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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 06:43:47 AM

Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

It's true and many users had scammed, this is one problem in bitcoin trust and security.
We have to do some research before join in such sites, who's the devs team (man behind the project).
Easier if they have good reputation, if they haven't then be cautious to deposit so much, just a little bit that you could afford to lose it is safer.

A trustworthy company is not immune from scam, it is pure market speculation. There should be a system of escrow or breakthrough that oversees it. As long as there is no punishment, these companies will just change the name and office with almost the same system.

For now we can only predict the return on investment, if successful, we were lucky.

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Quote from: deadsilent on December 20, 2016, 07:51:46 AM

That really happen often. Its up to you if you choose to trust them or not. Hyip sites is prone to scamming since its very easy to create a new one. Once they get the funds that you give to them. They will gone together with your money and they start a new one. They will do this over and over. Until theres a lot of idiot there who trust them. Scamming incidents will never stop.

Just be wise, scan everything before trusting them, read some feedbacks regarding the sites and make some public conversation like some site doing in this forum..

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 06:43:47 AM

Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

I remembered what happened at mining sites (HYIP) HashProfit (HP) when people invest there *lol* hashprofit closed and finally scam, and now renamed .... Cheesy

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 06:43:47 AM

Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

It's true and many users had scammed, this is one problem in bitcoin trust and security.
We have to do some research before join in such sites, who's the devs team (man behind the project).
Easier if they have good reputation, if they haven't then be cautious to deposit so much, just a little bit that you could afford to lose it is safer.

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I've a lot rumors about this too on a gambling site from where i play. Most of them are owner of sites and High Roller gambler. But from what I've heard they rather make investment sites than a casino site since it easier to do and less expensive. Still there's a lot of people being scam by these site especially newbies.

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Quote from: deadsilent on December 20, 2016, 07:51:46 AM

That really happen often. Its up to you if you choose to trust them or not. Hyip sites is prone to scamming since its very easy to create a new one. Once they get the funds that you give to them. They will gone together with your money and they start a new one. They will do this over and over. Until theres a lot of idiot there who trust them. Scamming incidents will never stop.

Yes, this is right, it is your choice, scamming is hard to figure out specially when you were hooked with their offers. Need to keep your
eyes and mind open so that Scam dont hit you.

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There are many websites like these. A thief won't stop after its first crime, they need more and more money every time so they go for bigger scams. I doubt these guys even get their site "hacked", it's just another reason to run away with the money with this excuse. After they close one website, they open a better looking one to attract more people and they go on with the scams. Never keep your funds in any website.

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Bitcoin is kinda anonymous, more than likely it happens, and we may have very trusted members doing this, and we might never know.

But to accuse evidence is needed, what can be hard to get sometimes

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 20, 2016, 11:01:47 PM

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 20, 2016, 11:39:11 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on December 20, 2016, 11:30:51 AM

Ya some lessons are learnt hard. I have totally avoided hyip, though earlier I used to invest a lot and loose a lot. But finally have decided to give up on hyip. I do yet gamble on dice sites but that also I am reducing now cause of the looses. It's a pain this scammers they cheat us of our hard earned money and then come back hate them.

There will be no scammer if there's no people will eat the bait.

What is the problem here? Not because people especially the new one didn't know a certain is a scam one but some people are lazy to do work. They want to earned fast money in a passive way. That kind of traits are easily get being attracted by those hyip sites and will turned those sites into a legit one in a lazy person's mind.

Common sense sometimes must be used regularly. Also worked to earned not to sit to earned.

Definitely true. When the mind is empty and the person is lazy then they won't be trying to work actively. They will always try for passive income and scammers bait for those guys. And yes the people need to understand and verify which is honest and which is a scam. Then only the percentage of scamming will get low.

True 100% true, when I was new in this online money making online, all I wanted was to make a quick bucks and I actually believed I could. The way they showed it, I mean the way they baited me. I never really researched just went on loosing, till I finally realized had to read more and then understood the scams. Now I am able to spot a scam and warn people, though next time I will quote your words, bang on point.

