no gambling site doesnt have a house edge because they get profits on that.For me i could say there no good modified martingale strategy because theres no such good ways or methods that would able to make you profits overtime and thats the reality on playing gambling and i dont really use that methods.

I didnt hear such gambling site that dont have a house edge and as you said there are no methods that you could able to take advantage into a certain gambling site because those martingale might work for sometimes but house will definitely bust you up and you will surely lose in the end if you are not lucky enough on that particular day.

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Quote from: Phildo on December 21, 2016, 01:36:08 AM

No.

Each bet on a dice site has a negative expected value.

Each bet on a dice site is an independent event.

There is no way to combine independent bets with negative expectations to give you a positive expectation.

If there was a way to beat the house, the house would be broken.

of course no , unless if you do martingale not continuously.
i mean to use martingale betting system in short time with a low percentage bet amount from your bankroll.
for example do martingale with bet amount of 0.01 out of your 10 bitcoin bankroll means it is 0.1 percent! and stop martingale when you have got 1 percent.

It doesn't matter how small the% of your bankroll you are using in martingale. It still takes 10 wins to get up 1% and a losing streak of about 10-20 to lose ALL of your bankroll. Do you really want to risk losing 10 bitcoin for a chance to win 0.01 bitcoin? Personally I don't really like the odds and a long losing (or winning for that matter) is more likely than you might think.

i know it, since first time i will never suggest anyone to do martingale betting system.
i just share about my opinion on how modifying martingale , not suggesting to use it.
anyways 0.1 percent base bet isn't that bad , worth to try (for those who brave only) lol.

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