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I'm going to reply to this thread with honesty and anyone from my locality can attest to my opinion.
You see, there are some countries that are still living below the international poverty line, my country for example pay a minimum wage of #30,000 which is <= $53 (depending on the $$ rate, I used #570 per dollar) and imagine someone earning $1500 (570*1500 = #855,000) in a week, that's should be enough to feed you and your family and save some for rainy days unless you are the type that loves extravagant life, but trust me, you are 4 times better than some running for jobs slots in big firms. In fact, let me burst your bubbles, that's the salary of some master holders in some big firms.
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If you can sacrifice your luxury in life then Bangladesh or India can be affordable with small living costs.
No kidding?  I'm friendly with a few guys who own small stores in my area who are from Bangladesh, and I always ask them about it.  Their accents are very thick and their English isn't great, so it's hard to understand them sometimes, but I enjoy chatting with them.  They've got wicked senses of humor, much like many of the Indians I've met in the US.  I never asked them why they immigrated here--and I probably shouldn't, but I'm curious now.


Bangladesh is a developing country. Monthly income here is way less than in most of the western countries. So many people go out of the country who seek luxury and a western lifestyle. It's very common here and a large quantity of Bangladeshi who are immigrants in the west are students or political refugees. As long as you are not doing something against the current govt you have nothing to worry about. For being a developing country political instability is common here too. But I can assure you most of the Bangladeshi people are very hospitable towards foreigners and treat them as a guest.

If you ever come to Bangladesh be my guest.
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amazing... and to think I have denied every signature campaign that I have been asked to participate in. lol
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Don't take the signature campaigns as a main income. This is should be just a bonus for the time and effort spent on the forum but turning it into your main income, there are too many negative effects.
First, spamming the forum because of the fulfilling of the minimum requirements often are quite high and if you have nothing to add to the conversation, you just post low effort posts and turn yourself to a spammer.
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My question is whether there's any place on earth where $1500/week could allow five roommates to live very comfortably--perhaps not as boss-like as I described above, but maybe at least the big house and property.

Yes, there are lot of places and i will like to use Africa as a case study. West African countries are known to be a fast developing region in Africa and to be able to sustain an average livelihood of about five family members as i will give a breakdown of the situation in the region first.

In West Africa, it is believed that their economy is above average in stability, their currency is below the standard USD, cost of living is less, there is peace stability, stable power supply, good network access in specific regions, access to luxury life, accessible road and serene environment, moderate weather conditions and absence of natural disasters.

With $1500/weekly earnings one can easily make a good living with 5 people all together in West Africa, the first step is to make a currency conversion of $1500 by the worth of 1$ to their local currency, using Nigeria as an example, $1=#560 and 1500x560=#840,000 per week which is good enough to make a living for a whole complete month in Nigeria together with the 5 household members after feeding and paying house rent, about #300,000 will still be left, base on my living experience there.

Secondly, one can choose to save up for about two months, come to West Africa, convert the $ into their local currency, buy a land, build a house, and furnish the house considering location to accessible network frame and water which are part of essentials to your good living over there as a good network is needed to continue your online forum campaign and water for a good sign of living.

In a nutshell, going by the economy of a region, cost of living, their currency value to USD, one can easily make a plan to live comfortably with such earnings from a signature campaign. Lastly, another consideration is in the ability of the person being able to know how to manage things, set priority and ability to maximize effective use of resources.
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My only suggestion is - don't move to country just because it is cheap to live there. No offense to people who live in such countries, but if you selection is based by affordability of everything around, don't expect quality. Not to mention it will start to break you mentally. You should aim to live in expensive place, live expensive life, earn more. Cheap will become your new normal.

Advice - before making a decision to move, try to live in new country for a month. To live somewhere not in a capital or tourist place. Somewhere were there are more locals. Try to live the life locals have.

English is your native language? Go to Malta. English is their second language. Small island. You can get everywhere within 4-6h car ride. Calm and measured life. But you can always go to Paceville for a party. You can get Malta citizenship for example by leasing a property for 5 years or make donation. Sun, sea and Binance around the corner - what else do you need ? Cheesy

P.S. Malta is friendly for crypto  Cool
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300 dollars is more than enough for a single family in here, We are from the south and the cost of living is actually affordable for a minimum wage of 6 dollars a day. Can you believe that? 6 dollars is what the common people gets in here and they don't even bother. There a few that are getting paid below that, around 4 dollars a day or lower.