I got scammed myself because I was looking to make money online and those sites promise you that you will double or make a decent profit. What I learned the hard way is you need to do your due diligence before investing on any sites, look for reviews and find the legitimate one.

Even in the bitcoin world, the scammers are here with their online cloud mining Sad

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 06:43:47 AM

Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

Many websites are like you said on bitcoin too, and they have gone with bitcoins their users.
Usually HYIP's website and the mostly fake cloud mining service without really mining.
It has been happening on bitcoin industry too, and it had made bad impact on bitcoin.

Because of the scam using bitcoins had made the people doesn't believe in bitcoins for the people who don't too understand about bitcoins.
And it maded bitcoin becoming victim be blamed because of scam using bitcoins.

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Quote from: iram3130 on December 20, 2016, 12:10:00 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on December 20, 2016, 11:39:11 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on December 20, 2016, 11:30:51 AM

Ya some lessons are learnt hard. I have totally avoided hyip, though earlier I used to invest a lot and loose a lot. But finally have decided to give up on hyip. I do yet gamble on dice sites but that also I am reducing now cause of the looses. It's a pain this scammers they cheat us of our hard earned money and then come back hate them.

There will be no scammer if there's no people will eat the bait.

What is the problem here? Not because people especially the new one didn't know a certain is a scam one but some people are lazy to do work. They want to earned fast money in a passive way. That kind of traits are easily get being attracted by those hyip sites and will turned those sites into a legit one in a lazy person's mind.

Common sense sometimes must be used regularly. Also worked to earned not to sit to earned.

Definitely true. When the mind is empty and the person is lazy then they won't be trying to work actively. They will always try for passive income and scammers bait for those guys. And yes the people need to understand and verify which is honest and which is a scam. Then only the percentage of scamming will get low.

True 100% true, when I was new in this online money making online, all I wanted was to make a quick bucks and I actually believed I could. The way they showed it, I mean the way they baited me. I never really researched just went on loosing, till I finally realized had to read more and then understood the scams. Now I am able to spot a scam and warn people, though next time I will quote your words, bang on point.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 20, 2016, 11:39:11 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on December 20, 2016, 11:30:51 AM

Ya some lessons are learnt hard. I have totally avoided hyip, though earlier I used to invest a lot and loose a lot. But finally have decided to give up on hyip. I do yet gamble on dice sites but that also I am reducing now cause of the looses. It's a pain this scammers they cheat us of our hard earned money and then come back hate them.

There will be no scammer if there's no people will eat the bait.

What is the problem here? Not because people especially the new one didn't know a certain is a scam one but some people are lazy to do work. They want to earned fast money in a passive way. That kind of traits are easily get being attracted by those hyip sites and will turned those sites into a legit one in a lazy person's mind.

Common sense sometimes must be used regularly. Also worked to earned not to sit to earned.

Definitely true. When the mind is empty and the person is lazy then they won't be trying to work actively. They will always try for passive income and scammers bait for those guys. And yes the people need to understand and verify which is honest and which is a scam. Then only the percentage of scamming will get low.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 20, 2016, 11:30:51 AM

Ya some lessons are learnt hard. I have totally avoided hyip, though earlier I used to invest a lot and loose a lot. But finally have decided to give up on hyip. I do yet gamble on dice sites but that also I am reducing now cause of the looses. It's a pain this scammers they cheat us of our hard earned money and then come back hate them.

There will be no scammer if there's no people will eat the bait.

What is the problem here? Not because people especially the new one didn't know a certain is a scam one but some people are lazy to do work. They want to earned fast money in a passive way. That kind of traits are easily get being attracted by those hyip sites and will turned those sites into a legit one in a lazy person's mind.

Common sense sometimes must be used regularly. Also worked to earned not to sit to earned.

