Topic: is this dice game site cheating ? (Read 2553 times)
PD will not cheat you for satoshi's this is for sure
It's not cheating no, although it may seem like it. It's just your luck.
'Provably fair' is a misnomer. Yet peddlers of the concept abound on this forum and sit around & circle jerk one another claiming it guarantees fairness. It does nothing of the sort. The main 'weakness' in the concept is in the fact that it relies on the honesty of the casino operator.
But your right Spy100, your wasting your time trying to argue your case here; there are just too many individuals here with vested interests in the concept that stand to make money from you and others who fall for their claim.
You can read more on the problem with 'provable fairness' here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/problem-with-off-chain-provably-fair-games-311404
But your right Spy100, your wasting your time trying to argue your case here; there are just too many individuals here with vested interests in the concept that stand to make money from you and others who fall for their claim.
You can read more on the problem with 'provable fairness' here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/problem-with-off-chain-provably-fair-games-311404
I think almost all gambling dice game is always a fraud even though it's written there fair bulshit !!
I win every major, and eventually would have lost again lost again and the red is almost always strike 50 and I do not believe it is not fair what
I win every major, and eventually would have lost again lost again and the red is almost always strike 50 and I do not believe it is not fair what
Well, why don't you try verifying bets instead of baselessly claiming that they are unfair? You should always get out while the going's good.
problem is that most people don't know how to verify
Honestly I've always felt PD2 was a little rigged. Anyone else feel the same? I know it's not just me.
I think almost all gambling dice game is always a fraud even though it's written there fair bulshit !!
I win every major, and eventually would have lost again lost again and the red is almost always strike 50 and I do not believe it is not fair what
I win every major, and eventually would have lost again lost again and the red is almost always strike 50 and I do not believe it is not fair what
Well, why don't you try verifying bets instead of baselessly claiming that they are unfair? You should always get out while the going's good.
I think almost all gambling dice game is always a fraud even though it's written there fair bulshit !!
I win every major, and eventually would have lost again lost again and the red is almost always strike 50 and I do not believe it is not fair what
I win every major, and eventually would have lost again lost again and the red is almost always strike 50 and I do not believe it is not fair what
its provable fair ..
but wont work with me ..
last time i bet about 0.05 on 90 percent smalelr then 5 and got 3 role damn ..
and next bet i bet 0.1 and got 2 lol ? is it provable fair?
but wont work with me ..
last time i bet about 0.05 on 90 percent smalelr then 5 and got 3 role damn ..
and next bet i bet 0.1 and got 2 lol ? is it provable fair?
You can check the seed and hashes and you can check that the bet was fair for yourself. A guide is included in the "Provably Fair" section.
its provable fair ..
but wont work with me ..
last time i bet about 0.05 on 90 percent smalelr then 5 and got 3 role damn ..
and next bet i bet 0.1 and got 2 lol ? is it provable fair?
but wont work with me ..
last time i bet about 0.05 on 90 percent smalelr then 5 and got 3 role damn ..
and next bet i bet 0.1 and got 2 lol ? is it provable fair?
No. That's PrimeDice, and it's provably fair, you can verify its fairness by following the "Provably Fair" guide.
then how come each time you bet big you lose ?
a random game should never have a patter1. You're winning before you put on a big bet, which is just silly.
2. You're using incredibly high odds and betting straight after one or two losses, I've encountered up to 8 losses on 1.5x consecutively
3. You probably haven't diced before so you think these results are drastic when really they're hardly anything but this.
I've been on pd for over a year, and I can say right now that placing such random bets with no losses before is a newbie move. You lose once or twice on 1.2x before you go all in, not 1.5x....
Tip for the future also, I never bet 1.5x and if I do it's after I see 5+ under 30's in a row, I recommend you follow this tip to avoid future losses.
Is this called pre-rolling? I've heard of a lot of people trying that technique. It seems like it would work, have you tried it with success? Sometimes I do a bunch of rolls and let some really odd results happen, like two roll sin a row under 5, and then I guess it will be a higher number after those 2 rolls.
No. That's PrimeDice, and it's provably fair, you can verify its fairness by following the "Provably Fair" guide.
then how come each time you bet big you lose ?
a random game should never have a patter1. You're winning before you put on a big bet, which is just silly.
2. You're using incredibly high odds and betting straight after one or two losses, I've encountered up to 8 losses on 1.5x consecutively
3. You probably haven't diced before so you think these results are drastic when really they're hardly anything but this.