We are a small family that is consisting of 3 members, me my wife and a 2 year old daughter. Also we are nearing baby number 2. My current sigs pays me 40 a week and I did not even spend a quarter of the total payments for three weeks. It is because we can manage to live just spending 3 dollars a day. How would that 300 dollars you are receiving if I am in your shoes. I could buy things that I want. Try a vacation in the Philippines, I recommend you the south were there are many beaches to visit. Palawan is the best , see for your self where that 1200/month leaves you. Please don't look down down us even we are just living a simple life in here.
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That all being said, I doubt there is a place in Africa where a brand new 4 series would cost the same as the average annual wage as it does in the US.
And if that place does exist, then the next thing I do is go there and buy a dozen of them to sell it back home.
Alright, alright, you're taking my words too literally and too seriously.  Forget about the car, and I concur with all the points you made.

Ultimately, I'm looking for a country (or part of a country) where the value of a certain amount of bitcoin has way, waaay more purchasing power in general than it does where I live, which is in the US.  The real estate isn't negotiable, though, because a king and his court must have a castle, and it has to be affordable.  Call girlz and their dirty services can be negotiated easily enough (or so they tell me), plus the cost is much cheaper than land, assuming we don't have a sex addict in the castle.

It really depends on what you imagine 'living like a king' is. There is no modern country on the planet where you don't have ultrawealthy individuals (ultrawealthy from my perspective), so would you be able to be on their level? No. Could you live a decent life just by sig campaigns, yeah, I guess you could, but that's as far as that goes? It's a good addition to your regular income.
When I say "live like a king" I really mean relative to everyone else in the area, because what other meaning could that phrase possibly have?  And I'll add to that the fact that I myself don't require much in the way of physical possessions, nor those things that we do in secret at Foxpup's secret meetings, or social status.  I'm content to live as a reclusive bum, unshaven, unshowered, and overall unkempt.  Hence the basement preference; it's altruism.  The attraction is to move away from the US to a better climate where the USD value of bitcoin can be stretched much further, thereby allowing me to drop out of the soul-crushing workforce and perchance to cohabitate with a few fellow bitcoiners.

Is that completely unclear?  I've been up for about 38 hours.

If you can sacrifice your luxury in life then Bangladesh or India can be affordable with small living costs.
No kidding?  I'm friendly with a few guys who own small stores in my area who are from Bangladesh, and I always ask them about it.  Their accents are very thick and their English isn't great, so it's hard to understand them sometimes, but I enjoy chatting with them.  They've got wicked senses of humor, much like many of the Indians I've met in the US.  I never asked them why they immigrated here--and I probably shouldn't, but I'm curious now.

Naturalization is permitted by the Citizenship Law of Bangladesh.
Yes!

Any adult of good character who is married to a Bangladeshi and residing legally in Bangladesh for a period of five years;
Yes!  I'd have to hit the streets pretty quick.

competent in the Bengali language;
F-f-f-f--ff-f-FUCK!!!!

Afghanistan
Oh hell no.  Dude, I don't even think I could fly to Afghanistan, much less live in my self-styled castle with my fellow Chipmixers with sufficient internet to get the rent paid.  I also don't want to get executed, head-lopped-off style and have it broadcast on some website dedicated to that shit.
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If you are not scared, any post soviet country will be a suitable place for $1500/weekly income family. Some of European countries will also do. Btw, we dont know your requests and what do you understand under "live comfortably".

For example I like warm climate, and I like if the country is developed and not relatively poor. I cant see myself living on an island, where you get from one village to another by scooter. All that jungles around.

My travelling experience tell me that eastern Spain suits me. It is warm there mostly, but not killing hot. You can rent a house or big apartments for 1500-2000 EUR/month. There are a lot of things to do there, to visit. People are friendly. Perhaps it will be hard to live comfortably there if you are 5, but 3 persons can make it easily. In addition, it is easy to travel from Spain all around the world. Think about it if you want to move (you are not going to sit there in one place until you retire). I have never been to Philippines (as you have mentioned it), but I expect it will be more complicated to travel from them, compared if travel from France, UK, Spain and etc.
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I'm a senior unix system engineer with 2 masters in a developed west european country and i make about $3500/month.
My wife is a teacher with 2 bachelors and she makes about $2000/month.

