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Quote from: yudi09 on December 26, 2022, 01:17:10 AM

It's getting better (crypto gambling) when compared to fiat gambling. Security issues are always a top priority to consider because they are important.
There are gambling sites that can be accessed without having to use a VPN. Instead of worrying about losing capital, it's better to just deposit if you want to play and withdraw everything when you win. It may seem complicated, but for me it's better.

but sometimes a gambler wants to bet on something new that exists on another platform. so we can't force someone to gamble there. the easier thing is to look at the ToS that has been provided by the gambling party, usually written there to allow or not to allow access using a VPN.
like I bet on several gambling platforms using VPN until today safe and no problem whatsoever. so you don't need to worry about losing funds if you read the ToS before deposit

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

- With crypto, we have great chances to make good money in the future compared to Fiat, although there is risk in crypto and we all know it, that's because of the volatility that crypto has, right?

A lot of people have made a lot of money here because of its volatility, and a lot of investors have also lost their capital because they chose crypto as well. So as risk takers or gambler in gambling here in crypto, we must be careful and wise in choosing.

A good skill of combining trading knowledge to gambling can be a plus to the gambler because it will be better to know when the are likely to lose the value of their deposits and wins when the volatility starts pushing prices downward. But for data breach and security i think that cannot be avoided on crypto gambling sites and the use of VPN is that it could result to blocking especially if it is prohibited on the site

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

- With crypto, we have great chances to make good money in the future compared to Fiat, although there is risk in crypto and we all know it, that's because of the volatility that crypto has, right?

A lot of people have made a lot of money here because of its volatility, and a lot of investors have also lost their capital because they chose crypto as well. So as risk takers or gambler in gambling here in crypto, we must be careful and wise in choosing.

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Quote from: KennyR on December 25, 2022, 10:57:11 PM

Existence of more and more number of cryptocurrency accepted gambling platforms is found high in recent years. This itself shows how positive is the usage of the platforms. To me, it looks like the covid-19 major reason for the transition. As most users said, over time the usage of VPN won't be a problem. Over time the usage of fiat into gambling platforms might come to an end.

Yes, Covid-19 has helped many online businesses experience a significant increase because people tend to order what they need online. Covid-19 has changed the current state of the world, where people are used to using online businesses to help their lives. And the gambling business is also benefiting from Covid-19 as many people are turning to online gambling and it seems they are also enjoying that transition and keeping them in online casinos. The use of fiat in online gambling may be replaced by crypto. The use of crypto has also become more widespread and increasingly recognized by people.

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It's getting better (crypto gambling) when compared to fiat gambling. Security issues are always a top priority to consider because they are important.
There are gambling sites that can be accessed without having to use a VPN. Instead of worrying about losing capital, it's better to just deposit if you want to play and withdraw everything when you win. It may seem complicated, but for me it's better.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

i have never tried using a VPN while gambling, but from several cases that i have seen, many crypto-gambling sites strictly prohibit their users from using VPNs to avoid cheating users. but why do you have to use a VPN, if your country doesn't prohibit gambling? is your country not friendly to gambling? then i think you can ask CS on the gambling site you want to play on, and ask, what VPN they recommend so that you are safe playing on their site.

Well, there are some casinos that do accept that you have and can play using the VPN, it is not a bad thing, however those casinos that do not allow it are better not to, but I think that in the future all casinos will have to accept the use of VPN, the reason is very simple, it is very difficult to say no to money, and that is something that I think few people would say, and those who would say it is because eventually they do not need it, and in any business model it can be done I think that these things should be taken into account, because a casino lives off its people and its players, and if they ban the most potential players it is something that should not be allowed, it is pure business logic.