I've been on pd for over a year, and I can say right now that placing such random bets with no losses before is a newbie move. You lose once or twice on 1.2x before you go all in, not 1.5x....
Tip for the future also, I never bet 1.5x and if I do it's after I see 5+ under 30's in a row, I recommend you follow this tip to avoid future losses.
Is this called pre-rolling? I've heard of a lot of people trying that technique. It seems like it would work, have you tried it with success? Sometimes I do a bunch of rolls and let some really odd results happen, like two roll sin a row under 5, and then I guess it will be a higher number after those 2 rolls.
then how come each time you bet big you lose ? a random game should never have a patter
a random game should never have a patterI'm sorry you lost, at least it was just faucet money.
When you bet "big" you "always" lose because you kept playing until you lost. By definition if you keep playing a game with a house edge you will lose. That's what you've shown.
PD3 may have an issue, it's possible though I doubt it, but what you did doesn't make the case for it.
Good Luck!
I just wanted to show you my last 30 bets:
Fair? Definitely. I all in'd on a NUMBER of occasions didn't seem to be any "rigged losses" at all
Fair? Definitely. I all in'd on a NUMBER of occasions didn't seem to be any "rigged losses" at all
don't know how it is on your side but each time i went all in i lost ,i am tired playing their game ...to each his own ,that's my opinion and nobody can change it
So today i was bored ,and played at a dice website using their faucet...
And i noticed a pattern each time you bet big, you lose check out the screenshots :
round 1
round 2
round 3
I used 66% win chance at a payout of 1.5x
The odds of that pattern happening 3 times in a row are astronomical ...this is why i never use my own money on does dice games ...
And i noticed a pattern each time you bet big, you lose check out the screenshots :
round 1
round 2
round 3
I used 66% win chance at a payout of 1.5x
The odds of that pattern happening 3 times in a row are astronomical ...this is why i never use my own money on does dice games ...
Um ? Each time u bet "big" ? Where did u bet big ? I don't see any big bets there
. Joking aside , u rly think pd would rig ur couple of satoshi faucet bets , and let muchlove or something take 163 btc
Or zsmo win 69 btc with 1btc deposit ?
And even if u think so, its impossible for site to rig ur rolls using this new provably fair system.
They can't called cheating, but there reason why user lose often :
1. if you often use same trick to gambling, they use server seed to make the bad number (for user). You need often change client seed to prevent this.
2. they have some apps to keep user lose (even with provably fair), but this case is rare happened
3. provably fair is totally random number, so there are chance to keep lose with high chance to win
4. you don't have luck
i lost on 999dice.com with 49.95% chance to win. 20x continous. but i only use free BTC, so i'm fine with that
if you don't want lose your money, don't gamble
1. if you often use same trick to gambling, they use server seed to make the bad number (for user). You need often change client seed to prevent this.
2. they have some apps to keep user lose (even with provably fair), but this case is rare happened
3. provably fair is totally random number, so there are chance to keep lose with high chance to win
4. you don't have luck
i lost on 999dice.com with 49.95% chance to win. 20x continous. but i only use free BTC, so i'm fine with that
if you don't want lose your money, don't gamble
Okay Okay Okay. First, do you understand what "provably fair" means?
Second, there is something called "luck", aka "variance". If you flip a coin, does it always land on tails, then head, then tails, then head? No. Stuff is theoretically correct but not practically.
Also, If they show us the code, people will just rip it off and sell it like on PD2.
Third. Go to your stats and screenshot your Luck.
Second, there is something called "luck", aka "variance". If you flip a coin, does it always land on tails, then head, then tails, then head? No. Stuff is theoretically correct but not practically.
Also, If they show us the code, people will just rip it off and sell it like on PD2.
Third. Go to your stats and screenshot your Luck.
look another miracle
everybody do what you want ... i am tired of trying to explain ...i got better things to do
That in no way responds to any of my questions at all. All you are showing is stupidity and ignorance.
PrimeDice3 is literally in open beta, and there any many issues and bugs. How is it going down a miracle?
Okay Okay Okay. First, do you understand what "provably fair" means?
Second, there is something called "luck", aka "variance". If you flip a coin, does it always land on tails, then head, then tails, then head? No. Stuff is theoretically correct but not practically.
Also, If they show us the code, people will just rip it off and sell it like on PD2.
