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legendary
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Lets get back to origin of this topic - I think there will be no casinos that will add junior MMA to their sports betting session. The reason for that I think is pretty simple, it is really hard to make a prediction, or to even build a logic how to form odds. Junior MMA isnt as popular as other adult martial arts competitions and fights. How can bookmaker decide who is favorite and who is underdog, when those kids have 0 or only pair of fight experience. For casinos, it will be same random outcome as for gamblers. Such betting will be to risky for business.
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What regulations should regulator casino or bettor should follow? I dont get it. Could you please explain.

Imo, we should not pay major attention to age factor. Fact that they are underaged should not make any difference for betting. We should not focus our attention on injuries that they can get. Athletes can get injury in any sport. When people say that underaged should not participate because of injuries, think of artistic gymnastics. No one prohibits to bet on it during Olympic games. But female athletes, that participate, are always underaged (because body is more flexible at such an age). Those girl who participate are from 14 years of old (some even cheat their age to participate at early age). And 18 is considered an age of retirement already. However nobody complain about underaged, injuries, and betting.
Regulator comes from the government who watch and monitor casino. Casino and bettor should follow the rules from the regulator if they don't want to get a problem. If casino have a bet list of junior MMA, they should see the regulations if that is acceptable or not. They can not just place a bet without checking the rules because they can get the problem later.

Do you watch MMA fight? How  rude they play? What will happen if children copy that and doing the same thing for their opponent? We know children can not have fully control over themselves especially when they become angry. They should do the same thing and will beat their opponent. That can cause serious injuries. Besides that, they are not yet 18 so it is better if Junior MMA is not show in the prime time because that can make other children do the same with their friend in their environment.

I dont watch MMA or martial arts sports a lot. But when you send your children to learn and train martial arts, you should be prepared that during learning and training, your kid will get punched, kicked, and he would do the same to a kid in front of him. You cant learn and master a skill only from theory and practice. Skill usage is necesseary. Dont compare professional MMA fighters, whos job is to win and receive injuries with amateur fights. Both, in pro and in amateur fights, there is a referee, who gives a little more time for action in pros, and immediately stops a fight when he sees injury is coming. Besides a referee, there is always a doctor in such tournaments. It is not a barbaric fight where death is the only reason to end the fight.
For the children's MMA fighting, the rules are strict and they ensure there are factors of safety to avoid what some mature people suffer in the ring. The handlers are professionals and they know the fragility of children, that is why it is more of a sport than a real fight, so the chance of severe injuries or death is always very low, except if the child has some health issues that were not known or nature just happened negatively.

As for the parents, yes, they know what they signed for. But what I love the government to ensure is that the children willfully and honourably accept such a profession and not the parents forcing it on them for money. Some parents can be cruel, that is what I will never support even if the sport is painless.
legendary
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MMA is a violent sport where the athletes engage in brutal combats that can lead to injuries and potential health risks, finding out that there's a junior MMA breaks my heart because those kids are way too young to be involved in all of that. This just tells you the monstrousity of some people, they can comfortable sit down and watch kids beat each other up just so they can be entertained and make money from it. I don't think this is legal therefore no gambling site would think of sponsoring it in order for their reputation not to be tarnished.

What do you suggest then? Close all martial arts gyms and let people +18 only to enter them? You see this situation with an influence of seeing professional get injured during fights. But I doubt that kids get many real injuries during such fights. Just a logical chain. Before fight, kids need to train. I think we all agree to that. I think we will also agree that to participate in such fight, a kid needs to have more than 1 training session. I see it following - before having a fight, kids spend months training martial arts. Usually they have training 2-3 times a week. You can prepare for a fight without sparing. What I am trying to say, that kids have more chances to get injured during training (because they have more training sessions) than during a fight. In addition, during fight there is a referee that look after kids. During sparing, there are multiple pair of kids who spar and only one or two trainers to look after them.

