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Quote from: DaNNy001 on October 05, 2024, 11:03:36 AM

I didn't even know that MMA had a junior division, first of all it's a deadly sport meaning that it's possible for fatal accidents to happen even if safety precautions are been taken.i don't think this is ideal based on age factors, it's an illegal business that might put the organizers of this in a whole lot of trouble. I'm pretty sure that they are no gambling site that will sponsor this because it's obviously child abuse because we are talking about underage kids here...This is going to fold up very soon, it's not right for them to use kids for their entertainment.

That's what's surprising because it's clearly child abuse, in which the owner of MMA can even be charged, unless the photo was edited and the photo of the two children who fight.
And that's really dangerous at ages like that who are not yet adults; it's even a pity if it's true that something like that is really happening at this age. But I hope that is not really true.

It's not good to see young children being used when the only ones who can watch are adults who are betting on those children just because they like to gamble, something that can no longer
be considered right and normal.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on October 01, 2024, 04:19:00 PM

Couldn't help but wonder that with the set up, the kit and display of fighting skills by these fighter as well as the organization of the organizers, that the fight may have some background bettors betting on their favourite kid to win without a care for the law of the state against junior matches and betting on these children as well.

*Are there any known gambling sites that allow or are there clearly laid out rules against betting on junior MMA fights in your region or in any region you know of?

For any casino, whether online or offline, to allow their users to bet on such fights like this, or even take a step further to sponsoring it simply means the casino is supporting underaged gambling, which is a major crime in almost every part of the world, in most places that I know of, teenagers are to be above the Age of 18, to 19 to 20 years before they can participate in any thing gambling related.

So, the find an MMA match where kids under the age of 18 and allowed to fight themselves is a pure abuse if you ask me., those kids are being used by some people behind the scene to make money for themselves, and I highly doubt that they would want to take such a match to the casinos for listing and for the public to begin betting on such games.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 06, 2024, 01:19:52 AM

Quote from: jossiel on October 05, 2024, 06:34:37 PM

Yes, protective gear indeed.

So, there seems to be a consensus and opinions meeting in the middle about this is just fine as long as there are protective gear while they do it. And one strong blow should be the end of the match.

I don't know actually, you'll never know how dangerous are these because I've seen amateur fights that ended up badly. But then, an opinion is an opinion, all have points though.

One strong blow can change everything and that child can get serious injuries which can affect to his future. We don't know how good those children control themselves while they fight with their opponent. Even if they can control their emotion, they can become unstable to handle their anger because they are still young and can trigger by many things to make their emational.

I have seen some younger fights in the street and harm many of them and have serious injuries to some children around that fight. But even that fight in the MMA competitions, that still dangerous to them. Hopefully, the government pay attention to this and will not allow that competitions to children.

I have seen that in the amateur fights and sadly, some of them can't recover anymore as that blow have been vital and able to hit some of their important pulse or joints.

Anyway, if the fight becomes professional and there are some referees and medical team on the side ready to assist, that will do the thing but there's still no guarantee if the hit becomes so vital.

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Quote from: junder on October 04, 2024, 09:01:13 PM

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Quote from: jossiel on October 02, 2024, 06:32:51 PM

I've seen kids training while they're young but not into this kind of sport. Whoever gave a permission for this are to be blamed and the first people that I can think of are these kids' parents'.

Sportsbook shouldn't tolerate this and shouldn't put it into their books neither give any of these kids a sponsor to discourage that there's no sense doing this whether for passion or for money.

Stop. You want to blame parents because the have send their kids into such kind of sport? The whole idea of the sport these kids are in is fighting. I see nothing wrong if kids train martial arts, nothing wrong if they compete. After all, there is a referee in the cage that will save them from serious danger. Bleeding nose, black eyes, that is ok if your kid trains martial arts. If you have opposite opinion, then at what age should they start training? In my town, martial arts welcome kids starting from 7 years. They dont fight each other at such age, but at 10+ they already participate in competitions. And did you know, that in many martial arts, you cant get a black belt, if you dont participate in tournaments and win them.

But what I dont support is betting on junior martial arts competitions. Whenever someone looses a bet, he will always blame a fighter he has bet on. That is wrong, as they are young, inexperienced amateurs.

I agree with you, although most parents will definitely forbid their children from fighting, but if the child has a passion for something like this, then parents must support them as long as they fight officially with a referee as the mediator. I think MMA for juniors is not entirely wrong, because what you said is true, self-defense is something that each of us must have, even for some people they consider this important. In my own country, there are very strict laws, but for some parents, this martial art requires their children to learn it, even when they are not old enough, it doesn't matter, because they think self-defense must be learned to protect themselves. I think that with their parents who work as soldiers, they will usually educate their children to be able to learn martial arts, or indeed for parents who work as martial arts teachers, of course their children will be educated to be able to defend themselves from an early age.