So are you basically saying that casinos will allow the usage of VPNs so that they can get more users to their website and hence more profits ?
I don't think that will happen because casino's can't officially announce the use of VPNs.
It will be against the regulatory authorities if that country has regulations that do not allow users to gamble.
It can happen unofficially though by not putting any statement related to VPNs on their site but I still think it will involve regulatory risks if a gambling website allows VPNs.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

Never that i Use VPN in gambling online though this isn't bad idea at all, if you think this is safer then use VPN but I think there are many casino that does not allow us to use that because for them this is a way of cheating.
so check the TOS before playing using that mate for your own safeties .

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Quote from: Vaculin on December 25, 2022, 01:28:45 PM

That is why it is really important to take some of our time reading the ToS before agreeing anything on it.

This is important for registering into casino sites or games. If you won't like your identity to be in public or the management to have it you will know what you want to register for. If you have bad attitude this is open for the public or government to trace on you in that registration you have with the casino. It is good to check very well before registering on the casino.

having bad attitude does not permit us to be safer , because in the long run? you will be taken into this trust me.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

i have never tried using a VPN while gambling, but from several cases that i have seen, many crypto-gambling sites strictly prohibit their users from using VPNs to avoid cheating users. but why do you have to use a VPN, if your country doesn't prohibit gambling? is your country not friendly to gambling? then i think you can ask CS on the gambling site you want to play on, and ask, what VPN they recommend so that you are safe playing on their site.

Well, there are some casinos that do accept that you have and can play using the VPN, it is not a bad thing, however those casinos that do not allow it are better not to, but I think that in the future all casinos will have to accept the use of VPN, the reason is very simple, it is very difficult to say no to money, and that is something that I think few people would say, and those who would say it is because eventually they do not need it, and in any business model it can be done I think that these things should be taken into account, because a casino lives off its people and its players, and if they ban the most potential players it is something that should not be allowed, it is pure business logic.

Existence of more and more number of cryptocurrency accepted gambling platforms is found high in recent years. This itself shows how positive is the usage of the platforms. To me, it looks like the covid-19 major reason for the transition. As most users said, over time the usage of VPN won't be a problem. Over time the usage of fiat into gambling platforms might come to an end.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

Firstly you need to read carefully the terms and conditions of the casino site you are using and see if they allow the use of VPN on their site. On the other hand, if you want to hide your IP address completely, then you must use a premium VPN because free VPNs often cannot hide your IP address completely. But if the casino site you are using is legal in your country then you can use VPN because if your account is somehow locked or frozen then you can protect your account by pass kyc there with your NID.

Sorry in advance, I want to ask a question about using a VPN on casino sites.
I and some friends use 2 different online casino sites and have to activate the VPN to be able to open and play on the site because if we don't activate the VPN we cannot enter and access online casinos that we trust.
Of course, we have done this since the first time we tried to play or bet at an online casino.
And my question is, is it possible and are there other ways for us to be able to access or enter to play on a casino site without having to activate the VPN first?

This issue may be because it seems to be restricted to your country. Or your SIM IP address is restricted by your country's government for that site. So in that case you can try using ISP connection or changing DNS to see if the sites work. Like stake.com can't be accessed by my sim's Ip. But I can access it easily through ISP connection without needing any kind of VPN. You can try this way

It doesn't seem like the country I live in has restricted access to online casino sites and SIM IP addresses which are restricted by the government because in my country there are also several online gambling sites which are indeed the owners and managers of my country's citizens too and can be accessed easily without any conditions or limitations.
Regarding using an IPS connection and changing the DNS to be able to access it, I have done it but to no avail, I still can't enter the site.

But in that case you need to stop using this site or access this site using VPN. However, if the site accepts your country's NID document for KYC verification, then there may be no problem using VPN. If necessary, if there is any problem with your account, you will be able to solve the problem of the account by doing KYC verification. So research the site thoroughly before continuing to use a VPN

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Quote from: macson on December 24, 2022, 04:35:35 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

i have never tried using a VPN while gambling, but from several cases that i have seen, many crypto-gambling sites strictly prohibit their users from using VPNs to avoid cheating users. but why do you have to use a VPN, if your country doesn't prohibit gambling? is your country not friendly to gambling? then i think you can ask CS on the gambling site you want to play on, and ask, what VPN they recommend so that you are safe playing on their site.

