Is there a way to spend bitcoins on a site that takes PayPal?

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Quote from: Elwar on July 28, 2016, 01:39:42 PM

Quote from: Kprawn on July 28, 2016, 10:53:05 AM

Do not flame me for saying this, but if we continue finding workarounds for these problems, merchants will not need to receive Bitcoin directly. We do not want to rely on 3rd party services to be able to

use Bitcoin. I had the same problem with a local pub, and I worked at them for weeks... they now accept BTC as payment and in reward, I arrange Bitcoin meetups at their place. We have to go the

extra mile to get what we want, but workarounds should be our last resort. Roll Eyes

My goal is on the spending side. To show that you can drop your bank, get paid only in bitcoins and be able to live on that. I did find another way to buy my groceries online with bitcoins but this one would be a bit more convenient.

I will contact them directly though to see if they can look into it though.

If people are able to live on bitcoins, then more stores will understand that this is a typical payment method and then they will start providing it as an option. Chicken and egg thing...unless you're a business, this is the way you can push forward your side of the equation.

Well it's always worth a try to ask if they would consider accepting Bitcoin in the future.

But isn't it also possible to pay with a debit card through Paypal without actually having an account, I know it's possible with credit cards, so I would think it's also possible with a debit card, although I haven't tried this myself.

Or is that something that the merchant has to allow?

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Try a bitcoin debit card. They're not actual "bitcoin debit cards", where your bitcoin value is converted live into Fiat, but more like a platform where you sell your bitcoin for Fiat and you spend the fiat. There's no other way

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Quote from: SAMKUSH on July 28, 2016, 08:29:23 AM

Quote from: Elwar on July 28, 2016, 08:04:13 AM

So I found a local food store that I can buy all of my food online and have it delivered for 1.50. I've been trying some different ways of paying for food with bitcoins and this looks like the best way to go. Unfortunately they only take credit card or PayPal as payment.

I know of a few services that will send money to your PayPal account in exchange for bitcoins but when I go to pay at the food site it asks me to log into my PayPal account to pay. Unfortunately it does not just provide a PayPal address.

In theory I can just exchange my bitcoins for PayPal and pay for my food that way but that seems like a roundabout way of doing things and my ultimate goal is to drop all of my bank accounts (does PayPal allow you to have an account with no bank account?).

Is there a more direct solution?

You can create a PayPal account without a bank accounts this may be the easiest option for you. Just be careful as non verified Paypal accounts have certain limits on what you can spend each month, you need to make sure that your total spending per month does not exceed these limits.

You don't need to link your bank account, adding a credit card is enough to obtain a verified PayPal. But I guess that's not an option either if op wants to be rid of everything to do with banks. A Bitcoin debit card is probably your only option at this point. It wouldn't hurt to send them feedback via their website suggesting to add Bitcoin as a payment method.

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Quote from: zend7 on July 28, 2016, 12:00:52 PM

Coinbase just released something on their website that says you can now use your debit card and credit card to buy bitcoins from them.
Is this new? I just got that message popup for the first time i have seen this message before.

I think Coinbase now also provide the facility that they also support simultaneous bitcoin and paypal and I think this is a breakthrough of Coinbase or for bitcoin itself. yeah i think the facilities that will help bitcoin and the deployment

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Quote from: Elwar on July 28, 2016, 09:56:10 AM

I have a bitcoin debit card but have never used it. I have a euro card and only tried it in the US and it didn't work.

I'm assuming you're in US right now too? If so, the probably only more direct way is to ask them if that certain store accepts debit cards as payment and if they do, then you can use bitcoin debit card. I'm pretty sure that it would work since the value of bitcoin will be paid to them in cash or something like that.

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Quote from: Kprawn on July 28, 2016, 10:53:05 AM

Do not flame me for saying this, but if we continue finding workarounds for these problems, merchants will not need to receive Bitcoin directly. We do not want to rely on 3rd party services to be able to

use Bitcoin. I had the same problem with a local pub, and I worked at them for weeks... they now accept BTC as payment and in reward, I arrange Bitcoin meetups at their place. We have to go the

extra mile to get what we want, but workarounds should be our last resort. Roll Eyes

My goal is on the spending side. To show that you can drop your bank, get paid only in bitcoins and be able to live on that. I did find another way to buy my groceries online with bitcoins but this one would be a bit more convenient.

I will contact them directly though to see if they can look into it though.

If people are able to live on bitcoins, then more stores will understand that this is a typical payment method and then they will start providing it as an option. Chicken and egg thing...unless you're a business, this is the way you can push forward your side of the equation.

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Coinbase just released something on their website that says you can now use your debit card and credit card to buy bitcoins from them.
Is this new? I just got that message popup for the first time i have seen this message before.

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Do not flame me for saying this, but if we continue finding workarounds for these problems, merchants will not need to receive Bitcoin directly. We do not want to rely on 3rd party services to be able to

use Bitcoin. I had the same problem with a local pub, and I worked at them for weeks... they now accept BTC as payment and in reward, I arrange Bitcoin meetups at their place. We have to go the

extra mile to get what we want, but workarounds should be our last resort. Roll Eyes

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Paypal have more limitations with unverified account so its important to get paypal account verified. And for verification paypal needs Bank account. Even still can use for making payment via debit card under limitations.

