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I saw this post from a famous football influencer on X, I know most of us know him and his information is legit.

Manchester United has failed to provide the necessary fuel involved to transport their player on a 1hr trip to Paris for the Ballon Dor ceremony. Do you think they can't afford the liters of fuel, or their reasons are different?

They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
There is no news of Manchester United getting bankrupt therefore I am going to rule that out. Secondly, are there other news sources that collaborated this story? I guess not. It would be a shame for Manchester United to make such a request because their stocks are doing well. Unless this is just them trying to chase some clout which is not something I think they do. Whatever be the case, it is unheard of for a renown club to make such requests and even if by chance they did, it should not make it to the public. It doesn't say good about the management.
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We can't ignore that Man U is facing challenges now, to the point that the new management ended the annual honorary money paid to Sir Alex Ferguson for his long-term contribution to the club in a bid to reduce operating cost. Notwithstanding, it might not be as bad as the media takes it. Man U might believe they are just two people (Kobbie Mainoo and Alejandro Garnacho) and it might not be the first time clubs are doing it among themselves, this one might merely leak with a different meaning being read to it due to Man U's unfortunate situation.


Sometimes the media sadly projects thigs beyond what they actually means and the general public perceives it in that light and take the information for what they feel and think or believe it is but not all the times this information really turns out true enough, sometimes they are exactly what was intended and the other its not, in the case of this Garnacho and Manio i think there's an unexplained part we are yet o know because its obvious Manchester united may be cutting down on management cost
That is why we should make sure that our stories in the media are good, otherwise, they will twist it so that people will think they have firsthand information that see things that way, but it's just because of traffic, more relevance and gains, I fear the media. It took a wise mind to think it twice and weigh the situation just as I reconsider that it might not be that bad.

I am sure that clubs that are doing well might internally be asking for a favour from others, it doesn't matter. To also cut costs, various rival companies do it in many industries, that is what I call a healthy rivalry. Even in the movie industry, they reach out to themselves to cut costs since their competitors already have it, they will just pay for the service/rent or pay back when the rival later needs their help/service in return.
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We can't ignore that Man U is facing challenges now, to the point that the new management ended the annual honorary money paid to Sir Alex Ferguson for his long-term contribution to the club in a bid to reduce operating cost. Notwithstanding, it might not be as bad as the media takes it. Man U might believe they are just two people (Kobbie Mainoo and Alejandro Garnacho) and it might not be the first time clubs are doing it among themselves, this one might merely leak with a different meaning being read to it due to Man U's unfortunate situation.


Sometimes the media sadly projects thigs beyond what they actually means and the general public perceives it in that light and take the information for what they feel and think or believe it is but not all the times this information really turns out true enough, sometimes they are exactly what was intended and the other its not, in the case of this Garnacho and Manio i think there's an unexplained part we are yet o know because its obvious Manchester united may be cutting down on management cost
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Not only did Manchester United think about sending their two players nominee for the Ballon d'Or as a waste of money, but they have also already thought within themselves that there is no hope of their two players winning the Ballon d'Or award, and there won't be much need to spend huge money on them let them join Manchester City instead that has hopes of winning the Ballon d'Or award. But unlucky for them, Manchester City's private jet is filled up with their four nominees going for the same Ballon d'Or award. This is been seen as a disappointing move by Manchester United to be turned down for this one favor they asked of Manchester City
You've said it all like it is , no MU player can have a chance here, City in their private jet reserve the right of admission, is it really that MU is in such a bad situation as to ask for this type of Favour ? I actually find it hard to Believe , However the Analysis is fine, they won't have any kind of chance , for me this was done to promote the idea that things are the same in all Teams , but we already know what will happen,  I don't believe in the Ballon d'Or , it's too much corruption.
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Manchester United has failed to provide the necessary fuel involved to transport their player on a 1hr trip to Paris for the Ballon Dor ceremony. Do you think they can't afford the liters of fuel, or their reasons are different?