Well, there are some casinos that do accept that you have and can play using the VPN, it is not a bad thing, however those casinos that do not allow it are better not to, but I think that in the future all casinos will have to accept the use of VPN, the reason is very simple, it is very difficult to say no to money, and that is something that I think few people would say, and those who would say it is because eventually they do not need it, and in any business model it can be done I think that these things should be taken into account, because a casino lives off its people and its players, and if they ban the most potential players it is something that should not be allowed, it is pure business logic.

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Quote from: Vaculin on December 25, 2022, 01:28:45 PM

That is why it is really important to take some of our time reading the ToS before agreeing anything on it.

This is important for registering into casino sites or games. If you won't like your identity to be in public or the management to have it you will know what you want to register for. If you have bad attitude this is open for the public or government to trace on you in that registration you have with the casino. It is good to check very well before registering on the casino.

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Quote from: coinerer on December 25, 2022, 07:15:27 AM

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Quote from: coinerer on December 24, 2022, 09:48:35 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

Firstly you need to read carefully the terms and conditions of the casino site you are using and see if they allow the use of VPN on their site. On the other hand, if you want to hide your IP address completely, then you must use a premium VPN because free VPNs often cannot hide your IP address completely. But if the casino site you are using is legal in your country then you can use VPN because if your account is somehow locked or frozen then you can protect your account by pass kyc there with your NID.

Sorry in advance, I want to ask a question about using a VPN on casino sites.
I and some friends use 2 different online casino sites and have to activate the VPN to be able to open and play on the site because if we don't activate the VPN we cannot enter and access online casinos that we trust.
Of course, we have done this since the first time we tried to play or bet at an online casino.
And my question is, is it possible and are there other ways for us to be able to access or enter to play on a casino site without having to activate the VPN first?

This issue may be because it seems to be restricted to your country. Or your SIM IP address is restricted by your country's government for that site. So in that case you can try using ISP connection or changing DNS to see if the sites work. Like stake.com can't be accessed by my sim's Ip. But I can access it easily through ISP connection without needing any kind of VPN. You can try this way

It doesn't seem like the country I live in has restricted access to online casino sites and SIM IP addresses which are restricted by the government because in my country there are also several online gambling sites which are indeed the owners and managers of my country's citizens too and can be accessed easily without any conditions or limitations.
Regarding using an IPS connection and changing the DNS to be able to access it, I have done it but to no avail, I still can't enter the site.

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Quote from: madnessteat on December 25, 2022, 09:30:34 AM

I would not advise using VPN and other means of anonymization in casinos, the rules of which prohibit the use of such means, because the casino has the right to request user documents at any time.

If you do this for some reason, then you should not keep money on the casino wallet that you are afraid of losing, because violating the rules of the casino you need to be ready to block your account at any time. A refund in such a situation is clearly not worth counting on.

well, this is what I'm also worried about, that casinos can block and freeze user accounts, actually if you really want to be safe and become anonymous users, why not use a decentralized casino, because even if you hide your IP, you can be asked to complete KYC at any time by a casino that have regulations

And on top of it your IP isn't even worth protecting, especially when you compare it to other data that you can lose like your email address. Nobody is going to hack your computer knowing your external IP. You could be accessing Internet via a wireless network like with a phone or being at a neighbor's house or at a restaurant. IP really means shit, unless you're so scared of people knowing your location because they could go there and rob you or something Cheesy

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

First of all check the casino ToS if they are accepting the use of VPN or not because that will govern even though taking consideration of you privacy safety is important. Some casino confiscate casino balance once they find out that you are using VPN while there ToS clearly states that it’s forbidden.