Or can use service that offers debit card to load with bitcoins. This can help you access paypal by linking debit card for payments.

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PayPal does allow you to have an account without a bank account attached to it and you could use one of the Bitcoin converter sites to exchange your Bitcoins into a PayPal balance and use this to pay for your food. But be careful because some businesses require that the customers are using verified PayPal accounts probably for protection purposes. Better to find out if they do require a verified account before paying. Another way of approaching this is to get a Neteller account and after funding it with Bitcoin to use their free virtual debit cards to do the transactions.

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If you google it you can come up with some articles from 2014 like
http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/26/technology/paypal-bitcoin/index.html

It mentions that it allows payments from BitPay, Coinbase and GoCoin
but I've never seen this implemented anywhere.
Has anyone actually seen a shop that had this set up?
I was under the impression that your paypal account would be locked if they saw you doing anything related to BTC?

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Quote from: SAMKUSH on July 28, 2016, 08:29:23 AM

Quote from: Elwar on July 28, 2016, 08:04:13 AM

So I found a local food store that I can buy all of my food online and have it delivered for 1.50. I've been trying some different ways of paying for food with bitcoins and this looks like the best way to go. Unfortunately they only take credit card or PayPal as payment.

I know of a few services that will send money to your PayPal account in exchange for bitcoins but when I go to pay at the food site it asks me to log into my PayPal account to pay. Unfortunately it does not just provide a PayPal address.

In theory I can just exchange my bitcoins for PayPal and pay for my food that way but that seems like a roundabout way of doing things and my ultimate goal is to drop all of my bank accounts (does PayPal allow you to have an account with no bank account?).

Is there a more direct solution?

You can create a PayPal account without a bank accounts this may be the easiest option for you. Just be careful as non verified Paypal accounts have certain limits on what you can spend each month, you need to make sure that your total spending per month does not exceed these limits.

Hhahahah useless suggestion,dude. create PayPal without verified with specified data, it's just only waste some of your time to create the PayPal and it's will very useless soon. maybe better to create and verified the paypal account with bank account or official data.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on July 28, 2016, 08:06:10 AM

ask them whether they accept debit card or not,as i know if some stores did accept credit card they'll accept debit card too,after that you can order a plastic bitcoin debit card then load your money into it and finally you're able to use it everywhere
some of this bitcoin debit card also could be used to verify paypal account

@OP This is probably your best option, I know that there are some ways you can set up Bitcoin debit cards and if you can find a way to get it on their site and pay through that then you might consider that as being a viable alternative.

Having a Bitcoin debit card would also save you the hassle of having to go and get one later for one reason or another, and frees up a lot of things and gives you more options when making purchases in the future.

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Quote from: Edwardard on July 28, 2016, 08:50:37 AM

Quote from: Elwar on July 28, 2016, 08:04:13 AM

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Is there a more direct solution?

you should contact the support of that online food store and ask for their paypal account email to pay and order your food manually without logging into their website. but it also depends upon the store if they do such deals. you should also tell this whole story to them about why do you need their paypal to pay manually. hopefully this method should work for you. good luck.

That might work.

I thought I saw somewhere that PayPal merchants can accept bitcoins if the choose to do so.

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use credit card ummm maybe debit and load it with bitcoins.
thank me if will work

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You can exchange your bitcoin to PayPal funds and buy whatever you want. You may get some extra cash if you managed to sell for high rates like + %5 or more
AFAIK you can use PayPal without linking a bank account.

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I have a bitcoin debit card but have never used it. I have a euro card and only tried it in the US and it didn't work.

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Quote from: ranochigo on July 28, 2016, 08:56:06 AM

Quote from: 155UE on July 28, 2016, 08:53:01 AM

There must be a service that allow you to transfer your bitcoins to a credit card.
I have seen the bitcoin debit cards so why not a credit card? Huh

Credit cards are basically cards which the spendings are paid on the ending period of the month for the card holder while a debit card spends the money that is on the debit card. Bitcoin credit card is nearly impossible since only banks would offer credit cards.

AFAIK nope. However, if they accept Visa, Mastercard etc, you can probably get a debit card and it would work. There is no reason for them to not accept debit cards.

Banks now offer debit cards that are affiliated with mastercard now. My bank just sent me an update to their new debit cards and it had the mastercard logo on it.
So hopefully bitcoin debit cards go in this direction too because these are fairly new to the banking world from what I have seen so far.

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Quote from: mobnepal on July 28, 2016, 09:42:40 AM

There are lots of bitcoin debit card which you can just connect with your paypal account and spend. Even here in Nepal paypal only allow sending or paying and bitcoin debit card have become handy for me to pay online without worrying about verifcation etc. I haven't paid for food however i am paying for hosting, domain, vps etc without any problem.

Bitcoin debit card sounds like a good example of use.

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There are lots of bitcoin debit card which you can just connect with your paypal account and spend. Even here in Nepal paypal only allow sending or paying and bitcoin debit card have become handy for me to pay online without worrying about verifcation etc. I haven't paid for food however i am paying for hosting, domain, vps etc without any problem.

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