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According to the news i have read Manchester United has send their representatives for Ballon d'Or ceremory and they are Alejandro Garnacho and Kobbie Mainoo and because their representatives is only two players then Manchester United thought they can joining the flight with Manchester City and one of the main reason why Manchester United did this because they feel send 2 players using private jet to the Ballon d'Or event is wasting money but unfortunately the flight is full and Manchester City don't have extra seat for these players but indeed after Sir Jim Ratcliffe and INEOS Group in charge they did cost savings policy in Manchester United but considering they are rich team i think this is embarrassing
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I saw this post from a famous football influencer on X, I know most of us know him and his information is legit.

Manchester United has failed to provide the necessary fuel involved to transport their player on a 1hr trip to Paris for the Ballon Dor ceremony. Do you think they can't afford the liters of fuel, or their reasons are different?

They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
Manchester United most definitely has gone pass that level when we could say money for aviation fuel or to sponsor the trip was the issue, it could be there are some reasons behind this which isn't made known to the media just yet and I wouldn't be making a guess on that because I don't think I will guess right even but then the finance obviously isn't the issue. But it's very embarrassing for such to happen, and recently there have been some news about certain rifts around the team and these particular players so there's definitely more to this than we are knowing already.
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I saw this post from a famous football influencer on X, I know most of us know him and his information is legit.

Manchester United has failed to provide the necessary fuel involved to transport their player on a 1hr trip to Paris for the Ballon Dor ceremony. Do you think they can't afford the liters of fuel, or their reasons are different?

They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
I think the management of Manchester United don't prioritize the event that's all. To them it's not worth it that's why you are seeing this sort of thing happening. And it is very shameful for Manchester United to act this way. This shows that the Manchester United as a club don't have any plans of sending delegation to the event. It shows lack of support for their own players. These are moments to encourage their players to work harder but they are making it look like they don't care about the ceremony. United have the money but they don't just care. How do they expect their player to be comfortable inside Manchester City plane?
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I don't think this has anything to do with money, in my opinion. Probably there is something else going on behind the curtains and which involves those specific football players going to Paris.
I don't know what goes through the mind of the financial manager and the PR manager of such an important football club when they deny such a basic thing like transportation and allows the public to know about such a decision, it only makes fans to assume the club is going through some insolvency or other economical problems.
Imagine the scandal this would be in LatinAmerica or Spain if it was discovered the Barcelona or Real Madrid club were called out for not paying for some players transportation. Very disappointing.
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I just feel the management does not want to take the event serious, and also not happy with the present state of the club. This might be why they decided to ask Manchester City for help to covey these two players to Paris.

I also believe the with the expenses made recently on buying players and no good results yet, might also be another reason why the management chose to cut down expensed, because it is like they are throwing money away. When the club is winning, more money would be made, because fans will always buy new jersey and come to the stadium to watch their favorite player.
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I don't think it has anything to do with the club going bankrupt, it's just Ratcliffe being too tight on budget and not wanting to spend more money on a private jet for Garnacho and Kobbie, but it's just funny to request something like that from your own rivals, why wouldn't they just take a normal flight with VIP class for those two players? why would they just ask their own rivals for that knowing they're not close enough to make a request like that - I don't think even if Man.City had a few empty seats they wouldn't give them to Man.U - it's just funny.
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This club is going through tough times currently but I don't think that they are bankrupt,  it's going to take a lot of downfalls to make a club like Manchester united hit rock bottom. It's possible that they had other reasons for doing that, saying that they couldn't afford aviation fuel sounds kind of awkward. Manchester united is a big club but they are not inform at the moment and this has caused a lot of setbacks for them. We all hope things get better soon with the team soon, and we hope they don't go bankrupt.
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They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
I really thought this was a joke until I started seeing it from different news websites. It is a huge embarrassment to Manchester United trying to shift their responsibility to their rivals to carry. If Manchester United want their players in the Ballon ceremony, they should be able to sort the arrangement to have them there. Manchester City did well refusing because this kind of favors are often required again if you oblige with the first, that is if they had agreed, Manchester United will most certainly ask again next time.
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They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.

Ratcliffe's have done many things in the recent past as cost-cutting measures and probably they didn't want to pay for a private jet just for two players but it's some insane level to take the cost-cutting. Roll Eyes

Many sources reported that the incident is true.

For a private jet it might be too expensive but there are other planes available, if they both take a commercial plane I don't think it will reduce the credibility of a club, if it is indeed a savings, but if they fail to go it means being stingy and not wanting to lose out
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If the club can covers for it player's expenses so be it, it means the ceremony is not important to Manchester United, I doubt the authecity of this news any ways since this thread doesn't include any link to verifiable source so for that we can only discuss and speculate the whole scenerio and conclude that the club should man up and not pass on responsibility to an opposition..