If you check the ToS and it didn’t mention VPN is not allowed then using a premium VPN is really a good choice and I believe many user is doing on a casino that allows it. Just make sure you are using a legit premium VPN or else you might get connected on other userthat doing illegal things on the casino you are using.

I agree. Before you worry about the security, you must know and secure first your account if that specific gambling platform enables the use of VPN so that your balance won't be seized or worse, your whole account will be banned along with the balance in it. That is why it is really important to take some of our time reading the ToS before agreeing anything on it.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

Beware, however, if you plan on using VPN if you want to hide your IP as there are certain prohibitions under the TOS of a gambling website. If they specifically mention the prohibition on the use of VPNs, then you are at risk of your funds in that gambling website since they may confiscate it anytime for breach of their TOS. I

f you have some fears about data breach and security, then better visit a physical casino. If the latter option is not available, then there are various online gambling websites that have been around for years now with proven track-record of their safety and security.

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Quote from: Godday on December 25, 2022, 09:26:20 AM

Currently all gambling sites are indeed being targeted by many users, especially when the World Cup is taking place all online gambling sites are very many users who make bets, but for crypto gambling at this time there are also many users although some still doubt the security of their assets but currently everything is still safe for us to use, for VPN problems we have to check the ToS because some sites still prohibit using VPNs, and also some countries do block casino sites, so we also have to rely on them.

Indeed, things like this make everyone a little confused, I myself often place bets on gambling sites using a VPN, so far I have not encountered a problem that is too risky. Indeed, the ToS of each gambling site is different, so try to always choose gambling sites that are safe and easy to access.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

You need to understand that with centralised system you can't hid your IP for the casino. Have you considered if the casino rules and regulations forbids you to hide such plus if they require you to submit KYC then hidding of VPN or paying of premium sub of it is already defeated from beginning.

Aside from that, OP should also understand that using VPN has nothing to do related to its account being secured while playing on a gambling site.

The security of an account depends on our own way of securing it such as making sure that our used devices aren't harmed by any malicious malware and software. Sometimes, accounts hacked is because of the user's fault.

But if the site itself did the scam attempt, that's a different story and nothing we can do about it.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 23, 2022, 10:16:47 AM

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

You need to understand that with centralised system you can't hid your IP for the casino. Have you considered if the casino rules and regulations forbids you to hide such plus if they require you to submit KYC then hidding of VPN or paying of premium sub of it is already defeated from beginning.

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Quote from: _act_ on December 25, 2022, 04:26:39 AM

When I read the topic, we should not confuse the OP. See what he asked:

I'm replying to the sub-reply that I quoted as the discussion now created related branches of discussion.

I already responded directly to what OP is being asked on the subject.

Quote from: _act_ on December 25, 2022, 04:26:39 AM

Follow what harizen said that you should ask the customer care before using VPN if it is not stated on the gambling site ToS.

Some users are really not that used to reading TOS especially if they saw a long line of statements there. Cheesy

At least by asking customer support directly, users with no effort on search any terms related to the use of VPN will get, at least, the most accurate answer and response, for them to know what should be the drill.

However, there are users that will just decide to use VPN right away as they think it's just fine. In case of account-related problems later on, while using a VPN, their ignorance is not an excuse but rather face the possible consequences.

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Quote from: madnessteat on December 25, 2022, 09:30:34 AM

I would not advise using VPN and other means of anonymization in casinos, the rules of which prohibit the use of such means, because the casino has the right to request user documents at any time.

If you do this for some reason, then you should not keep money on the casino wallet that you are afraid of losing, because violating the rules of the casino you need to be ready to block your account at any time. A refund in such a situation is clearly not worth counting on.

well, this is what I'm also worried about, that casinos can block and freeze user accounts, actually if you really want to be safe and become anonymous users, why not use a decentralized casino, because even if you hide your IP, you can be asked to complete KYC at any time by a casino that have regulations

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