$1500/week is ~$215/day. That's ~$78k/year.
My wife and i combined make about ~$66k/year for doing specialised jobs with a lots of responsability, a bachelor/master degree, many years of ancienity in a developed country... I'm pretty sure you can live like a king in several other countrys with a much lower income.

We're a family of 3, but adding an extra 2 people won't increase the expenditure by 40%. You don't need 5 cars, 5 TV set's, 5 gaming consoles, you don't need to spend 5x as much for heating or for ISP connectivity.

In my country, which is one of the more expensive ones in the world, i'm pretty sure you can rent a house big enough to accommodate 5 people without compromising comfort, you can have 2 cars, you can have food and entertainment... You probably have enough left over to take a big overseas vacation once or twice a year. Sure, it won't be living like kings, but you'd have a warm house, a private bedroom, a bathroom you only need to share with 1 or 2 people, a car you have to share with 1 or 2 people, hot food, medical attention, entertainment,...
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That tells me that there's something to it, because there's no way father, sons, mom, and whatever grandparents are still alive would be bounty hunting if it weren't at least a little bit lucrative.  So I'd love to know how far campaign earnings ($1500 per week for 5 people in my example) could be stretched.  Are there actually places out there where one could not only survive but thrive by earning bitcoin on the forum?


If you can sacrifice your luxury in life then Bangladesh or India can be affordable with small living costs. For being an agricultural country food is pretty cheap here. You can afford and eat a healthy diet and enough food with just 100$ per month for an individual. Another 100$ for your house rent and transportation cost but it's in a small town where no pollution and traffic jams can annoy you. If you want to stay in a metropolitan city then you have to double that amount.

If you can add another 100$ then your life will be a luxury here. I do not need any data to show you because I am telling you this from my personal experience.





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Naturalization is permitted by the Citizenship Law of Bangladesh. Any adult of good character who is married to a Bangladeshi and residing legally in Bangladesh for a period of five years; competent in the Bengali language; and intending to reside in Bangladesh can apply for naturalization.
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Living like a king is relative to environment. Taking my country - Nigeria for instance. The largest city is Nigeria is Lagos. In lagos there is a place called Banana Ireland, in that area $1500 per week will only make you an average Nigerian. But in same Lagos, there is Sango, Egbeda, Idimu where $1500 per week will make you live like a king.

Looking at the general economies of the country, before last year the minimum wage used to be N18,000 per month which is about $30 per month. But it is now increased to N30,000 per month which is about $53 per month.
Saying about $300 per week, is good to live like a king only if it remains steady as you said.

Relocating to Nigeria is not difficult because the country is very hospitable and welcomes strangers as giants of Africa. In Nigeria, for residential purpose the best city to live in is Abuja which is the headquarters of Nigeria. But for business purpose you can choose Lagos.
But in all $1500 is rather the yearly payment of many unprotected labour and employees in the average cities of the country.
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It really depends on what you imagine 'living like a king' is. There is no modern country on the planet where you don't have ultrawealthy individuals (ultrawealthy from my perspective), so would you be able to be on their level? No. Could you live a decent life just by sig campaigns, yeah, I guess you could, but that's as far as that goes? It's a good addition to your regular income.
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You can check the list of countries offering minimum wagers this article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_minimum_wage and then accordingly decide which country to move in depending on the safety, which is listed in this article - https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/safest-countries-in-the-world


Afghanistan is the place where monthly living cost is just above 350$ but many people will not feel comfortable in the rule of the Taliban so Pakistan could be the 2nd best place for you. 370$ per month for an individual. You can live with good food, a home and can afford safe and comfortable transportation. Peoples are also hospitable towards foreigners.

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Top 10 Cheapest Countries to Live In (in monthly US$) - Living Cost

Afghanistan - $354
Pakistan - $370
India - $423
Tunisia - $424
Sri Lanka - $428
Kyrgyzstan - $430
Algeria - $431
Syria - $435
Nepal - $439
Turkey - $447

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cheapest-countries-to-live-in

Afghanistan does not have a banking system and is also in constant civil war. India and Nepal are safer than other countries listed on the list but the new Indian tax system will swallow 30 percent of your cryptocurrency earnings. Therefore in my opinion, Nepal & Srilanka right now can be the destination where you can live like a king with your earnings from the Signature campaign.
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My question is whether there's any place on earth where $1500/week could allow five roommates to live very comfortably--perhaps not as boss-like as I described above, but maybe at least the big house and property.  Over the years I've heard stories that Filipino members were able to pay for a good weekly allocation of food just from campaign earnings, and they amounted to a lot less the last time I participated in one of those discussions.  I'm not picking on the Philippines; it's just something I remember and I don't even know if it's true.  What I'm fairly sure of is that there really do exist bounty farms within single households, where multiple family members are all on bitcointalk spamming away and earning who knows how much.