I will never believe that there is a legal promotion, that will allow kids to fight till death or serious injury. I wont believe that there would such a cruel manager, promotion owner or referee, that wont stop a fight when one kid is about to do a serious damage to another. I think that most of the kids, when they see opponent has blood from bleeding nose or lip will point referee on that, as well as injured kid will stop fight and will think of surrender when he sees his own blood.

Now about gambling, I believe that such junior mma fights or any other martial arts tournaments are not so popular to get into betting list. Even though they are named as national, or country, or universe tournament, they arent very popular in general for audience. Bookmakers I think wont add to a list of betting a tournament, where each kid is unknown, and people would make 1 or 2 bets during whole tournament.

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Never seen yet a casino offering an MMA for junior division and I guess the casino does not support this game too, why? the age of consent even tho its a junior event still there is violence happening right there under the legal age and of for sure the casino knows this thing and they don't want to risk themselves and their company to show this kind of event, its so harsh but even though it's a competitive match title still those are under age and I don't like seeing young one having a dangerous fight.

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always check the reputation of a site when this is the only one offering bets on a certain series of events.
It is easy to run into scams or sites that offer limits on their use.

Another suitable solution I would suggest to OP: open a market on a pvp exchange like polymarket or "oracle" systems like oraclize.
there are others similar too. The only limit is the volume of bets or liquidity. Since these are no "major" events there is a limited interest.

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Honestly, it's sad to think that in this day and age we're going to see one of the most popular fighting sports platforms: kids fighting instead of adults. It's amazing that the MMA owner was allowed to do that. Isn't what they do like abuse?

Instead of those children enjoying their age that they have, that is not what is happening because what they are doing is causing pain and hurting others physically. Or we don't know if those two fighters are facing a difficult life, so they agreed to fight in exchange for money because of the difficulty of life.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 06, 2024, 01:19:52 AM

Quote from: jossiel on October 05, 2024, 06:34:37 PM

Yes, protective gear indeed.

So, there seems to be a consensus and opinions meeting in the middle about this is just fine as long as there are protective gear while they do it. And one strong blow should be the end of the match.

I don't know actually, you'll never know how dangerous are these because I've seen amateur fights that ended up badly. But then, an opinion is an opinion, all have points though.

One strong blow can change everything and that child can get serious injuries which can affect to his future. We don't know how good those children control themselves while they fight with their opponent. Even if they can control their emotion, they can become unstable to handle their anger because they are still young and can trigger by many things to make their emational.

I have seen some younger fights in the street and harm many of them and have serious injuries to some children around that fight. But even that fight in the MMA competitions, that still dangerous to them. Hopefully, the government pay attention to this and will not allow that competitions to children.

Although I don't like kids fighting, MMA for kids is meant for sports. Just like taekwondo or boxing. Yes, we know how brutal MMA fights are. But if it is considered a sport, it should be supervised better for younger age groups. The rules for training and competitions should be supervised and made well. Anyway, MMA fights are becoming more popular. And it can motivate kids to learn early to become MMA fighters.

At a young age, I just hope it is made a sport and there will be no betting markets listing MMA fights for kids.

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Quote from: jossiel on October 05, 2024, 06:34:37 PM

Yes, protective gear indeed.

So, there seems to be a consensus and opinions meeting in the middle about this is just fine as long as there are protective gear while they do it. And one strong blow should be the end of the match.

I don't know actually, you'll never know how dangerous are these because I've seen amateur fights that ended up badly. But then, an opinion is an opinion, all have points though.

One strong blow can change everything and that child can get serious injuries which can affect to his future. We don't know how good those children control themselves while they fight with their opponent. Even if they can control their emotion, they can become unstable to handle their anger because they are still young and can trigger by many things to make their emational.

I have seen some younger fights in the street and harm many of them and have serious injuries to some children around that fight. But even that fight in the MMA competitions, that still dangerous to them. Hopefully, the government pay attention to this and will not allow that competitions to children.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 05, 2024, 01:36:03 AM

Quote from: jossiel on October 04, 2024, 05:11:26 PM

I remember when I was a kid and got involved into streetfights and you're right that there's no referee but only friends that were watching or bystanders that just passed and helping to stop the fight.

So, there are counter measures and some ways of stopping the fight. As long as someone has seen to be incurred with an injury or some blood has been flowing likely on the nose then that's the sign that the fight should be stopped.

That will also happen with that junior if they are fight in MMA. I guess they will have serious injuries in their body and maybe their bone can be harm too. Although they have a fast recovery but that still give something inside their body and their behavior will be change too because they trained to be aggressive. Maybe they can trained to be a master of martial art but not in that fight. Their emotional is not yet stable and they can lose their control when something is disturb them.

