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hero member
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December 26, 2016, 10:44:30 AM
#87
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.

to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable.

all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning.

It worked in the past with real world scams and pyramid schemes because they required a lot of effort and initial investment to start up the whole business. That's the reason why first "investors" could actually earn something through them, else the operators would be at a loss if they ran away with their money without delay. Today you don't need a lot of investment, and you can close the business in a matter of a few days, after receiving some money.


It really happens before but now ,in new generation people were more smarter we think most of the time if its scam or not because it is the trend the story of getting scam. Now we learned already our lesson to research before doing. In this way we can avoid getting scam. And be profitable in investing.
hero member
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December 26, 2016, 10:38:23 AM
#86
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.

to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable.

all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning.

It worked in the past with real world scams and pyramid schemes because they required a lot of effort and initial investment to start up the whole business. That's the reason why first "investors" could actually earn something through them, else the operators would be at a loss if they ran away with their money without delay. Today you don't need a lot of investment, and you can close the business in a matter of a few days, after receiving some money.
legendary
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Where is my ring of blades...
December 26, 2016, 03:20:31 AM
#85
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.

to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable.

all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning.
hero member
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BTC to the MOON in 2019
December 26, 2016, 02:40:31 AM
#84
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.
hero member
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December 26, 2016, 01:02:45 AM
#83
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?


Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
hero member
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December 25, 2016, 11:29:14 PM
#82
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers  are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.
We can't really please everyone, especially for those greedy in money, who are not contented in what they have.
Before I joined bitcoin I once a victim of scam also and thinking that bitcoin is just scam but proven that there are just sites who are just offering big money. Lesson learned for me. Hope everyone to be vigilant always think twice before joining and research well.

Even if we do our research, even the high trust rating will scam or disappear sooner or later. I just remembered hashocean and minutebtc they gain high trust ratings and stay for a year before they scam people collecting millions if money. I also tried the safest investment sites according to some reviews but the income is very poor and you cannot take back your capital. The only thing to earn today is just to hold your bitcoins and wait for an inflation.
Great. That is what in my mind also I don't go to investment sites but rather do trading even in small amount, and I'll take a hold in my bitcoin from now on and wait for its value for the next two years before I withdraw it.
I don't trust any investment sites for now, I have already trauma with them, I am happy with my earnings now.
hero member
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December 25, 2016, 11:23:56 PM
#81
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers  are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.
We can't really please everyone, especially for those greedy in money, who are not contented in what they have.
Before I joined bitcoin I once a victim of scam also and thinking that bitcoin is just scam but proven that there are just sites who are just offering big money. Lesson learned for me. Hope everyone to be vigilant always think twice before joining and research well.

Even if we do our research, even the high trust rating will scam or disappear sooner or later. I just remembered hashocean and minutebtc they gain high trust ratings and stay for a year before they scam people collecting millions if money. I also tried the safest investment sites according to some reviews but the income is very poor and you cannot take back your capital. The only thing to earn today is just to hold your bitcoins and wait for an inflation.
hero member
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December 25, 2016, 10:22:21 PM
#80
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

It's true and happened everywhere. Just carefull with this kind of sites
hero member
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December 25, 2016, 09:50:30 PM
#79
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers  are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.
We can't really please everyone, especially for those greedy in money, who are not contented in what they have.
Before I joined bitcoin I once a victim of scam also and thinking that bitcoin is just scam but proven that there are just sites who are just offering big money. Lesson learned for me. Hope everyone to be vigilant always think twice before joining and research well.
hero member
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December 25, 2016, 09:29:02 PM
#78
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers  are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.
legendary
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December 25, 2016, 08:19:50 PM
#77
this happens all the time in bitcoin world..
all these websites claim to pay interest every day are ponzi schemes. Most cloud mining services are ponzi schemes. People need to understand there's no "free money".

if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
It's happening but with a little percentage and not all of the kind of bitcoin site(mostly HYIP and CM). And a lot of the reliable site news at the past time turned into the shady caused by that reason.
hero member
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December 25, 2016, 07:50:57 PM
#76
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

there are many sites like this.. its called bait and switch.
offer you one thing. but end up with something else

I also heard that everybody have to be very careful with using that kind of sites that ask for private information. On the net it happens almost every day, one day the site works and everything is ok, but another it's not exist anymore and you are in panic.