What Manchester city did is very right in my own opinion and views, because there is no point traveling with an empty seats when you have a whole team members that deserve to be at that ceremony ground.
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It's known that from the time Ratcliffe bought the team, the cuts at all levels would be big. So it sounds reasonable to me that the team should not pay for a private jet just for 2 players who have to attend an event, not a match. Moreover, this cut strategy was also seen with the dismissal of Sir Alex Ferguson, but also in the fact that Ten Hag was not dismissed, and he still remains the club's manager.
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They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.

Ratcliffe's have done many things in the recent past as cost-cutting measures and probably they didn't want to pay for a private jet just for two players but it's some insane level to take the cost-cutting. Roll Eyes

Many sources reported that the incident is true.
Well, then the management could have simply bought the players tickets for a regular flight (that would have made their fans happy Smiley) instead of a private jet and they wouldn't even have to ask Manchester City to take these footballers on the flight with them. Smiley

Overall, this story doesn't paint Manchester United in the best light, revealing the problems of cost optimization. Saving is good, of course, but isn't it humiliating to ask another team to let their players down? Also, the media found out about it and now we are discussing what is happening (without praising MU for such a step) and I am sure that many don't understand this position of one of the richest teams in the EPL.
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I don't see a scenario where the City delegates agree for United players to travel on the same plane as them considering the rivalry between both clubs, so I would not understand what motivated the United camp to make sch a request. It only fuels more trolling for them as a club and doesn't solve their immediate problem of how to get their nominated players to the ceremony.

I don't think this is extreme as bankruptcy. Someone on the red side of Manchester likely thought it will be a good idea and show there's no bad blood between the club management despite the obvious long term rivalry.
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I saw this post from a famous football influencer on X, I know most of us know him and his information is legit.

Manchester United has failed to provide the necessary fuel involved to transport their player on a 1hr trip to Paris for the Ballon Dor ceremony. Do you think they can't afford the liters of fuel, or their reasons are different?

They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
You've already said the answer, they are known to be the richest club in the EPL. It's obvious they are kinda drawing their line in the sand so to speak.



I saw this post from a famous football influencer on X, I know most of us know him and his information is legit.

Manchester United has failed to provide the necessary fuel involved to transport their player on a 1hr trip to Paris for the Ballon Dor ceremony. Do you think they can't afford the liters of fuel, or their reasons are different?

They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
This is a bad signal that all is not well with Manchester United. My guess is that there is a growing apathy to United following their poor performance this season and the refusal of the management to make serious changes to the team. Their support might have been reducing and this might be affecting their revenue in ways that we might not see. It is not complete insolvency or bankruptcy but might just be a case of reduced revenue that have made them try to cut cost. Whatever is the reason, it does not send a good signal for a big team like Manchester United.
I seriously doubt 1 poor season or even 2 would bankrupt a club. Likely the owner fed up and making changes or something.
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It surely isn't anything you mentioned, it's just their decision to not cooperate with them? I guess. As we could never get to know the real reason, all we can do is speculate but it's no where near the terms which you mentioned like Bankruptcy or Insolvency. Most likely trying to cut out some expenditures, nothing more than that, but in the end, we can only imagine.
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I saw this post from a famous football influencer on X, I know most of us know him and his information is legit.

Manchester United has failed to provide the necessary fuel involved to transport their player on a 1hr trip to Paris for the Ballon Dor ceremony. Do you think they can't afford the liters of fuel, or their reasons are different?

They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
This is a bad signal that all is not well with Manchester United. My guess is that there is a growing apathy to United following their poor performance this season and the refusal of the management to make serious changes to the team. Their support might have been reducing and this might be affecting their revenue in ways that we might not see. It is not complete insolvency or bankruptcy but might just be a case of reduced revenue that have made them try to cut cost. Whatever is the reason, it does not send a good signal for a big team like Manchester United.
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They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.

Ratcliffe's have done many things in the recent past as cost-cutting measures and probably they didn't want to pay for a private jet just for two players but it's some insane level to take the cost-cutting. Roll Eyes

Many sources reported that the incident is true.
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I saw this post from a famous football influencer on X, I know most of us know him and his information is legit.

Manchester United has failed to provide the necessary fuel involved to transport their player on a 1hr trip to Paris for the Ballon Dor ceremony. Do you think they can't afford the liters of fuel, or their reasons are different?

They are known to be the richest club in the EPL, so I don't know why they are pleading for Manchester City to support them by accommodating their players in the flight.
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