Nevertheless, there is nothing extra good from such junior mma fights, but kids (boys) need to learn how to protect themselves and be ready to use such knowledge if really needed. Otherwise ban all sports for kids, because injury can be received at any sports and anytime.
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MMA is a violent sport where the athletes engage in brutal combats that can lead to injuries and potential health risks, finding out that there's a junior MMA breaks my heart because those kids are way too young to be involved in all of that. This just tells you the monstrousity of some people, they can comfortable sit down and watch kids beat each other up just so they can be entertained and make money from it. I don't think this is legal therefore no gambling site would think of sponsoring it in order for their reputation not to be tarnished.
legendary
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I dont watch MMA or martial arts sports a lot. But when you send your children to learn and train martial arts, you should be prepared that during learning and training, your kid will get punched, kicked, and he would do the same to a kid in front of him. You cant learn and master a skill only from theory and practice. Skill usage is necesseary. Dont compare professional MMA fighters, whos job is to win and receive injuries with amateur fights. Both, in pro and in amateur fights, there is a referee, who gives a little more time for action in pros, and immediately stops a fight when he sees injury is coming. Besides a referee, there is always a doctor in such tournaments. It is not a barbaric fight where death is the only reason to end the fight.
If that is about train martial arts in the martial art centers, I already prepare many things for my children. Besides that, many trainers who will train children, not just my children but also the other children so that will not be a serious injury. But we talk about MMA which is different from other martial arts. If those children want to be junior MMA fighter, they must be trained harder than the others and they can receive injuries. They will face more challenges when they are in competitions and fight with other fighters so it can be hard for them to control their emotions. I will be fine if my children are in the martial arts because they will wear a body protector that can prevent them from serious injuries.

Why do you say that MMA is different if it is a combination or martial art styles. You can train only boxing and fight in MMA, you can train aikido and still fight in MMA. What is the difference? I will repeat once again, such real mma fight is like an exam for what they have learned and trained for. And as far as I know, everyone trains equally. The difference is, there are kids that want to go further and have a real fight, when others only want to train. From the other side, what is the point of training, when you are not even close to using your skills? When the have such amateur fights, it means they want to connect their lives with fighting seriously. If a kid does not want a future of a fighter, trainer will never send him for a real fight. And when you say about injuries, then isnt such fight is a test how you prepared to avoid those injuries?
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Is there any gambling site that allow or sponsor junior MMA bets? I have no Idea but to be honest i just barely knew that there is a junior MMA I thought MMA only for big men this is new.
Second your link is dead but I just do quick google search found similar fight with the young boy.

and found this on google

The age for junior mixed martial arts (MMA) varies by organization and competition, but is generally between 8 and 21 years old:
IMMAF: The IMMAF (International Mixed Martial Arts Federation) has the following age categories for competition:
Youth C: 12–13 years old
Youth B: 14–15 years old
Youth A: 16–17 years old
Juniors: Under 21 years old
Seniors: 18 years old and above
MPR Endurance: MPR Endurance's Junior MMA program is for ages 8–13.
GR MMA: GR MMA's Jr. MMA program is for ages 7–15 - https://www.google.com/search?q=junior+mma+age&oq=junior+mma+age
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I dont watch MMA or martial arts sports a lot. But when you send your children to learn and train martial arts, you should be prepared that during learning and training, your kid will get punched, kicked, and he would do the same to a kid in front of him. You cant learn and master a skill only from theory and practice. Skill usage is necesseary. Dont compare professional MMA fighters, whos job is to win and receive injuries with amateur fights. Both, in pro and in amateur fights, there is a referee, who gives a little more time for action in pros, and immediately stops a fight when he sees injury is coming. Besides a referee, there is always a doctor in such tournaments. It is not a barbaric fight where death is the only reason to end the fight.
If that is about train martial arts in the martial art centers, I already prepare many things for my children. Besides that, many trainers who will train children, not just my children but also the other children so that will not be a serious injury. But we talk about MMA which is different from other martial arts. If those children want to be junior MMA fighter, they must be trained harder than the others and they can receive injuries. They will face more challenges when they are in competitions and fight with other fighters so it can be hard for them to control their emotions. I will be fine if my children are in the martial arts because they will wear a body protector that can prevent them from serious injuries.
legendary
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What regulations should regulator casino or bettor should follow? I dont get it. Could you please explain.