That tells me that there's something to it, because there's no way father, sons, mom, and whatever grandparents are still alive would be bounty hunting if it weren't at least a little bit lucrative.  So I'd love to know how far campaign earnings ($1500 per week for 5 people in my example) could be stretched.  Are there actually places out there where one could not only survive but thrive by earning bitcoin on the forum?



I'll lock this thread if anyone reports that this has been discussed ad nauseam.  But if it has, I've certainly missed it.

Afghanistan is the place where monthly living cost is just above 350$ but many people will not feel comfortable in the rule of the Taliban so Pakistan could be the 2nd best place for you. 370$ per month for an individual. You can live with good food, a home and can afford safe and comfortable transportation. Peoples are also hospitable towards foreigners.

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Top 10 Cheapest Countries to Live In (in monthly US$) - Living Cost

Afghanistan - $354
Pakistan - $370
India - $423
Tunisia - $424
Sri Lanka - $428
Kyrgyzstan - $430
Algeria - $431
Syria - $435
Nepal - $439
Turkey - $447

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cheapest-countries-to-live-in
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Let's say a few of the Chipmixer crowd wanted to escape whatever tyranny they were living under in their country or countries (I picked that campaign because I think it's the highest-paying one, but correct me if I'm wrong).  We'll assume for the sake of argument that the campaign is going to continue indefinitely and that each member (let's say five in total) make the maximum number of posts per week, earning $300 worth of bitcoin in the process.
People in Chipmixer campaign living in some country will live a very good life. There are some things that can be expesive in such countries, things that are important like cars and some other things like that which they import, but when it comes to food, renting house and daily living, it will be much cheap.

You can check this site: https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries.jsp

Let us compare US and Nigeria: https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Nigeria&country2=United+States

In the state I am living, my friend rented an apartment worth only $517 per year, a very good apartment. People in my state are still complaining of rise in food stuff but it is nothing to those in Chipmixer.

To tell the truth, some people from such countries are able to make good life with even the $300 they are collecting but they can also have other ways of making money, but they can have good living with $300.

Another thing is that the minimum wage of some countries is less than $1.8 dollars per day, that is around $52 in a month and the government workers are still living in the country while some private are paying lower. You can see how someone collecting $300 is benefit more than that.
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Most if you live in Southeast Asia (excluding Singapore, not too familiar about Malaysia) with $300/week you can live quite well, can not be said rich but at least in Jakarta (the capital of Indonesia) you can live in installments to have a car (standard car not luxury). 300/week or 1,200/month equals Rp. 17,000,000. With that money can't live like a king but at least you will look more respectable for having an income above average.
This is the average cost of living in Jakarta.
and also the average salary of employees in Jakarta
So the money is very likely to provide a better life and is quite sure it will be the same as developing countries even more so for poor countries.
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Take the BMW for example, it's not going to be 10 times cheaper in Bangladesh than in Luxemburg.  Living like a king and at the same time not affording a trip to Europe or any other place on the opposite side of the globe cause the plane tickets alone are your income for 2 months?
OK, I can see your point about plane tickets but is it really true that the price of "automobile X" is the same all over the world?  I plead ignorance of the facts, but I find that hard to believe.

No, of course not but it's not following the purchasing power, there are actually countries where because of taxes and registration fees cars end up being more expensive despite the average wage being lower. If I remember correctly the Philippines is one of those countries with a tax for "luxury", Denmark is definitely another. There are also a ton of countries where imports make foreign cars way pricier than their comparable rival model manufactured there, in China for example has a 15% tax on European cars and a 40% on USA-made vehicles.