The sites which are giving you all types of false commitments of high income are the sites which are going like this and even when their are lot of thread alarming about this type of scam their are users who are getting scammed by this type of hyip schemes in greedy of getting high returns and end up in loss. So it is natural in all types of ways the scammer are operating
sr. member
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December 25, 2016, 07:45:59 PM
#75
Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

there are many sites like this.. its called bait and switch.
offer you one thing. but end up with something else

I also heard that everybody have to be very careful with using that kind of sites that ask for private information. On the net it happens almost every day, one day the site works and everything is ok, but another it's not exist anymore and you are in panic.
sr. member
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December 25, 2016, 07:15:04 PM
#74
Of course where there is money there is greed and there is scam, scamming especially in bitcoin is very easy I myself had a problem with this , a while ago I have tried to invest some of my btc into some cloud mining everything seemed fine the site was legit at first people were joining in and investing as well until one day the owner disappeared with huge amount of money , you probably know the site it was called Hash Ocean.
that is very bad, in fact we have a lot of such problems, and these must be solve if we want to have good future of bitcoin, as once people become scam then the never like to invest again a big amount even in a trusted site, therefore we need to overcome these weakness in priority basis.
full member
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December 25, 2016, 06:19:55 PM
#73
this happens all the time in bitcoin world..
all these websites claim to pay interest every day are ponzi schemes. Most cloud mining services are ponzi schemes. People need to understand there's no "free money".

if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
hero member
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December 25, 2016, 04:16:57 PM
#72
Of course where there is money there is greed and there is scam, scamming especially in bitcoin is very easy I myself had a problem with this , a while ago I have tried to invest some of my btc into some cloud mining everything seemed fine the site was legit at first people were joining in and investing as well until one day the owner disappeared with huge amount of money , you probably know the site it was called Hash Ocean.

You are right bitcoin is especialy convenient for different kind of scams because scammers are often very  hard to trace and identify. Cloud mining sites could be especialy dangerous I can't remember any of them that is legit and where people haven't lost their money.
At this point, almost all users familiar to crypto are aware that most cloud mining websites are scams, the problem is that users who are new to crypto don't have that knowledge. It is important that there are solutions to educate these people, so that they do not have bad experiences with Bitcoin, and they also don't transmit negative news out there.
sr. member
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December 25, 2016, 03:49:13 PM
#71
I've just read the first page of the thread. So are there no legit casinos out there? The only one I've played was bitvest.io (first time I heard of .io). I don't bits then but managed to play using their tokens. Only stopped when i realized I'd need to accumulate 200,000 tokens to convert it to satoshis to cash out. Cheesy It was fun though.
hero member
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December 25, 2016, 03:38:54 PM
#70
Of course where there is money there is greed and there is scam, scamming especially in bitcoin is very easy I myself had a problem with this , a while ago I have tried to invest some of my btc into some cloud mining everything seemed fine the site was legit at first people were joining in and investing as well until one day the owner disappeared with huge amount of money , you probably know the site it was called Hash Ocean.

You are right bitcoin is especialy convenient for different kind of scams because scammers are often very  hard to trace and identify. Cloud mining sites could be especialy dangerous I can't remember any of them that is legit and where people haven't lost their money.
legendary
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December 25, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
#69
Of course where there is money there is greed and there is scam, scamming especially in bitcoin is very easy I myself had a problem with this , a while ago I have tried to invest some of my btc into some cloud mining everything seemed fine the site was legit at first people were joining in and investing as well until one day the owner disappeared with huge amount of money , you probably know the site it was called Hash Ocean.
legendary
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December 25, 2016, 05:05:09 AM
#68
That really happen often. Its up to you if you choose to trust them or not. Hyip  sites is prone to scamming since its very easy to create a new one. Once they get the funds that you give to them. They will gone together with your money and they start a new one. They will do this over and over. Until theres a lot of idiot there who trust them. Scamming incidents will never stop.

Just be wise, scan everything before trusting them, read some feedbacks regarding the sites and make some public conversation like some site doing in this forum..

As a sensible person you would definitely find or do some research regarding to a website if its legit or not.Doing scan is really an advisable thing to do. Scammer are everywhere and HYIP is one of the examples of it and other Ponzi sites. This is reality and we should really be careful on our bitcoins.
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