Imo, we should not pay major attention to age factor. Fact that they are underaged should not make any difference for betting. We should not focus our attention on injuries that they can get. Athletes can get injury in any sport. When people say that underaged should not participate because of injuries, think of artistic gymnastics. No one prohibits to bet on it during Olympic games. But female athletes, that participate, are always underaged (because body is more flexible at such an age). Those girl who participate are from 14 years of old (some even cheat their age to participate at early age). And 18 is considered an age of retirement already. However nobody complain about underaged, injuries, and betting.
Regulator comes from the government who watch and monitor casino. Casino and bettor should follow the rules from the regulator if they don't want to get a problem. If casino have a bet list of junior MMA, they should see the regulations if that is acceptable or not. They can not just place a bet without checking the rules because they can get the problem later.

Do you watch MMA fight? How  rude they play? What will happen if children copy that and doing the same thing for their opponent? We know children can not have fully control over themselves especially when they become angry. They should do the same thing and will beat their opponent. That can cause serious injuries. Besides that, they are not yet 18 so it is better if Junior MMA is not show in the prime time because that can make other children do the same with their friend in their environment.

I dont watch MMA or martial arts sports a lot. But when you send your children to learn and train martial arts, you should be prepared that during learning and training, your kid will get punched, kicked, and he would do the same to a kid in front of him. You cant learn and master a skill only from theory and practice. Skill usage is necesseary. Dont compare professional MMA fighters, whos job is to win and receive injuries with amateur fights. Both, in pro and in amateur fights, there is a referee, who gives a little more time for action in pros, and immediately stops a fight when he sees injury is coming. Besides a referee, there is always a doctor in such tournaments. It is not a barbaric fight where death is the only reason to end the fight.
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What regulations should regulator casino or bettor should follow? I dont get it. Could you please explain.

Imo, we should not pay major attention to age factor. Fact that they are underaged should not make any difference for betting. We should not focus our attention on injuries that they can get. Athletes can get injury in any sport. When people say that underaged should not participate because of injuries, think of artistic gymnastics. No one prohibits to bet on it during Olympic games. But female athletes, that participate, are always underaged (because body is more flexible at such an age). Those girl who participate are from 14 years of old (some even cheat their age to participate at early age). And 18 is considered an age of retirement already. However nobody complain about underaged, injuries, and betting.
Regulator comes from the government who watch and monitor casino. Casino and bettor should follow the rules from the regulator if they don't want to get a problem. If casino have a bet list of junior MMA, they should see the regulations if that is acceptable or not. They can not just place a bet without checking the rules because they can get the problem later.

Do you watch MMA fight? How  rude they play? What will happen if children copy that and doing the same thing for their opponent? We know children can not have fully control over themselves especially when they become angry. They should do the same thing and will beat their opponent. That can cause serious injuries. Besides that, they are not yet 18 so it is better if Junior MMA is not show in the prime time because that can make other children do the same with their friend in their environment.
legendary
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But if some casinos want to give a bet for junior MMA, they must know that this fight is under 18 so they must follow regulation from regulator before they give this option for gamblers.

What regulations should regulator casino or bettor should follow? I dont get it. Could you please explain.

Imo, we should not pay major attention to age factor. Fact that they are underaged should not make any difference for betting. We should not focus our attention on injuries that they can get. Athletes can get injury in any sport. When people say that underaged should not participate because of injuries, think of artistic gymnastics. No one prohibits to bet on it during Olympic games. But female athletes, that participate, are always underaged (because body is more flexible at such an age). Those girl who participate are from 14 years of old (some even cheat their age to participate at early age). And 18 is considered an age of retirement already. However nobody complain about underaged, injuries, and betting.
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Although I don't like kids fighting, MMA for kids is meant for sports. Just like taekwondo or boxing. Yes, we know how brutal MMA fights are. But if it is considered a sport, it should be supervised better for younger age groups. The rules for training and competitions should be supervised and made well. Anyway, MMA fights are becoming more popular. And it can motivate kids to learn early to become MMA fighters.

