Is there a possibility to Fix Neutral Trust? - page 2.

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Quote from: OcTradism on August 11, 2023, 10:55:31 PM

Neutral trust or negative trust received from a forum member, if you don't want to see it, distrust that user in your Trust list...

This will not be a solution to the problem, since everyone else will continue to see these reviews left by DT members, and first of all managers who conduct a Signature Campaign and this is the main reason why the OP wants to get rid of these tags. The use of ChatGPT can be regarded as plagiarism, since the OP actually published his post, which he did not write himself, and this may already lead to a negative mark in the trust.

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Just one question for the Op; if you hadn't been caught, would you have sought for a way to "fix" the neutral trust system? Or are you the kind of person to care about something only when it sorely affects you? You have been in the forum for sometime now and at least must have read where the use of ChatGTP is heavily frowned upon but it seemed you turned a blind eye to that and now you are looking for a way to work it out.
The forum is an excellent place to share info but that doesn't mean you have to spam or involve the use of AI. It's just like you don't want to put in too much work but want to benefit from it.

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If someone has been on the forum since 2017 and has not yet learned that it is completely wrong (and punishable) to present someone else's work as one's own, and in addition only regrets it when he is caught in the act - I think the matter is more than clear.

Quote from: fathafraink on August 10, 2023, 10:22:09 PM

I've found this forum an excellent place to share information, and I really feel that way...
~snip~

Thank you, but I and many others are really not interested in what AI thinks, it is not sharing information but simply rewriting. You can be happy if this whole situation doesn't end with someone leaving you negative feedback, or if you don't get a permanent ban.

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I have seen people getting banned for using AI generated posts, how about that? You still just received a Neutral Trust which doesn't make any negative impact on your profile. That trust left by the guy is actually showcasing others that this user did something wrong at one point of time. This will be your learning and when you come back and look at it after years, you will realize how foolish it was to copy content from AI and post it on a public forum which requires you to use a little part of the brain.

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Quote from: fathafraink on August 10, 2023, 10:22:09 PM

Is there a possibility to fix Neutral Trust?

Of course. I've added another one. You're welcome.

Quote from: Woodie on August 12, 2023, 02:29:08 AM

neutral trust isn't as bad as it sounds because people have done good things and received neutral trust for it

That's why you should always read the feedback, instead of only looking at the number. OP just applied to Royse777's anti AI campaign. The neutral feedback makes it easy for the campaign manager to reject such spammers.

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Honestly count yourself lucky that it only went as far as neutral trust, because if you think about it using AI to generate posts for the forum can easily be categorized as some kind of plagiarism as far as am concerned, and in the future ..I see AI generated posts to be having a different outcome if found guilty for it!!

Besides, neutral trust isn't as bad as it sounds because people have done good things and received neutral trust for it, so for now you shouldn't be bothered about it unless its negative trust you got, otherwise welcome to the neutral trust club Cool

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Quote from: Rikafip on August 11, 2023, 01:53:29 AM

Quote from: fathafraink on August 10, 2023, 10:22:09 PM

Is there a possibility to fix Neutral Trust?

It is possible, but due the reason that you got yours it won't be easy at all as you would have to prove that you changed and that you are not chatbot shitposter anymore and that takes time and effort on your side.

Quote from: fathafraink on August 10, 2023, 10:22:09 PM

I'm really sorry for my mistake, ignorance makes me so regretful, In the future I will
be really careful to post or create Threads/Topics

Ignorance is not a valid excuse and you should feel lucky that you only ended up with neutral tag as plagiarism (and use of Chatgpt isn't plagiarism indeed) is usually punished by forum ban.

Still the user can get temporary ban if enough post gets deleted for AI posting

And for anyone who wonders we can report the AI posts as zero value posts then yes, and the post will get deleted from my personal experience.

He is really lucky to just have a neutral tag and am not sure it's done.

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Neutral trust or negative trust received from a forum member, if you don't want to see it, distrust that user in your Trust list.

Their trust feedback on your account will only be visible with default trust if the member is in DT. If he is not in DT, it will be hidden in Untrusted feedback and you even don't need to add that user in your trust list with ~.

LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

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Quote from: fathafraink on August 10, 2023, 10:22:09 PM

Is there a possibility to fix Neutral Trust?

It is possible, but due the reason that you got yours it won't be easy at all as you would have to prove that you changed and that you are not chatbot shitposter anymore and that takes time and effort on your side.