It this really a one hour trip if so I belive the Manchester united can pay that im still quite remember when the Manchester united best football player in uk and Europe but life is full with uncertainty and full with up and down.

But if thet cant afford a private jet then they should just pay a regular commercial airlane in my opinion.

 Is this bankruptcy, insolvency or stingyness? If the mu can make a good move bankrupt iwill most likely to hit their team
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With how big manchester is I have no idea how bankruptcy or insolvency can even be an option. As for stingyness, no idea. I don't have enough knowledge of what goes on with private jets and whatnot and the accommodations for it, but I highly doubt money is an issue. Nor concern for the environment.

Probably something like a petty punishment of sorts?
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They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
The news about Man United wanting to board a Man City plane for the Ballon d'Or event has become a hot topic of conversation in football circles, but it is clear that The Citizens rejected this request.

However, from several sources that I have seen, currently Man United has reasons.
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This news comes at a time when MU management is tightening its belt. Sir Jim Ratcliffe, boss of INEOS, is trying to cut various club expenses.

Renting your own jet is not a wise decision in this situation. Moreover, MU is also trying to reduce its carbon footprint, by finally asking his players to share a flight home from his last international break, especially his Latin players.

Previously, Manchester United management had cut a lot of expenses. Apart from firing hundreds of employees, the contract of the club's global ambassador under Sir Alex Ferguson was also terminated by INEOS.

From the reasons above, in my opinion Man United is not going bankrupt or anything else, but the reason for this policy is not clear, the point is that the MU manager is keeping something secret, perhaps because recently the Man United club has often lost, I think the reason is that managers are reluctant to spend too much money on teams that go to the upcoming Ballon d'Or or managers think it's better to ride, because later they will also lose and it's a waste of spending a lot of money, maybe or for other reasons that we don't know yet.
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I find it difficult to be a bankruptcy and the reasons maybe a lot of them. For example I can conclude from this behavior of the team management that they don't believe any of their players can be called to win the Ballon D'or and so they don't care much about such spendings. I also don't believe any of their players based on team performance is going to win anything so the management is just thinking why spend money in this regard when no returns are gotten from such thing. Normally a team like Manchester United should pay such expenses even if they get no returns as surely they have budget to do so.
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The both clubs are well to do and not just an ordinary football club. Maybe they are just having fun with the Ballon d'Or event by calling out themselves in such manner. Looking at the players in question, I believe they can afford such fare to witness the Ballon d'Or  event themselves all alone even the club too can afford it and looking at the other way round, is it not a sign that one is telling the other that the players are available for sale and the other telling them no we are not interested in your deal.
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Manchester United is a rich football club as long as EPL is concerned but the fact they asked Manchester City for the trip assistance does not mean they can not afford the funds to transport their own delegate for the ceremony at Paris.

So I think it was just a case of managerial considerations so they could save excessive expensive since they only had 2 candidates as mentioned.

They were not really having a full load but just two players for the event, so it was being considered if Manchester City to assist to safe them that expensive resources of flying just two candidates for the event also knowing that the distance is not much.

I just think they had the gut to ask Manchester City for such favour because they are seem as brothers but it was as unfortunate for them that Manchester City flight has already been occupied with their own team members in honoring the ceremony.
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It surely isn't anything you mentioned, it's just their decision to not cooperate with them? I guess. As we could never get to know the real reason, all we can do is speculate but it's no where near the terms which you mentioned like Bankruptcy or Insolvency. Most likely trying to cut out some expenditures, nothing more than that, but in the end, we can only imagine.
Finally had my conclusion though. You are right because the club still has lots of money to manage the club. Recently they bought two players into the team and sacked their previous manager to get another one they had a new contract with the newest manager. The thing is that Manchester United refuses to let their player go to Pars since they are certain that their player doesn't stand a chance to win the award. It's the newest thing now that players and clubs don't like attending the Ballon D Or award if they are not likely to win it. Real Madrid did the same thing and indirectly Manchester United was doing a similar thing.