At a young age, I just hope it is made a sport and there will be no betting markets listing MMA fights for kids.
If that is for sports, I don't mind to see kids fighting in MMA. But we know that MMA sports have less rules than taekwondo or boxing or other martial arts events. That kids should have learn control better so they will not make their opponent have serious injuries. In their ages, they can lose control easily especially if they are beaten by the opponent too often. That can makes them anger easily which and beat or kicks their opponent brutally.

Hopefully, no betting sites for junior MMA and only the match that is available on some program tv but that should be in the night where kids are already sleep. That will not make them watch the fights.

I have seen that in the amateur fights and sadly, some of them can't recover anymore as that blow have been vital and able to hit some of their important pulse or joints.

Anyway, if the fight becomes professional and there are some referees and medical team on the side ready to assist, that will do the thing but there's still no guarantee if the hit becomes so vital.
Hopefully, referees and medical team and other people involved will take care of the match and make sure there is no kids have serious injuries.

The kids itself must wear protection for their bodies to prevent the  injuries because that fights can be brutal reminding they can lose their control in the match.
But if some casinos want to give a bet for junior MMA, they must know that this fight is under 18 so they must follow regulation from regulator before they give this option for gamblers.
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But to be honest, at least in my country, I have seen some fights in tiktok about as young as 10 or 12 years old and just fighting on the street. It could be some tradition on their village. And that setup is that there is a referee and others in the crowd too.
As long as these kind fight or tradition aren't used to gamble, it's all fine. People will see it's just a normal thing, where the kids doing that just for fun or learn something, not necessary it's all about money.

Gambling is for people who're at least 17 years old, it's not only for the gamblers, but also with the fighters or players. It's kind of exploitation if we're betting on underage sports.
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A lot of people forgot, that before the fight happens, coach always ask his student if he is ready, wants to test himself in a real fight and not in sparring and so on. Nobody forces those kids to fight. For many kids, coach is like a second father or mother. If coach is adequate and is not a complete degenerate, he will either throw towel or will remove his fighter from the battle if he sees and feels like opponent is much stronger and it will be mismatch and beating.

And Kemarit has touched a nice point of discussion below. What if casino is one of the sponsors of such tournament or league. No doubt that kids wont fight for money on purpose (means they wont make as their income), but they will be very happy to receive a reward after, not just a congratulation certificate and a cup.
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I'm not sure if there is one site that allow or sponsor this kind of junior MMA bets.

But to be honest, at least in my country, I have seen some fights in tiktok about as young as 10 or 12 years old and just fighting on the street. It could be some tradition on their village. And that setup is that there is a referee and others in the crowd too.

If they see that the fight is just one sided, or the fight is a mismatch, they are going to stop it regardless if the other side want more action. This is to the safety of the kids and I haven't heard of any physical or even death as a result of this kind of fights.
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That's what's surprising because it's clearly child abuse, in which the owner of MMA can even be charged, unless the photo was edited and the photo of the two children who fight.
And that's really dangerous at ages like that who are not yet adults; it's even a pity if it's true that something like that is really happening at this age. But I hope that is not really true.

It's not good to see young children being used when the only ones who can watch are adults who are betting on those children just because they like to gamble, something that can no longer
be considered right and normal.



Honestly, I dont get why you call it a child abuse. When someone starts to train any sports, it is suggested to start from at an early age. Tournament is one of the ways to check if you are doing great in any sport. Sport is different. Some train martial arts, some do dancing, some play chess or swim. Without a help and watch of professionals, any sport can be dangerous. What is bad from those who train martial arts test what they have learned? Or you think those who train should only do shadow boxing/fighting, perform Kata? Take football for example, you want kids only to learn how to dribble, and shoot at a goal when there is no goalkeeper in? Because goalie can get hit by ball for example.