Third. Go to your stats and screenshot your Luck.
Second, there is something called "luck", aka "variance". If you flip a coin, does it always land on tails, then head, then tails, then head? No. Stuff is theoretically correct but not practically.
Also, If they show us the code, people will just rip it off and sell it like on PD2.
Third. Go to your stats and screenshot your Luck.
look another miracle
everybody do what you want ... i am tired of trying to explain ...i got better things to do
Who likes being scammed? I don't, i tell you.
If you even attempted to try and learn what 'provably fair' means, you would understand. Also, I get paid per post, so i don't make money by bringing people in. Even if no one clicks the link, i still get paid.
You know, you're the kid here. You're not even trying to listen to reason, we are all proving to you that it is fair, but you are being arrogant and you are insisting that you are right.
If you made enough bets, you would find that your Luck is 100%. Making less than a 100 or 1000 or bets is meaningless.
If you even attempted to try and learn what 'provably fair' means, you would understand. Also, I get paid per post, so i don't make money by bringing people in. Even if no one clicks the link, i still get paid.
You know, you're the kid here. You're not even trying to listen to reason, we are all proving to you that it is fair, but you are being arrogant and you are insisting that you are right.
If you made enough bets, you would find that your Luck is 100%. Making less than a 100 or 1000 or bets is meaningless.
In real life this stuff will never happen if your odds are 1/2 or if you have better odds you should win more...i have better things to do then try to explain that patterns should not exist in random things,or when the odds are in your favor you should have more wins then loses ,it's simple math ...why don't they show us what is going on in the admin panel if they are so fair ...or show us the php part of the coding ... i remember i used to design those head and tails games for e-gold and you had a option to select the real chance of a visitor winning a bet ,i could easy change the chance to 0.000001 without visitor even knowing this,and my guess is this stuff happens here also.
Okay Okay Okay. First, do you understand what "provably fair" means?
Second, there is something called "luck", aka "variance". If you flip a coin, does it always land on tails, then head, then tails, then head? No. Stuff is theoretically correct but not practically.
Also, If they show us the code, people will just rip it off and sell it like on PD2.
Third. Go to your stats and screenshot your Luck.
Who likes being scammed? I don't, i tell you.
If you even attempted to try and learn what 'provably fair' means, you would understand. Also, I get paid per post, so i don't make money by bringing people in. Even if no one clicks the link, i still get paid.
You know, you're the kid here. You're not even trying to listen to reason, we are all proving to you that it is fair, but you are being arrogant and you are insisting that you are right.
If you made enough bets, you would find that your Luck is 100%. Making less than a 100 or 1000 or bets is meaningless.
If you even attempted to try and learn what 'provably fair' means, you would understand. Also, I get paid per post, so i don't make money by bringing people in. Even if no one clicks the link, i still get paid.
You know, you're the kid here. You're not even trying to listen to reason, we are all proving to you that it is fair, but you are being arrogant and you are insisting that you are right.
If you made enough bets, you would find that your Luck is 100%. Making less than a 100 or 1000 or bets is meaningless.
In real life this stuff will never happen if your odds are 1/2 or if you have better odds you should win more...i have better things to do then try to explain that patterns should not exist in random things,or when the odds are in your favor you should have more wins then loses ,it's simple math ...why don't they show us what is going on in the admin panel if they are so fair ...or show us the php part of the coding ... i remember i used to design those head and tails games for e-gold and you had a option to select the real chance of a visitor winning a bet ,i could easy change the chance to 0.000001 without visitor even knowing this,and my guess is this stuff happens here also.
3. Why do you care...? You don't seem to realize that you're the one wrong here. Have you found 1 person that supports your ridiculous statements? No? Face reality, please.
Well when you have the site as your signature and make money by bringing more suckers to bet ,you are going to fight for what you "belive" in ...
I have nothing to gain from that site or by asking the questions if they are cheating...i just don't like scammers and don't like people to get scammed that's it.
Who likes being scammed? I don't, i tell you.
If you even attempted to try and learn what 'provably fair' means, you would understand. Also, I get paid per post, so i don't make money by bringing people in. Even if no one clicks the link, i still get paid.
You know, you're the kid here. You're not even trying to listen to reason, we are all proving to you that it is fair, but you are being arrogant and you are insisting that you are right.
If you made enough bets, you would find that your Luck is 100%. Making less than a 100 or 1000 or bets is meaningless.
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