I don't see a scenario where the City delegates agree for United players to travel on the same plane as them considering the rivalry between both clubs, so I would not understand what motivated the United camp to make sch a request. It only fuels more trolling for them as a club and doesn't solve their immediate problem of how to get their nominated players to the ceremony.

I don't think this is extreme as bankruptcy. Someone on the red side of Manchester likely thought it will be a good idea and show there's no bad blood between the club management despite the obvious long term rivalry.
Manchester City declined their proposal. And I don't see any rivalry between the two teams. They can't be against each other when I suspected Manchester City intentionally gave Manchester United a win at the Emirates FA Cup 2023-24. It's not just making sense for the both clubs to fly on the same plan.
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I saw this post from a famous football influencer on X, I know most of us know him and his information is legit.
Who is this guy you are so confident about his information online? I guess you forgot to add his name.

Also, I wouldn't have believed this because I don't believe random words written on images on social media without a viable source and this particular one is even harder for me to believe if not read it on goal.com. This is pathetic!

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Manchester United has failed to provide the necessary fuel involved to transport their player on a 1hr trip to Paris for the Ballon Dor ceremony. Do you think they can't afford the liters of fuel, or their reasons are different?
They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
We can't ignore that Man U is facing challenges now, to the point that the new management ended the annual honorary money paid to Sir Alex Ferguson for his long-term contribution to the club in a bid to reduce operating cost. Notwithstanding, it might not be as bad as the media takes it. Man U might believe they are just two people (Kobbie Mainoo and Alejandro Garnacho) and it might not be the first time clubs are doing it among themselves, this one might merely leak with a different meaning being read to it due to Man U's unfortunate situation.

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According to the news i have read Manchester United has send their representatives for Ballon d'Or ceremory and they are Alejandro Garnacho and Kobbie Mainoo and because their representatives is only two players then Manchester United thought they can joining the flight with Manchester City and one of the main reason why Manchester United did this because they feel send 2 players using private jet to the Ballon d'Or event is wasting money but unfortunately the flight is full and Manchester City don't have extra seat for these players but indeed after Sir Jim Ratcliffe and INEOS Group in charge they did cost savings policy in Manchester United but considering they are rich team i think this is embarrassing
Not only did Manchester United think about sending their two players nominee for the Ballon d'Or as a waste of money, but they have also already thought within themselves that there is no hope of their two players winning the Ballon d'Or award, and there won't be much need to spend huge money on them let them join Manchester City instead that has hopes of winning the Ballon d'Or award. But unlucky for them, Manchester City's private jet is filled up with their four nominees going for the same Ballon d'Or award. This is been seen as a disappointing move by Manchester United to be turned down for this one favor they asked of Manchester City
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They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.

Probably the matter is not money in this case and  United tries to pave the way for them to Manchester City in the nearest future though there might be different plot, who knows. I'm Manchester City fan and the last thing I could wish to them is to see both players on the board. They are not  from the top-notch class and City's money could find  its way to the better players.
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These clubs have so much money, I doubt it is bankruptcy, insolvency, or stingyness. It seems more like pettiness to me. I’m not familiar with these players or teams but if I had to guess this is a situation with some bad blood behind it. I’m sure the players could afford their own travels as well, so I think there’s more to this story.
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No hard feelings attached from both parties, Manchester United had their personal reason which I believe is pointless. The fact they had to plead show they’re not interested. They should have ignore since they’re not willing because it clearly shows they’re not interested probably due to their poor performance IMO meanwhile Manchester United is one of the richest team as mentioned. At first the news sounded false but looking at the poster it’s kinda complicated secondly Manchester city rejecting this request means a lot, if they had the chance they would have accepted the request, it’s so bad we’ve not gotten the reason why Manchester United will act in such manner aside  the liter of fuel.