As to betting on junior MMA. Children should not be stimulated by bets. If someone find out his is an underdog by bookmakers, that will affect his performance for sure. Bookmakers should not force children to fight more and more, because there are many who wants to bet. But there is really not that much of a bad thing to bet on junior MMA. I would have skipped, because not much interested in a fighting. But it isnt different from betting on junior chess tournament honestly.
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I didn't even know that MMA had a junior division, first of all it's a deadly sport meaning that it's possible for fatal accidents to happen even if safety precautions are been taken.i don't think this is ideal based on age factors, it's an illegal business that might put the organizers of this in a whole lot of trouble. I'm pretty sure that they are no gambling site that will sponsor this because it's obviously child abuse because we are talking about underage kids here...This is going to fold up very soon, it's not right for them to use kids for their entertainment.

I fully and agree with your arguments against the introduction of a junior division in MMA, as it is on account of circumstances that surrounded various conflicts. Such an allocation touches the highest and most serious questions of ethical and safety when presented to young children. We should therefore take to heart the welfare of our young athletes and not expose them to danger.

Sports have great scope to provide discipline, teamwork, and confidence in children. However, at all times, it should be safe and age appropriate for the child. Forcing minors into such exploitative companies for entertainment or profit is highly disturbing and may also affect the organizers legally.

Regulators and parents need to support more effective alternatives. It involves the youth in exercise and skill development without costing their safety. Hopefully, enough response from the community can be seen that prevents the plan from going through.


That's what's surprising because it's clearly child abuse, in which the owner of MMA can even be charged, unless the photo was edited and the photo of the two children who fight.
And that's really dangerous at ages like that who are not yet adults; it's even a pity if it's true that something like that is really happening at this age. But I hope that is not really true.

It's not good to see young children being used when the only ones who can watch are adults who are betting on those children just because they like to gamble, something that can no longer
be considered right and normal.


I see your surprise and concern about the situation. It is disturbing to think that children could be placed in such horrific conditions. And the potential for child abuse in such situations is alarming. Whether or not the photos are real raises serious ethical and legal questions for those involved. Including those responsible for such events.

Use of children for adult entertainment Especially in a dangerous sport like MMA, it's not only inappropriate. This is morally unacceptable. The fact that there may be adults gambling on these races adds to the exploitation further. We must support stronger laws to protect young athletes. and ensure that their safety and well-being are more important than entertainment or profit.

I sincerely hope this is not a widespread truth. and officials will take steps to prevent such incidents from occurring It is important that we protect our youth and ensure they can participate in sport in a safe and ethical manner.
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I didn't even know that MMA had a junior division, first of all it's a deadly sport meaning that it's possible for fatal accidents to happen even if safety precautions are been taken.i don't think this is ideal based on age factors, it's an illegal business that might put the organizers of this in a whole lot of trouble. I'm pretty sure that they are no gambling site that will sponsor this because it's obviously child abuse because we are talking about underage kids here...This is going to fold up very soon, it's not right for them to use kids for their entertainment.

That's what's surprising because it's clearly child abuse, in which the owner of MMA can even be charged, unless the photo was edited and the photo of the two children who fight.
And that's really dangerous at ages like that who are not yet adults; it's even a pity if it's true that something like that is really happening at this age. But I hope that is not really true.

It's not good to see young children being used when the only ones who can watch are adults who are betting on those children just because they like to gamble, something that can no longer
be considered right and normal.

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Couldn't help but wonder that with the set up, the kit and display of fighting skills by these fighter as well as the organization of the organizers, that the fight may have some background bettors betting on their favourite kid to win without a care for the law of the state against junior matches and betting on these children as well.

*Are there any  known gambling sites that allow or are there clearly laid out rules against betting on junior MMA fights in your region or in any region you know of?