It needs attention for their parents so they can know what their children needs and not just follow what their parents wants. Children needs to grow normally like other children and without trained like that, they can also get good achievements. There are many other ways for the children to develop well.

Yes, protective gear indeed.

So, there seems to be a consensus and opinions meeting in the middle about this is just fine as long as there are protective gear while they do it. And one strong blow should be the end of the match.

I don't know actually, you'll never know how dangerous are these because I've seen amateur fights that ended up badly. But then, an opinion is an opinion, all have points though.

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I didn't even know that MMA had a junior division, first of all it's a deadly sport meaning that it's possible for fatal accidents to happen even if safety precautions are been taken.i don't think this is ideal based on age factors, it's an illegal business that might put the organizers of this in a whole lot of trouble. I'm pretty sure that they are no gambling site that will sponsor this because it's obviously child abuse because we are talking about underage kids here...This is going to fold up very soon, it's not right for them to use kids for their entertainment.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on October 05, 2024, 04:39:41 AM

There could be some stricter rules that are not in the adult style, so if any casino offers it, it's nothing so far it is a sport and not a real fight or war. This will even bring more popularity and sponsorship to these kids.

This translates to more money for them.

At some point, I was actually thinking like this but what troubles me is that, despite any strict rules that is attached, the strength and abilities of those children can not be compared to adults and if by chance, there's any slight hit on the wrong point, it could lead to something else, saying. We know how brutal it is at times with the adult boxing and wrestling, talk more of engaging kids in a similar game.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 01, 2024, 04:23:34 PM

People now supporting and betting on underaged kids beating up themselves? People are getting sicker Huh

I do not find this cool myself because I put myself in the shoes of these children, but that is not the case, once it is allowed in any country, it is not illegal, my friend. Fights like that are part of sports and these children and their parents know what they signed up for. It doesn't matter whether it is being played by an adult or a teenager or even lesser age. All that matters is for it to be officiated well to avoid severe injuries.

There could be some stricter rules that are not in the adult style, so if any casino offers it, it's nothing so far it is a sport and not a real fight or war. This will even bring more popularity and sponsorship to these kids.

This translates to more money for them.

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Quote from: jossiel on October 04, 2024, 05:11:26 PM

I remember when I was a kid and got involved into streetfights and you're right that there's no referee but only friends that were watching or bystanders that just passed and helping to stop the fight.

So, there are counter measures and some ways of stopping the fight. As long as someone has seen to be incurred with an injury or some blood has been flowing likely on the nose then that's the sign that the fight should be stopped.

That will also happen with that junior if they are fight in MMA. I guess they will have serious injuries in their body and maybe their bone can be harm too. Although they have a fast recovery but that still give something inside their body and their behavior will be change too because they trained to be aggressive. Maybe they can trained to be a master of martial art but not in that fight. Their emotional is not yet stable and they can lose their control when something is disturb them.

It needs attention for their parents so they can know what their children needs and not just follow what their parents wants. Children needs to grow normally like other children and without trained like that, they can also get good achievements. There are many other ways for the children to develop well.

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Quote from: bakasabo on October 03, 2024, 04:37:35 AM

Quote from: jossiel on October 02, 2024, 06:32:51 PM

I've seen kids training while they're young but not into this kind of sport. Whoever gave a permission for this are to be blamed and the first people that I can think of are these kids' parents'.

Sportsbook shouldn't tolerate this and shouldn't put it into their books neither give any of these kids a sponsor to discourage that there's no sense doing this whether for passion or for money.

Stop. You want to blame parents because the have send their kids into such kind of sport? The whole idea of the sport these kids are in is fighting. I see nothing wrong if kids train martial arts, nothing wrong if they compete. After all, there is a referee in the cage that will save them from serious danger. Bleeding nose, black eyes, that is ok if your kid trains martial arts. If you have opposite opinion, then at what age should they start training? In my town, martial arts welcome kids starting from 7 years. They dont fight each other at such age, but at 10+ they already participate in competitions. And did you know, that in many martial arts, you cant get a black belt, if you dont participate in tournaments and win them.

But what I dont support is betting on junior martial arts competitions. Whenever someone looses a bet, he will always blame a fighter he has bet on. That is wrong, as they are young, inexperienced amateurs.

I agree with you, although most parents will definitely forbid their children from fighting, but if the child has a passion for something like this, then parents must support them as long as they fight officially with a referee as the mediator. I think MMA for juniors is not entirely wrong, because what you said is true, self-defense is something that each of us must have, even for some people they consider this important. In my own country, there are very strict laws, but for some parents, this martial art requires their children to learn it, even when they are not old enough, it doesn't matter, because they think self-defense must be learned to protect themselves. I think that with their parents who work as soldiers, they will usually educate their children to be able to learn martial arts, or indeed for parents who work as martial arts teachers, of course their children will be educated to be able to defend themselves from an early age.