We don't know the real reasons behind, but whatever it is, they should have considered the welfare of the players. It is not being stingy or being bankrupt here but need to take care of their players as much as possible. They are the ones giving the revenue they wanted or the fame in every game.
But do remember, people will say something in social media even if we don't know the real reason behind certain decisions
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I think the management of Manchester United don't prioritize the event that's all. To them it's not worth it that's why you are seeing this sort of thing happening. And it is very shameful for Manchester United to act this way. This shows that the Manchester United as a club don't have any plans of sending delegation to the event. It shows lack of support for their own players. These are moments to encourage their players to work harder but they are making it look like they don't care about the ceremony. United have the money but they don't just care. How do they expect their player to be comfortable inside Manchester City plane?

Once a discussion about Manchester United many people attribute this to the club been broke and it is baffling to be honest, how can one say a club like Manchester United cannot afford a private jet for Kobbie Mainoo and Gernacho to Paris, a club that is currently looking to actually build a Billion pounds stadium cannot afford to take their players to an events like this. I can remember them even renting a full private jet take Onana back and forth to Cameroon

It is simply just unnecessary to actually fly this players when you’re neighbor could have space to take them there I don’t see this as anything other than ordinary occurrence
They can afford to build a billion pounds stadium yet cannot afford to rent private jet for their players, this is an indication that the management of Manchester United does not take the welfare of its players serious. The management of Manchester United is weak, they keep making decisions that affects the club's image negatively. It is an insult to read that a big club like Man U cannot rent a private jet for its players. It would have been better that the the management announced to the players that they don't care about the event instead of making a big joke of the club.
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No hard feelings attached from both parties, Manchester United had their personal reason which I believe is pointless. The fact they had to plead show they’re not interested. They should have ignore since they’re not willing because it clearly shows they’re not interested probably due to their poor performance IMO meanwhile Manchester United is one of the richest team as mentioned. At first the news sounded false but looking at the poster it’s kinda complicated secondly Manchester city rejecting this request means a lot, if they had the chance they would have accepted the request, it’s so bad we’ve not gotten the reason why Manchester United will act in such manner aside  the liter of fuel.
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I think the management of Manchester United don't prioritize the event that's all. To them it's not worth it that's why you are seeing this sort of thing happening. And it is very shameful for Manchester United to act this way. This shows that the Manchester United as a club don't have any plans of sending delegation to the event. It shows lack of support for their own players. These are moments to encourage their players to work harder but they are making it look like they don't care about the ceremony. United have the money but they don't just care. How do they expect their player to be comfortable inside Manchester City plane?

Once a discussion about Manchester United many people attribute this to the club been broke and it is baffling to be honest, how can one say a club like Manchester United cannot afford a private jet for Kobbie Mainoo and Gernacho to Paris, a club that is currently looking to actually build a Billion pounds stadium cannot afford to take their players to an events like this. I can remember them even renting a full private jet take Onana back and forth to Cameroon

It is simply just unnecessary to actually fly this players when you’re neighbor could have space to take them there I don’t see this as anything other than ordinary occurrence
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I saw this post from a famous football influencer on X, I know most of us know him and his information is legit.

Manchester United has failed to provide the necessary fuel involved to transport their player on a 1hr trip to Paris for the Ballon Dor ceremony. Do you think they can't afford the liters of fuel, or their reasons are different?

They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
When you travel with private jets, fuel is not the only expense. The club will have to pay the pilots, airport bill, maintenance and other expenses. Maybe the owner of the club thinks they can cut costs by pleading with Manchester City to give these players a lift.

Manchester United is too big for this, they can afford this cost. I have seen clubs send private jets to transport a single player to a location and also bring him back. Sir Jim Ratcliffe and his associates are taking this cost-cutting process too far. They recently terminated Sir Alex Furgeson's ambassadorial contract and this move got so much backlash from most fans. Instead of pleading with City, they can get a first-class ticket for these players on a commercial airline.  
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