For any casino, whether online or offline, to allow their users to bet on such fights like this, or even take a step further to sponsoring it simply means the casino is supporting underaged gambling, which is a major crime in almost every part of the world, in most places that I know of, teenagers are to be above the Age of 18, to 19 to 20 years before they can participate in any thing gambling related.

So, the find an MMA match where kids under the age of 18 and allowed to fight themselves is a pure abuse if you ask me., those kids are being used by some people behind the scene to make money for themselves, and I highly doubt that they would want to take such a match to the casinos for listing and for the public to begin betting on such games.
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Yes, protective gear indeed.

So, there seems to be a consensus and opinions meeting in the middle about this is just fine as long as there are protective gear while they do it. And one strong blow should be the end of the match.

I don't know actually, you'll never know how dangerous are these because I've seen amateur fights that ended up badly. But then, an opinion is an opinion, all have points though.
One strong blow can change everything and that child can get serious injuries which can affect to his future. We don't know how good those children control themselves while they fight with their opponent. Even if they can control their emotion, they can become unstable to handle their anger because they are still young and can trigger by many things to make their emational.

I have seen some younger fights in the street and harm many of them and have serious injuries to some children around that fight. But even that fight in the MMA competitions, that still dangerous to them. Hopefully, the government pay attention to this and will not allow that competitions to children.
I have seen that in the amateur fights and sadly, some of them can't recover anymore as that blow have been vital and able to hit some of their important pulse or joints.

Anyway, if the fight becomes professional and there are some referees and medical team on the side ready to assist, that will do the thing but there's still no guarantee if the hit becomes so vital.
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I've seen kids training while they're young but not into this kind of sport. Whoever gave a permission for this are to be blamed and the first people that I can think of are these kids' parents'.

Sportsbook shouldn't tolerate this and shouldn't put it into their books neither give any of these kids a sponsor to discourage that there's no sense doing this whether for passion or for money.

Stop. You want to blame parents because the have send their kids into such kind of sport? The whole idea of the sport these kids are in is fighting. I see nothing wrong if kids train martial arts, nothing wrong if they compete. After all, there is a referee in the cage that will save them from serious danger. Bleeding nose, black eyes, that is ok if your kid trains martial arts. If you have opposite opinion, then at what age should they start training? In my town, martial arts welcome kids starting from 7 years. They dont fight each other at such age, but at 10+ they already participate in competitions. And did you know, that in many martial arts, you cant get a black belt, if you dont participate in tournaments and win them.

But what I dont support is betting on junior martial arts competitions. Whenever someone looses a bet, he will always blame a fighter he has bet on. That is wrong, as they are young, inexperienced amateurs.
I agree with you, although most parents will definitely forbid their children from fighting, but if the child has a passion for something like this, then parents must support them as long as they fight officially with a referee as the mediator. I think MMA for juniors is not entirely wrong, because what you said is true, self-defense is something that each of us must have, even for some people they consider this important. In my own country, there are very strict laws, but for some parents, this martial art requires their children to learn it, even when they are not old enough, it doesn't matter, because they think self-defense must be learned to protect themselves. I think that with their parents who work as soldiers, they will usually educate their children to be able to learn martial arts, or indeed for parents who work as martial arts teachers, of course their children will be educated to be able to defend themselves from an early age.

I will never believe that there is a legal promotion, that will allow kids to fight till death or serious injury. I wont believe that there would such a cruel manager, promotion owner or referee, that wont stop a fight when one kid is about to do a serious damage to another. I think that most of the kids, when they see opponent has blood from bleeding nose or lip will point referee on that, as well as injured kid will stop fight and will think of surrender when he sees his own blood.

Now about gambling, I believe that such junior mma fights or any other martial arts tournaments are not so popular to get into betting list. Even though they are named as national, or country, or universe tournament, they arent very popular in general for audience. Bookmakers I think wont add to a list of betting a tournament, where each kid is unknown, and people would make 1 or 2 bets during whole tournament.
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