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Quote from: bakasabo on October 04, 2024, 01:26:55 AM

Quote from: jossiel on October 03, 2024, 05:12:55 PM

I see that we have a different opinion on this and there's also local training in your place for as young as 7 years. But these kids, if they get injured, who's to blame?

Unexpected hits might come to them. The pro MMA fighters are even having the worst injuries and some can't even fight anymore because of that.

I'm just trying to be defensive with these kids, it's okay to train and fight but there's lacking based on the source and that's protection equipment for each of them like in the amateur boxing.

During training martial arts, they train not only to hit, but to protect themselves also. As they are kids, nobody would allow them to fight until some of them gets knocked out or chocked. That is why there is a referee. As soon as he notice someone gets a damage, he immediately stops the fight. On the other side, if they have chosen such a hobby, they knew they would receive damage. And how can they test their knowledge without such a test? I am 99,9% sure, that their fight ends as soon as someone gets a bleeding nose. Also, kids on the street do the same, fight each other with open hands and without any referee. Should parents then keep kids at home, because on the street they can get into a fight? Speaking about injuries, I have seen kids get serious injuries just by riding bicycles and skateboards. At martial arts, kids did not get serious injuries, because there is always an adult to look after them.

I remember when I was a kid and got involved into streetfights and you're right that there's no referee but only friends that were watching or bystanders that just passed and helping to stop the fight.

So, there are counter measures and some ways of stopping the fight. As long as someone has seen to be incurred with an injury or some blood has been flowing likely on the nose then that's the sign that the fight should be stopped.

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Quote from: laijsica on October 04, 2024, 04:50:49 AM

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Yes betting can be done through these competitions but this should be taken positively as there should be more motivation requirements for the organizers and may also influence the audience participation more. You should consider it a competition rather than a fight and every competition will have a physical or psychological battle.

I think that these competitions will improve the physical and mental abilities of the children and enable them to participate in bigger events in the future.

Indeed, the main goal of conducting MMA matches for juniors is to prepare them physically and mentally to compete in a bigger MMA event.
Junior MMA like this is a place to pit good skills against each other for aspiring MMA fighters.

And about the bets that are made or some of the gambling sites that sponsor it, I don't think it's going to be legal,
and it's about the protection of minors and about Ethics and morals.

Minors should not be exploited using betting, it is an illegal act and is not allowed.
Online casinos will also not dare to sponsor it, because they know the risks.

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Quote from: Victorybit1 on October 04, 2024, 02:40:29 AM

I don't think there are gambling sites that allow or sponsor this because it's not legal, These are underage kids that are supposed to be in school or something. It's different thing to put them in an academy where they can learn combat techniques but this is actually a sporting event that people are coming together to watch, these isn't legal I bet it's done in an undisclosed location where the feds wouldn't be able to find easily. Watching teenagers beat up themselves isn't sports it's cynical and shouldn't be condoned.

Everyone should be in practice for bodybuilding. If any boys are above 12 years of age I don't see anything wrong with that as they are participating in competitions of their own free will and will gradually become more experienced players with more practice. Yes betting can be done through these competitions but this should be taken positively as there should be more motivation requirements for the organizers and may also influence the audience participation more. You should consider it a competition rather than a fight and every competition will have a physical or psychological battle.

I think that these competitions will improve the physical and mental abilities of the children and enable them to participate in bigger events in the future.

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Quote from: Su-asa on October 03, 2024, 09:35:56 AM

First of all, this shouldn't be legal due to the fact that they are just kids, there's an age rule to all of these. This is something that's done illegally therefore no gambling site is going put This on the list of their games or even sponsor it. MMA isn't a weird sport but this category is actually awkward. These are kids that should be focused on their education and not beating their self up for other people's entertainment. I think if the government knows about this it's going to be shut down completely because it's considered to be illegal.

I was about to say that there are kids in shaolin temples that goes through hardship every day to get stronger, if people like you guys visits you will probably call it abuse, but that's training, not putting them against each other, so you guys are right about this one.

I plan to allow my kid to take karate classes, only if he wants, but that's just for protection, looking at the picture that OP dropped, those kids are going after each others throat, no form of protection is seen in sight, this is child abuse and I am surprised that the law allow such thing to take place.

It seems this world is fading away every year, the bad things are now looking normal is everyone's eye, what is going on? I will never place a bet on such sick idea called sport, this is far from been called a sport.

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I don't think there are gambling sites that allow or sponsor this because it's not legal, These are underage kids that are supposed to be in school or something. It's different thing to put them in an academy where they can learn combat techniques but this is actually a sporting event that people are coming together to watch, these isn't legal I bet it's done in an undisclosed location where the feds wouldn't be able to find easily. Watching teenagers beat up themselves isn't sports it's cynical and shouldn't be condoned.

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