Quote from: fathafraink on August 10, 2023, 10:22:09 PM

I'm really sorry for my mistake, ignorance makes me so regretful, In the future I will
be really careful to post or create Threads/Topics

Ignorance is not a valid excuse and you should feel lucky that you only ended up with neutral tag as plagiarism (and use of Chatgpt isn't plagiarism indeed) is usually punished by forum ban.

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OP, what are you doing? You're linking to an AI-created topic instead of just blocking it.
Cantsay suggested that you open a separate thread to resolve your issue. But you resurrect an old thread, and then you write, quoting the big post in the thread where your AI bug was discovered. And now another topic for the newbies.
Why so many? Close this topic too; it is enough to write once where you were caught, but you were silent until the need made you scream all over the forum.

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on August 10, 2023, 11:48:11 PM

Firstly you don’t have to wait for moderators to help you delete your own post or replies. You can simply just delete it by yourself. You can see the button here

As for your neutral tag you can simply start an appeal or some what Pm the member (Although some of this pm can be seen as unsolicited) and if he thinks you have change your ways and deemed you worthy of it been revised then he/she will do that.

Unfortunately, It can't be, I tried but it says : https://prnt.sc/ZBL2wbdTOPS8

Quote from: nakamura12 on August 10, 2023, 11:09:19 PM

Since you explained that you did use AI to generate post as I have read in your thread, you better stop doing it. As for your neutral trust score is it won't be easy to make the neutral trust removed. Try to appeal your situation to the one who give you that neutral trust and see if he will remove it. As Cantsay said, the chance of it getting removed is slim because using AI is very much the same as plagiarism since it is not your own work that you have submitted as your own. I advice you to stop using AI because in the future you may get negative trust instead of neutral trust score.

Thanks for you advice my Friend. Sure I will not used any AI or plagiarism type for my posts. Hope it will be removed soon, already make an appeal. Thanks for your reply my friend.

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Firstly you don’t have to wait for moderators to help you delete your own post or replies. You can simply just delete it by yourself. You can see the button here

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Since you explained that you did use AI to generate post as I have read in your thread, you better stop doing it. As for your neutral trust score is it won't be easy to make the neutral trust removed. Try to appeal your situation to the one who give you that neutral trust and see if he will remove it. As Cantsay said, the chance of it getting removed is slim because using AI is very much the same as plagiarism since it is not your own work that you have submitted as your own. I advice you to stop using AI because in the future you may get negative trust instead of neutral trust score.

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Quote from: Cantsay on August 10, 2023, 10:25:28 PM

Quote from: fathafraink on August 10, 2023, 10:22:09 PM

Please give me advice or a way to improve the Neutral Trust that I'm experiencing, Thank you all friends.

First move your topic to Reputation board.

I just did a quick scan through the thread where your post were reported as an AI generated post and I couldn’t find any of your reply there either denying or agreeing to the report and now that you have made this post it means you have really agreed to the fact that you really used AI to generate post.

Thanks for your help my Bro. I hope it will be solved. Really Thanks again friend.

here it is : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5459577

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Quote from: fathafraink on August 10, 2023, 10:22:09 PM

Please give me advice or a way to improve the Neutral Trust that I'm experiencing, Thank you all friends.

First move your topic to Reputation board.

I just did a quick scan through the thread where your post were reported as an AI generated post and I couldn’t find any of your reply there either denying or agreeing to the report and now that you have made this post it means you have really agreed to the fact that you really used AI to generate post.

You should start your appeal from the thread where your post were reported, although the chance of you getting your neutral tag removed as at now is very slim.

Quote from: fathafraink on August 10, 2023, 10:31:09 PM

here it is : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5459577

I was actually referring to this appeal thread of yours not the AI generated thread.

Move this thread to reputation board, that’s the appropriate board for post like this.

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Is there a possibility to fix Neutral Trust?

I recently ran into the bad thing that is Neutral Trust on my Topic or posts, and that's because
I use ChatGPT. I fully realize and acknowledge that I use ChatGPT, but I do
I don't know if using ChatGPT or something like that can affect my account, for example getting Neutral Trust.
I'm really sorry for my mistake, ignorance makes me so regretful, In the future I will
be really careful to post or create Threads/Topics on this very special Forum.
I've found this forum an excellent place to share information, and I really feel that way
kinship and brotherhood in this forum. From that I want to ask for the opinion and help of all my friends,
Please give me advice or a way to improve the Neutral Trust that I'm experiencing, Thank you all friends.

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