That all being said, I doubt there is a place in Africa where a brand new 4 series would cost the same as the average annual wage as it does in the US.
And if that place does exist, then the next thing I do is go there and buy a dozen of them to sell it back home.
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That tells me that there's something to it, because there's no way father, sons, mom, and whatever grandparents are still alive would be bounty hunting if it weren't at least a little bit lucrative.  So I'd love to know how far campaign earnings ($1500 per week for 5 people in my example) could be stretched.  Are there actually places out there where one could not only survive but thrive by earning bitcoin on the forum?


With 6000$ per month you have a pretty bit choice. You can have a good life in most part of the world. For your purposes you just need to find a friendly place with a decent infrastructure.

For now, following options are coming to my mind:

Malaysia, Philippines, Vietnam and Thailand. These places are pretty cheap and friendly for foreigners. If you come in a group then it is possible to find a fancy villa. But I'm not sure if you may get a cool car there.
Cuba, Georgia, Armenia, Egypt, Turkey, India and Morocco also should be fine, at least they are actively attracting foreigners and they are safe.

P.S. In case anyone is making a group for such journey - please hit me up.
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I think that going 5 people to another country to live together is more typical of 20-somethings, if you're over 40 or 50 I don't see it.
I see your point, but there have got to be plenty of bitcoiners over the age of 40 who are disenchanted with their country and their government, who have few attachments as far as family or friends, and who'd love the adventure of something like I'm hypothetically suggesting.

If it was me who was the >40 guy in the group, I'd just insist on a basement apartment and mostly keep to myself, only bobbing my head up to socialize with my younger team members.  And I can pretty much guarantee you the climate--and I'm talking about the weather here--would be so much better than where I live now.

In my case, hypothetically, ifI went to another country I would take savings with me, because apart from the weekly expenses you can have unforeseen events. How would you pay the hospital in a foreign country if you fall seriously ill or have an accident? You would have to see if you can buy health insurance before you go.
Of course!  That's a risk you take when you jump so far out of your comfort zone that you'd need something stronger than Googly Maps to guide you back to it.  And let's say this is a big house that has plenty of room for a bunch of GPUs.  There's some mining that could be done as a side hustle so long as electricity is reasonable.  And that said, I just checked the average cost in the Philippines and it's like $0.305/kWh.  That's a big deal-breaker.  

If you got into an accident, that's one thing.  That'll cost you straight out of your wallet.  But if you come down with, say, cancer you'd still have US (or whatever country) citizenship and presumably a way to pay for your treatment.  I do get that it's a major risk, though.

If I didn't have a 9 to 5 job, I think I could do other things besides writing 50 posts and get paid. I would still play poker, so I would have another source of income, and even people who don't play poker could create one or two alts to generate more money with signature campaigns, even if these campaigns paid less than the Chip Mixer.
Now where did I ever mention that signature campaigns had to be the sole source of income?  In my hypothetical I just specified that they be the primary source.  I agree with you 100%.  I'd be bored as hell and probably would be found hanging from a string in the basement in no less than a month or two if the only thing I could do was write posts.

Think of the advantage you'd have if you could live in our hypothetical house and have your way paid for simply by making 50 posts/week.  That would free you up for so many other things!  If you're in your 20s, it'd be like retiring early--even if you got a 9-5 job in the new country (which a lot of retirees do anyway).  You'd already be making "fuck you" money, so you wouldn't have to apply for shit jobs and if you didn't get one you could spend your time playing poker.  Not a bad deal, I'd say.

Live a nice life? Probably in all the countries where the median wage is below half of what you make!
Well yeah, that's exactly what I mean.  That's my point exactly.

Take the BMW for example, it's not going to be 10 times cheaper in Bangladesh than in Luxemburg.  Living like a king and at the same time not affording a trip to Europe or any other place on the opposite side of the globe cause the plane tickets alone are your income for 2 months?
OK, I can see your point about plane tickets but is it really true that the price of "automobile X" is the same all over the world?  I plead ignorance of the facts, but I find that hard to believe.  But in any case, the dope whip was just an afterthought.  It's the real estate I'm most interested in, and I know damn well prices for houses and land are not constant throughout the world, just like electricity, petrol, and prostitutsia.  Or treatment for gonorrhea for that matter--and while we're on the subject, I can stick with my typically subterranean standards and be chaste if the carnal act you circumnavigated around naming really does cost $100.

OMG, are wages really that low in Egypt?  I would not have guessed that.

A'ight boys, we're flying to Sri Lanka or Ethiopia!  You can flip a coin.
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