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Quote from: ~Bitcoin~ on October 30, 2016, 10:26:08 AM

Yes there are many sites which had same owner and scammed same users several times in different projects. You can see this type of pattern mostly in HYIP and PTC sites, they lure paying for few days and at end they will scam all users and run away with whatever they have collected. Wait few month and develop another ptc/hyip with some modification in project model and again start to lure and this cycle go round and round.

The scam sites always seems quite different but behind the project it's all the same, frauds.
Learn the pattern, they cover up with sweet promises and easy profits every week/month.
Well, it's not so easy to recognize them if the sites has going for a long time, like 6 months or 1 year.
Just be cautious to invest your money everywhere, even on the trusted sites you could lose it all.

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Quote from: nara1892 on December 20, 2016, 10:58:55 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on October 30, 2016, 08:59:34 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 06:43:47 AM

Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

I think that such scenario happen many times, unfortunately.
I'm sure that we have serial scammers which open HYIP after HYIP, SCAM after SCAM, just with different names and identities.
I advice you not to play with HYIP or casinos because 99 % of people loose money there.
Only admins and top leaders earn there.
When program collapse, admin just change his name, open similar program and start over.
I's always the same, scam tactic.

that is true. a few people get profit from scamming the others. so it is not a speculation, it happens. just be careful when you use your money. do not once gamble, trust HYIP or kind of thing because some people lose much than earn. that's why I am never into any gambling sites.

Ya some lessons are learnt hard. I have totally avoided hyip, though earlier I used to invest a lot and loose a lot. But finally have decided to give up on hyip. I do yet gamble on dice sites but that also I am reducing now cause of the looses. It's a pain this scammers they cheat us of our hard earned money and then come back hate them.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 30, 2016, 08:59:34 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 06:43:47 AM

Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

I think that such scenario happen many times, unfortunately.
I'm sure that we have serial scammers which open HYIP after HYIP, SCAM after SCAM, just with different names and identities.
I advice you not to play with HYIP or casinos because 99 % of people loose money there.
Only admins and top leaders earn there.
When program collapse, admin just change his name, open similar program and start over.
I's always the same, scam tactic.

that is true. a few people get profit from scamming the others. so it is not a speculation, it happens. just be careful when you use your money. do not once gamble, trust HYIP or kind of thing because some people lose much than earn. that's why I am never into any gambling sites.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 06:43:47 AM

Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

yes and of course this is happen in the bitcoin industry as we can see the website that offer this services which is known with HYIP but for the deposit and withdraw, that site is using bitcoin and not money/fiat. if you don't be careful, you might have to get scammed by that site, because their slogans is first come, first profit.

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A lot of hyip in internet that has different offers, I never had the chance to try it. I just don't believe it and as doing some research other said that it is just a scam as well as my friend told me too that they were just a good payer during their first year or less and after that they will just say that there system is down and that's it.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 06:43:47 AM

Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

That is just what other people do they will make a site that has put the content over the site then if you visited it and tried it out it end up to be just a fraud, they will just put up some bait that people now a days have been searching for then put up a content that does not really involve the topic you want sometime they are using ads and survey question for their own gain the worst is to required the visitor to put some money or bitcoin so they can download or view the content!

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Quote from: Xester on December 20, 2016, 06:59:15 AM

That is not a speculation but a truth and a trend that is constantly occurring online. They are offering huge returns on investment in such a short time. Most of the victims are the newbies who are inexperienced. I remembered the times back when I fall into the trap of scam sites.

Today they disguise as crowdfunding site, networking, mining and almost any kind of site. So to avoid them make sure to do the research before investing.

I don't see that this is not speculation people want to know when the bitcoin will increase and they predicting it they expecting that bitcoin will be trend and will it be spike and will be constantly occuring the market. I don't really believe this kind of investment site are offering huge return of investment they are trying to fool you out people mostly newbie are the target of investment sites , i should say that just wait for the spike happen then.

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